Fujifilm or Sony APS-C for Travel?
p.4 #1Fujifilm or Sony APS-C for Travel?
chez wrote:
A few things held me back. I didn't see an appreciable difference when using IBIS with the same lens (the excellent Fuji 90/2) on the S20 I rented at the same time where I was seeing shake artifacts at the same shutter speeds, so that upgrade wasn't worth it to me. I never had a problem with the single shot AF, but tracking was more a hit-or-miss proposition. And the 100-400 was great, but it was almost exactly the same size and weight as the original Sony GM without the possibility of using it on a FF.
In the end, I'm glad I waited. As imperfect as I find the camera (which, while closer to the X-E series in form, is essentially an S20 with some very nice AF upgrades) there are aspects of it that you can't get outside of Sony right now. The 759 PDAF points slathered across 93% of the frame give me AF that rarely misses and the AI-enhancements keep tracking sticky. It combined with the 70-200GII make for a very impressive bug/small critter hunter. I wouldn't give it up for any other camera at this point,
That said, I've also taken advantage of the size and weight by taking it along on business travels (and finally, the long story gets to your point). I've played around with that kit and settled on the Sigma 10-18/2.8, Zony 24/1.8, and Tamron 35-100/2.8, with the tele being optional in many situations. My most used lens is the Sigma, because my travels are city based and that's my favorite place for UWA. Sometimes I'll switch out the 35-100 for the 70-200GII if there's a need (bug pavilion or zoo near the hotel, for example) but, for the more typical travel photo, there's really nothing the 6700 does significantly better than the S20, and Fuji offers many other cameras with nice advantages for that style of shooting, so that's where I'd look for an APSC travel option.
As far as lenses, I can strongly recommend the Sigma 10-18/2.8 and Touit 12/2.8 and 32/1.8. For Sony, the Touit 50/2.8's awesome, and it looks good on Fuji, but Fuji makes the 60/2.4 that's generally less expensive and every bit the macro lens with a greater working distance. That said, both lenses lack a control for focus limiting, which should be on every macro. I loved the Fuji 23/2 and 90/2- those are two lenses I'd want ported over if Fuji ever decides to make e-mounts, along with the CV APO-Ultron 35/2 macro.
I hope there's something of use in that ramble.Thanks!! I agree that Sony has the absolute best AF tracking on the market. Even my older A7c tracks better than my newer R6II. I will definitely look into that Sigma you mentioned. Also, I like the idea of renting before committing to any particular camera. If I had done that years ago I probably would have saved a ton of money and aggravation!It takes time to fully understand how to best setup and use a camera. I really don't think renting it ( unless you rent it for say a month ) will truly give you the full appreciation what any camera is capable of doing. Renting a lens for a week...yes you can determine it's strengths and weaknesses...not so with a camera which has many different parameters and features.
You have to dedicate time, both preparing with an understanding of what you need to set in the menus to get your desired results and understanding the menus enough to make changes when things aren't behaving as expected, and actual use. And you have to plan well at a time when you've got the light and weather to put it through it's paces. It's not something you can do on a lark without a lot of unnecessary frustration, but it's doable in a week, even around a full time job. Stills only, at least. Video can take significantly longer.
snegron7 wrote
freaklikeme wrote
Before the 6700 release, I was interested in moving my wildlife hiking kit over to APSC and gave a couple of Fuji kits rentals. I was very impressed with the X-H2s. It's comfortable in use with a nice control layout and a beautiful EVF that made using lenses like the manual CV APO 35/2 macro a pleasure, and I found their 100-400 (the lens I was most interested in at the time) quite good. It has all three shutter options with a clear rate on the e shutter that, like the with a1, makes the other two options only necessary in highly demanding situations, and it was easy to justify the higher price with the great video options the camera offered.A few things held me back. I didn't see an appreciable difference when using IBIS with the same lens (the excellent Fuji 90/2) on the S20 I rented at the same time where I was seeing shake artifacts at the same shutter speeds, so that upgrade wasn't worth it to me. I never had a problem with the single shot AF, but tracking was more a hit-or-miss proposition. And the 100-400 was great, but it was almost exactly the same size and weight as the original Sony GM without the possibility of using it on a FF.
