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Wow, that is terrific that you now "need no one". The big question: Is AI sympathetic with your constant complaining?


Oct 16, 2026 at 05:35 PM
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I now don’t want to buy more gear, I’ll do the best I can and if not happy I’ll upload and ask it for help.

That's a great outcome for you in this instance. There's always the everpresent buy-more-gear problem solver when it rarely does.



Oct 16, 2026 at 05:49 PM
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This is called confirmation bias, and AI LLMs are exceptional at providing it.


Thank you

I’ve actually run out of questions to ask it
I’ve been so wanting these film recipes. I’m now overjoyed and have enough here to keep me going for months if not years. I don’t need a new camera, I can’t upload my pictures here unless I pay the subscription fee.
Any future queries I have I’ll ask AI first… it’s just quicker .
I actually asked a question earlier about Pentax and AI directed me to a Pentax forum where I had asked the question previously

My quest now is to find the “looK” I’m after just with my camera ( no computer editing) and stick with it , maybe upload favourite shots to my phone.. tweak if needed and either save or share with friends

Also intend to create a few more photo books
I guess I’m heading in the direction of being self sufficient, … don’t need others validation.



Oct 16, 2026 at 05:56 PM
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interesting. i was recently in one rabbit hole related to that. are you going to use Picture Style Editor to dial in the settings or via camera ui ?


Sorry, I only just saw your question… my apologies

I’ll be using picture style editor (JPEG)
I never print anything these days
My pictures are all viewed and shared on and via screens. But now I’ve discovered just how incredible this AI is I WILL definitely start creating more photobooks, I will use my own jpeg image straight out of camera , tweak on my phone if necessary then if I need to change something I will see if AI can help, if it’s too contrived - I won’t!!

What I’m particularly excited about is this whole one stop shop inside my camera. I’m heading towards three areas that I crave, so these will become my very own personal picture style. I’m looking for that Stephen Shore look when out and about, I also want to create iPhone black and white silvertone look in camera and finally I want a certain cine style … think of porta 800 but combined with shooting in the blue hour.

If I can get close to those three styles using any of my cameras then I will never need to buy another camera or another lens. Unless mine all suddenly break!!
I can’t quite believe I’m actually finally on lthe very cusp of having those “ custom presets” with me at all time. I have a lot of canon bodies and lenses ranging from the humble 300D to the R50, likewise ranging from the original 5d to my latest purchase the R8. They can all take sharp pictures.. all of them, they all have a certain colour signature how the sensor and processor rendered tones and hues, colour and noise add the potential picture styles to the mix and the possibilities are literally endless.
Of all the cameras I now have it’s the 6D and 60d that just hits the spot for me - no idea why? But they just do. If I can get my 3 user style presets on each of those bodies I will be ecstatic.

I’ve suddenly reignited the embers inside me for photography, the passion I once had is raging once more, hopefully I’ll be in control of exactly how I want each image to look without the need for more gear or post editing via computer, as for more mp’s and raw … I honestly have zero interest… none.

Correction.. I’m craving a RF 40mm f2 pancake….badly!!





Oct 16, 2026 at 11:44 PM
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In my law practice AI has helped me immensely in saving time and research efforts. Let me give you an example. In the theft case I needed to know what the penalty for a first defense petty theft is. Even though I have handled many of them in my 46 year career every time the legislature meets things can change. The theft statute in Florida is huge. Instead I just went to ChatGPT and said what's the penalty for a first offense petty theft and I got it instantly. I also know that it's correct. In addition I have used Chatgpt extensively for settings and questions about my Canon R8. I just wish I knew what companies to invest in because their get me some people that become multi millionaires based upon what company they buy the stock in and others will lose every penny.


Oct 17, 2026 at 09:34 AM
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John Power wrote:
In my law practice AI has helped me immensely in saving time and research efforts. Let me give you an example. In the theft case I needed to know what the penalty for a first defense petty theft is. Even though I have handled many of them in my 46 year career every time the legislature meets things can change. The theft statute in Florida is huge. Instead I just went to ChatGPT and said what's the penalty for a first offense petty theft and I got it instantly. I also know that it's correct. In addition I have
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Funny you mention about investing..
A was talking to work colleague who dragged me back into photography about AI and what I was currently doing, he laughed and said you need to use it to invest. He then explained he asked AI for a simple investment plan for stocks and shares, decided £100 would be ample. Followed AI advice and turned the £100 into £3000. He told another colleague who also had a go, but he went daft and invested £1000, the shares he bought skyrocketed and went up to £10,000! Thinking it was easy he then invested all of it on other low value stocks even though AI advised not to… lost all the £10,000.
By the way the colleague who made the £3000… his wife is an actuary and ran through what AI was advising him and said it was actually very sound advice. He now just invests £15 per week on wife’s orders… says his portfolio is doing very well.