In the end, I'm glad I waited. As imperfect as I find the camera (which, while closer to the X-E series in form, is essentially an S20 with some very nice AF upgrades) there are aspects of it that you can't get outside of Sony right now. The 759 PDAF points slathered across 93% of the frame give me AF that rarely misses and the AI-enhancements keep tracking sticky. It combined with the 70-200GII make for a very impressive bug/small critter hunter. I wouldn't give it up for any other camera at this point,
That said, I've also taken advantage of the size and weight by taking it along on business travels (and finally, the long story gets to your point). I've played around with that kit and settled on the Sigma 10-18/2.8, Zony 24/1.8, and Tamron 35-100/2.8, with the tele being optional in many situations. My most used lens is the Sigma, because my travels are city based and that's my favorite place for UWA. Sometimes I'll switch out the 35-100 for the 70-200GII if there's a need (bug pavilion or zoo near the hotel, for example) but, for the more typical travel photo, there's really nothing the 6700 does significantly better than the S20, and Fuji offers many other cameras with nice advantages for that style of shooting, so that's where I'd look for an APSC travel option.
As far as lenses, I can strongly recommend the Sigma 10-18/2.8 and Touit 12/2.8 and 32/1.8. For Sony, the Touit 50/2.8's awesome, and it looks good on Fuji, but Fuji makes the 60/2.4 that's generally less expensive and every bit the macro lens with a greater working distance. That said, both lenses lack a control for focus limiting, which should be on every macro. I loved the Fuji 23/2 and 90/2- those are two lenses I'd want ported over if Fuji ever decides to make e-mounts, along with the CV APO-Ultron 35/2 macro.
I hope there's something of use in that ramble.
You have to dedicate time, both preparing with an understanding of what you need to set in the menus to get your desired results and understanding the menus enough to make changes when things aren't behaving as expected, and actual use. And you have to plan well at a time when you've got the light and weather to put it through it's paces. It's not something you can do on a lark without a lot of unnecessary frustration, but it's doable in a week, even around a full time job. Stills only, at least. Video can take significantly longer.
Aug 25, 2026 at 10:29 PM
p.4 #2Fujifilm or Sony APS-C for Travel?
snegron7 wrote:
Just got back from a trip to Japan where my primary outfit was a Canon R6II with an RF 24-105mm f4.0L and an RF 16-28mm f2.8 STM. My "backup camera" was an OM-5 with a Panasonic 12-35mm f2.8 G2. While I'm happy with the images I got with my R6II, it was excruciatingly painful carrying the outfit around all day and night as I walked several miles throughout Tokyo.
Just realize your primary outfit of R6II + 24-205 f/4 + 16-28 f/2.8 weighs 1.8kg. That's the same weight as my gear when I travel.
Did you carry the backup camera all the time, or was it carried by your son? If you also had to lug it with you, it's understandable why you found it excruciating.
Just got back from a trip to Japan where my primary outfit was a Canon R6II with an RF 24-105mm f4.0L and an RF 16-28mm f2.8 STM. My "backup camera" was an OM-5 with a Panasonic 12-35mm f2.8 G2. While I'm happy with the images I got with my R6II, it was excruciatingly painful carrying the outfit around all day and night as I walked several miles throughout Tokyo.
Just realize your primary outfit of R6II + 24-205 f/4 + 16-28 f/2.8 weighs 1.8kg. That's the same weight as my gear when I travel.
Did you carry the backup camera all the time, or was it carried by your son? If you also had to lug it with you, it's understandable why you found it excruciating.
Aug 26, 2026 at 07:10 AM
p.4 #3Fujifilm or Sony APS-C for Travel?
I have gone from Sony FF, A7-r4 then A7-cr, to Fuji, X-E5, mainly for size and weight. I am now in my 80s and don't want to carry much that is heavy. The Sony CR was not heavy, but the zooms that I liked added a good bit, mainly the Tamron 28-200. The Fuji 16-80 may not seem like much difference, but 206 grams between camera and lens does. RE different focal lengths, I'm happy to add on the short end and give up something on the long. Also 40 vs 61 mp means little now with some of the new PP programs available. Finally there is a size factor. I wanted something pocketable when I didn't want to carry a kit. The E5 does that with a pancake lens, and even better the E4, which I also have. No way to get the CR in any normal-size pocket.