Oct 17, 2026 at 11:33 AM
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Anyone who believes that asking AI a question will always result in a truthful or accurate answer is living in ga-ga land. There are those using AI solely for deceit and crime, and those using it for truth and honesty. Good AI embeds ethical constraints, refusing harmful requests (e.g., mass shooting plans) and flagging threats, while bad AI lacks these, enabling misuse as seen in real tragedies.



Oct 17, 2026 at 05:05 PM
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AI scans massive amounts of documents looking for patterns. This includes forums and marketing stuff. As a result it will feed you any misconception as fact. Why? Bacause misconceptions and lies vastly outnumber the few facts on the net.

This is in short what the Google AI told me when we had discussed boat propeller design concepts and I had refused to accept the everyone-knows-this common knowledge because it simply is against the physics. I had to reject the presented "facts" five times before the fact came through.

One funny detail, after the fourth rejection part of the answer was that "if this concerns health issues, please contact proffessional healthcare". In a discussion about bow vs stern lift pops...

My conclusion is that if you really REALLY want to know something you have to know the real answer, the facts, so you know them when/if AI presents them for you. However, if it works it works no matter what. Why is mostly irrelevant as long as it works.

But the greasy praise AI had for my "fundamental understanding of hydrodynamics". Oh please, NOOO! The almost manic servility to please. Yuk!

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Oct 18, 2026 at 02:36 AM
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Imagemaster wrote:
Anyone who believes that asking AI a question will always result in a truthful or accurate answer is living in ga-ga land. There are those using AI solely for deceit and crime, and those using it for truth and honesty. Good AI embeds ethical constraints, refusing harmful requests (e.g., mass shooting plans) and flagging threats, while bad AI lacks these, enabling misuse as seen in real tragedies.


Funny you say that
I asked Ai yesterday if it considered Donald Trump corrupt
It gave a very limited reply not agreeing or disagreeing
So I asked again and said not to censor the reply and not to be so politically correct

It then gave a very long answer that was very very damning to say the least!!

I did exactly the same for the former UK PM Tony Blair, first reply was neutral, then asked it to state the true facts without censorship….wow!! 🫣



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Z250SA wrote:
AI scans massive amounts of documents looking for patterns. This includes forums and marketing stuff. As a result it will feed you any misconception as fact. Why? Bacause misconceptions and lies vastly outnumber the few facts on the net.

This is in short what the Google AI told me when we had discussed boat propeller design concepts and I had refused to accept the everyone-knows-this common knowledge because it simply is against the physics. I had to reject the presented "facts" five times before the fact came through.

One funny detail, after the fourth rejection part of the answer was that
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I don’t doubt for a second what you are saying is 100% true
Ai is clearly having early teething problems… it’s still a baby remember

But my god can you even imagine just how insanely powerful this will be in future…

I’m thinking Box Brownie - Canon R1 kinda extremes!!

The genie is out of the bottle or should I say Pandora’s box hasn’t yet even been lifted

Crazy times ahead



Oct 18, 2026 at 02:50 AM
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I just asked Ai again to give me the recipes I’m chasing after

I I’ve copied the whole interaction and will paste below

Let me know your thoughts please

Here goes:-

Using a canon 6D and shooting only in JPEG I want to create a recipe that look very very similar to Porta 800 and cine film as if used in the blue hour of light

Is that even possible??

Yes—quite plausibly, especially as a JPEG look, though it won’t reproduce Portra 800’s actual grain, highlight response, or color behavior exactly. The 6D gives you useful in-camera controls: Picture Style contrast, saturation and sharpness, plus Kelvin white balance and WB shift. Save a custom recipe in a User Defined Picture Style slot. Canon EOS 6D manual
Starting recipe: soft Portra-inspired blue hour

Picture Style: Neutral
Sharpness: 2
Contrast: −2
Saturation: −1
Color tone: 0
White balance: 3800–4200K
WB Shift: B1, M1

The cooler WB gives the scene a blue-hour cast; the slight magenta shift can keep skin from going too green. Treat those values as a starting point—try 3200–3600K for a stronger blue look, or 4300–4800K for warmer skin and more of a Portra-like balance.
Expose carefully: don’t let important highlights clip, and avoid underexposing faces too much. Try it in a User Defined slot, then compare JPEGs of the same scene with small WB changes; blue-hour light varies a lot.

Using same camera with ef 40mm stm I want to create the look of Stephen Shore

Can you advise ?