I also fully understand chacun à son goût.
I also fully understand chacun à son goût.
Aug 26, 2026 at 09:56 AM
p.4 #4Fujifilm or Sony APS-C for Travel?
snegron7 wrote:
Just got back from a trip to Japan where my primary outfit was a Canon R6II with an RF 24-105mm f4.0L and an RF 16-28mm f2.8 STM. My "backup camera" was an OM-5 with a Panasonic 12-35mm f2.8 G2. While I'm happy with the images I got with my R6II, it was excruciatingly painful carrying the outfit around all day and night as I walked several miles throughout Tokyo.
I currently shoot with three different platforms (Sony A7c, A7iv, Canon R6II, and OM System OM-5). I have my reasons for shooting with three platforms, and I have no intention of...Show more →
The combined weight of the Canon EOS R6 Mark II camera and the Canon RF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM lens is approximately 1,370 grams (3.02 lbs) when the camera includes its battery and a memory card.
Thus, why is that this "was excruciatingly painful carrying ...as I walked several miles"?
What is your goal? What should be the weight of the camera system that would allow you to use while walking several miles?
To get a meanigful advice on a reasonably light photography kit for travel - make it specific.
You listed "a Canon R6II with an RF 24-105mm f4.0L and an RF 16-28mm f2.8 STM ... an OM-5 with a Panasonic 12-35mm f2.8 G2". When you say "it was excruciatingly painful carrying the outfit"... what do you mean by the "outfit"? What kind of bag are you using and how heavy is the bag itself? Are you carrying any extras (batteries, a power bank, a tripod...)?
In my case, when hiking for miles, I carry a single camera system (body + lens) inside a light Manfrotto holster, over a shoulder, by my side. My Fujifilm GFX100S II with the GF20-35mm F4 R WR lens attached is approximately 1,608 grams (3.54 lbs), and I don't feel carrying this is a problem at all. When I want an optional second lens with me, I carry this in a (very) light backpack.
I don't believe that replacing a camera system that weighs 1.37 g (3.02 lbs) by one which is, say 900 g (2 lbs), should make this dramatically easier to travel with. Thus, I suspect that the pursuit of the lightest and most compact photography gear (for whatever reason) is a GAS obsession of a kind that might be similar to the pursuit of lenses that have a "rendering".
Just got back from a trip to Japan where my primary outfit was a Canon R6II with an RF 24-105mm f4.0L and an RF 16-28mm f2.8 STM. My "backup camera" was an OM-5 with a Panasonic 12-35mm f2.8 G2. While I'm happy with the images I got with my R6II, it was excruciatingly painful carrying the outfit around all day and night as I walked several miles throughout Tokyo.
I currently shoot with three different platforms (Sony A7c, A7iv, Canon R6II, and OM System OM-5). I have my reasons for shooting with three platforms, and I have no intention of...Show more →
The combined weight of the Canon EOS R6 Mark II camera and the Canon RF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM lens is approximately 1,370 grams (3.02 lbs) when the camera includes its battery and a memory card.
Thus, why is that this "was excruciatingly painful carrying ...as I walked several miles"?
What is your goal? What should be the weight of the camera system that would allow you to use while walking several miles?
To get a meanigful advice on a reasonably light photography kit for travel - make it specific.
You listed "a Canon R6II with an RF 24-105mm f4.0L and an RF 16-28mm f2.8 STM ... an OM-5 with a Panasonic 12-35mm f2.8 G2". When you say "it was excruciatingly painful carrying the outfit"... what do you mean by the "outfit"? What kind of bag are you using and how heavy is the bag itself? Are you carrying any extras (batteries, a power bank, a tripod...)?
In my case, when hiking for miles, I carry a single camera system (body + lens) inside a light Manfrotto holster, over a shoulder, by my side. My Fujifilm GFX100S II with the GF20-35mm F4 R WR lens attached is approximately 1,608 grams (3.54 lbs), and I don't feel carrying this is a problem at all. When I want an optional second lens with me, I carry this in a (very) light backpack.