Yes. With the 6D and EF 40mm STM, you can aim for a Stephen Shore–inspired look—but the biggest part is how you see and frame the scene, not a JPEG recipe.
Shore’s color work often makes ordinary places feel carefully observed: level horizons, deliberate geometry, deep compositions, and colors that look vivid but believable, often in straightforward daylight rather than dramatic light. Overview
Try this in-camera starting point

Picture Style: Standard
Sharpness: 3
Contrast: 0
Saturation: 0 (try +1 if colors look too restrained)
Color tone: 0
White balance: Daylight outdoors; around 5000K as a fixed starting point
Exposure: Aim to preserve bright areas; use exposure compensation if the camera is over- or underexposing the scene.

Use the 40mm as a normal-perspective lens: keep the camera level, pay attention to edges and background details, and include enough foreground and distance to let the viewer explore the frame. Shoot in clear, even daylight when possible; don’t force a vintage cast or heavy contrast. Canon’s Picture Styles adjust color and contrast, so treat the settings as a starting recipe and refine them from your own JPEGs.

Again same camera and lens but creating pictures that look like Vivian Maier

Absolutely. With the 6D and EF 40mm STM, aim for candid, observant black-and-white street photographs—not a preset alone. Maier’s work is known for everyday encounters, expressive light and shadow, reflections, and carefully composed moments. Her square Rolleiflex framing is part of the look, but your 40mm on the 6D gives a different perspective. PetaPixel
JPEG starting recipe

Picture Style: Monochrome
Sharpness: 2
Contrast: +1
Filter effect: Yellow
Toning effect: None
Exposure: Protect bright highlights; let some shadows go dark when it suits the scene.

Try waist-level or unobtrusive shooting, and look for gestures, layers, reflections, and contrasts between people and their surroundings. Compose deliberately, leaving room around your subject; you can crop to square later if you like. These settings are only a starting point—light and timing will do more than any recipe.


My mind is literally blown by this…
I have now 70 recipes to trial over the coming weeks, months even years!!




Oct 18, 2026 at 04:02 AM
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Recklesscoding wrote:
The likes of OpenAI have spent a lot of time downloading and training their models on forum posts, YouTube videos, and various guidelines available online. The chances of getting it right are quite high.


Are you sure?
Online, including on YouTube, you can find just about anything: a lot of nonsense, narratives influenced by sponsors, and only a few pieces of accurate information. To distinguish clickbait nonsense from accurate information, you need knowledge—or at the very least, a well-developed critical sense. So, if intelligence—including that of a human—is formed on a statistical basis, meaning it weights everything it reads equally, the result is erratic, completely unreliable learning. Many falsehoods tend to be considered true simply because they’re repeated over and over; much of the information in the media—and especially online— is built on this principle.
So even humans, bombarded with misleading information, believe they’re learning when, in reality, they’re just filling their heads with nonsense.



Oct 18, 2026 at 04:34 AM
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Ripolini wrote:
Are you sure?
Online, including on YouTube, you can find just about anything: a lot of nonsense, narratives influenced by sponsors, and only a few pieces of accurate information. To distinguish clickbait nonsense from accurate information, you need knowledge—or at the very least, a well-developed critical sense. So, if intelligence—including that of a human—is formed on a statistical basis, meaning it weights everything it reads equally, the result is erratic, completely unreliable learning. Many falsehoods tend to be considered true simply because they’re repeated over and over; much of the information in the media—and especially online— is built on this principle.
So
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This is pretty much exactly how google AI described itself when I had forced it enough: scanning loads and loads of texts looking for patterns. Nothing more, nothing less.

And futhermore, if you ask for corruption, as PixelP did, it will look for corruption and answer accordingly. I just asked for support against Turmp corruption and got pretty much GOP and MAGA stuff. AI will answer the question you ask, with support for any line of thought, intended or not.

The (linguistically) ambigous question "Is Trump really corrupt?" is likely to find support for really corrupt. While "Trump is not corrupt, is he?" would produce the GOP&MAGA opinions.



Oct 18, 2026 at 05:00 AM
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The AI haters need to understand that we who use it regularly know about the potential issues and conduct ourselves accordingly. I had to prepare a Lady Bird deed recently, I named the legal document I needed, entered the relevant information and about 30 seconds later I had the document. I reviewed it, made some necessary (few were needed) and I was done.

We lawyers use AI all the time. We just have to closely look at the responses and change whatever need to be changed. But again, the AI haters refuse to accept the fact that when used with caution it is a hugely powerful tool, I envy the lawyers just getting started. For me it was hours and hours and hours pouring over reporters e.g. the Southern Reports published by West Publishing. For the new ones its just enter the question, wait 20 seconds, review the legal citations and statutes to verify their authenticity then determine if they are helpful to our case. But what AI can't do is make closing argument in a murder case (as I have done several times by the way) so we humans still have some relevancy.