I don't believe that replacing a camera system that weighs 1.37 g (3.02 lbs) by one which is, say 900 g (2 lbs), should make this dramatically easier to travel with. Thus, I suspect that the pursuit of the lightest and most compact photography gear (for whatever reason) is a GAS obsession of a kind that might be similar to the pursuit of lenses that have a "rendering".
Aug 26, 2026 at 10:56 AM
p.4 #5Fujifilm or Sony APS-C for Travel?
ruthenium wrote:
snegron7 wrote
Just got back from a trip to Japan where my primary outfit was a Canon R6II with an RF 24-105mm f4.0L and an RF 16-28mm f2.8 STM. My "backup camera" was an OM-5 with a Panasonic 12-35mm f2.8 G2. While I'm happy with the images I got with my R6II, it was excruciatingly painful carrying the outfit around all day and night as I walked several miles throughout Tokyo.I currently shoot with three different platforms (Sony A7c, A7iv, Canon R6II, and OM System OM-5). I have my reasons for shooting with three platforms, and I have no intention of selling any of them to go with X or Y brand. This post is not about replacing or consolidating what I currently have; it's about exploring a dedicated APS-C system that has not only several good APS-C cameras in their lineup but also a good variety of dedicated lenses for their cameras.
Also, quick side note, I had but sold the Canon R7 because the AF tracking was terrible and I was limited with the lens options available for it. So, adding an R7 is definitely not an option for me. The other APS-C offerings by Canon are not weather sealed, and finding decent lenses is a very limited option at this time (I had and loved the Tamron 11-20mm f2.8 RDX, but I sold it together with my R7).
So, I'm looking for an APS-C body that is weather sealed and performs well (good AF tracking, good IQ, at least somewhat decent low light performance, and at least a bit of usable dynamic range). My OM-5 is a great camera, but I would like a bigger sensor (like an APS-C).
My A7c is nice and compact, but it is heavy. Add any somewhat fast zoom on it, and it turns into yet another heavy option.
So, since I don't have any APS-C lenses for my Sony cameras, if I were to buy an APS-C Sony I would need to start fresh with new lenses. Therefore, it's like I'd be getting into a new system anyway. So I can go with Fujifilm or Sony APS-C at this time because I have no lenses for them anyway.
For those folks who use or have used both Fujifilm and Sony APS-C outfits, whst are your thoughts?
p.s. I'm posting this on both the Sony and Fujifilm forums to get opinions from both sides.
Thus, why is that this "was excruciatingly painful carrying ...as I walked several miles"?
What is your goal? What should be the weight of the camera system that would allow you to use while walking several miles?
To get a meanigful advice on a reasonably light photography kit for travel - make it specific.
You listed "a Canon R6II with an RF 24-105mm f4.0L and an RF...Show more →
First of all, you forgot to add the weight of the other things in my bag:
- Canon RF 16-28mm f2.8 STM = 445 grams
- Water bottle = 479 grams
- Small power bank = 323 grams
- Portable hotspot = 150 grams
So add that extra 1,397 grams plus my lightweight 2 pound backpack, that makes it a total of 9 pounds that I'm carrying around all day.
Second, don't you think it's rather rude on your behalf comparing yourself to others who may not be in as "top physical condition" as you? Has it occurred to you that there are other human beings out there who are actually built differently than yourself? Just because you are perfectly fine with hiking for miles with dozens of pounds in your backpack doesn't mean we all have to measure up to your standards. Newsflash: we are not all built the same way with the same muscle mass.
Third, and most importantly, why would you take the time to answer a post that you are clearly annoyed with? Making dismissive, condescending accusations of me "just having a gass obsession" proves that you have no intent whatsoever to participate in a discussion about gear, which is what Fredmiranda.com is all about. Yes, this is a forum about GEAR, not about personality analysis or philosophical judgment. If you don't like to discuss gear and prefer to make disparaging, condescending remarks, why bother being here at all? Everyone else here has been very respectful and have discussed gear opinions and options, but you chose to belittle and judge me for whatever unknown reason. I am not cool with that.