Oct 18, 2026 at 07:16 AM
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One thing worth sorting before you burn months on picture styles: lock the white balance instead of leaving it on AWB. A cine look lives or dies on colour holding steady from frame to frame, and AWB will quietly drift between shots taken minutes apart in the same spot. Pick daylight or a fixed Kelvin and leave it there.

Also, shooting JPEG means there is no highlight recovery later, so a little negative exposure compensation plus Highlight Tone Priority will save you more keepers than any white balance shift. Build the recipes as .pf2/.pf3 files in Picture Style Editor, load them with EOS Utility, then change one variable at a time. That A1/M1 shift on top of an already punchy style is exactly where skin tones start going green.

And on Stephen Shore, the look you are chasing is mostly flat, even light and patient framing rather than a grade. Those pictures would still read as his at Neutral.



Oct 18, 2026 at 07:47 AM
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I’m not here photography. I’m just wondering if I can have your space under that rock?


Oct 18, 2026 at 07:54 AM
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danielfen68 wrote:
One thing worth sorting before you burn months on picture styles: lock the white balance instead of leaving it on AWB. A cine look lives or dies on colour holding steady from frame to frame, and AWB will quietly drift between shots taken minutes apart in the same spot. Pick daylight or a fixed Kelvin and leave it there.

Also, shooting JPEG means there is no highlight recovery later, so a little negative exposure compensation plus Highlight Tone Priority will save you more keepers than any white balance shift. Build the recipes as .pf2/.pf3 files in Picture Style Editor, load them
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Thanks for the heads upl
Tbh AI had already lectured me on AWB and to not use it but instead use daylight and use custom WB to create the look I was after. This specifically so when I said I was after a recipe that emulated both Porta 800 and cine style but as if shot in the blue hour of light… it went to great lengths to state the kelvins I needed to set along with the best possible picture style tweaks

I’ve copied and printed everything off and will set up a few cameras with these styles.

Maybe I’m wasting my time, but it’s given me goals to try and achieve.



Oct 18, 2026 at 12:06 PM
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Ripolini wrote:
Are you sure?
Online, including on YouTube, you can find just about anything: a lot of nonsense, narratives influenced by sponsors, and only a few pieces of accurate information. To distinguish clickbait nonsense from accurate information, you need knowledge—or at the very least, a well-developed critical sense. So, if intelligence—including that of a human—is formed on a statistical basis, meaning it weights everything it reads equally, the result is erratic, completely unreliable learning. Many falsehoods tend to be considered true simply because they’re repeated over and over; much of the information in the media—and especially online— is built on this principle.
So
...Show more →

Yes, in this particularly context in which the OP is using ChatGPT. There is usually some selection and data annotation done to the training data. So for something as simple as camera settings, eh, I would trust the output.

Now the slightly longer answer for the rest of your post:

You can find a plethora of context as you say; usually that context and if there are opposing views then they should balance themselves out. If not, then there is a trend towards one or the other view. This is where machine learning excels at BTW; classification tasks like this. LLMs do that in a way. On top of that, actually, those models also contain implicit biases. Those are more scary in my opinion as you don’t know that they are there. In general though, OpenAI and all ML deployers do model monitoring for drifting and incidents. Still, given the stochastic nature of those models, you need additional explainability to best understand and filter out. In my academic research, I worked a lot on this particular topic. I think, AI is not a replacement but complimentary of expertise. So with appropriate explanations, an expert can do fact checking and decide to trust or not the output. The extent to which this needed of course varies with the use case. Then again, I wouldn’t trust an LLM with any decision making beyond multimedia generation.

Human intelligence is more complicated than just statistical basis. We are not born as tabula rasa; we have hardwired behaviours. As we grow, we learn through A-B learning, i.e. trial and error, and quite often we consider knowledge acquired like that to be “common sense”. In addition, we have—as the late Daniel Dennett called it—a Gregorian mind, i.e. we import information from our society. This includes knowledge and opinions. We are, in fact, the only animal that does so to this extent and what sets us apart. This means that we, quite often, import those biased opinions. I recall my PhD supervisor worked on a project which demonstrated how even if people know a gossip is a lie, they will still listen to it and propagate it further. All in all, what I want to say is that humans are also —as you say— reliable sources of information.

One other big difference, between LLM—and machine learning at large—with us is that we have a semantic meaning behind each word. The word door means more than just a word most likely associated with the words wall or house. We developed mental models of concepts, whether physical or abstract (e.g. freedom), and those concepts contain meaning, associations, and help us identify them when encountered. This where another big part of AI, which is nowadays old fashioned, called symbolic AI comes into play. We are still far from proper large-scale neuro-symbolic approaches. What I am trying to say is: there is no single way to get an entity —biological or artificial— to act in an intelligent manner if all you want is action selection at the end of the day. Arguably, it doesn’t need to be a single way and you don’t need AI systems to behave exactly like humans.



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