Aug 26, 2026 at 01:27 PM
p.4 #6Fujifilm or Sony APS-C for Travel?
thw02 wrote:
snegron7 wrote
Just got back from a trip to Japan where my primary outfit was a Canon R6II with an RF 24-105mm f4.0L and an RF 16-28mm f2.8 STM. My "backup camera" was an OM-5 with a Panasonic 12-35mm f2.8 G2. While I'm happy with the images I got with my R6II, it was excruciatingly painful carrying the outfit around all day and night as I walked several miles throughout Tokyo. Did you carry the backup camera all the time, or was it carried by your son? If you also had to lug it with you, it's understandable why you found it excruciating.
For the first three days my kid carried the OM-5 outfit, but I had to carry the extra water bottle. After that, the OM-5 stayed in the hotel for a few days. Toward the end of the trip I left the R6II outfit at the hotel and carried the OM-5 instead!
One more thing I forgot to mention; when I'm using whatever camera, I have it around my neck. That gets old really quick. There is a huge difference between an R6II with an RF 24-105mm f4.0L vs an OM-5 with a Panasonic 12-35mm f2.8 G2 hanging on your neck!
In addition to my backpack, I packed a shoulder bag with me to alternate days between either using a backpack or using a shoulder bag. I think I used the shoulder bag two days during this trip. Unfortunately it proved to be cumbersome to walk through large overcrowded trains, stations and streets with a shoulder bag, so I went back to using the backpack. Mid trip I was able to buy a lighter backpack which made a bit of a difference in terms of weight, but the straps were narrower and dug into my armpits more.
Aug 26, 2026 at 01:39 PM
p.4 #7Fujifilm or Sony APS-C for Travel?
Driften wrote:
In the end, I'm glad I waited. As imperfect as I find the camera (which, while closer to the X-E series in form, is essentially an S20 with some very nice AF upgrades) there are aspects of it that you can't get outside of Sony right now. The 759 PDAF points slathered across 93% of the frame give me AF that rarely misses and the AI-enhancements keep tracking sticky. It combined with the 70-200GII make for a very impressive bug/small critter hunter. I wouldn't give it up for any other camera at this point,
.....It's funny the 70-200GII while light for a f/4 full frame lens of it's quality, after buying it and taking it out once it made me sell off my Sony A7CII and lenses. I bought an OM-1 II and cut my lens weight in half. I'm just too old to be carrying around that much weight and it increases how much my hands shake by a lot. Funny thing is if I'm sticking to small primes the weights between my OM II, X-T5, and Lumix s9 are really close. The Sony wouldn't have been that different but when it...Show more →
I'm not quite there yet on the weight. My line in the sand right now is nothing larger or heavier than the 300GM, but I know the day is coming.
freaklikeme wrote
...In the end, I'm glad I waited. As imperfect as I find the camera (which, while closer to the X-E series in form, is essentially an S20 with some very nice AF upgrades) there are aspects of it that you can't get outside of Sony right now. The 759 PDAF points slathered across 93% of the frame give me AF that rarely misses and the AI-enhancements keep tracking sticky. It combined with the 70-200GII make for a very impressive bug/small critter hunter. I wouldn't give it up for any other camera at this point,
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I'm not quite there yet on the weight. My line in the sand right now is nothing larger or heavier than the 300GM, but I know the day is coming.
Aug 26, 2026 at 03:35 PM
p.4 #8Fujifilm or Sony APS-C for Travel?
ruthenium wrote:
I currently shoot with three different platforms (Sony A7c, A7iv, Canon R6II, and OM System OM-5). I have my reasons for shooting with three platforms, and I have no intention of selling any of them to go with X or Y brand. This post is not about replacing or consolidating what I currently have; it's about exploring a dedicated APS-C system that has not only several good APS-C cameras in their lineup but also a good variety of dedicated lenses for their cameras.
Also, quick side note, I had but sold the Canon R7 because the AF tracking was terrible and I was limited with the lens options available for it. So, adding an R7 is definitely not an option for me. The other APS-C offerings by Canon are not weather sealed, and finding decent lenses is a very limited option at this time (I had and loved the Tamron 11-20mm f2.8 RDX, but I sold it together with my R7).
So, I'm looking for an APS-C body that is weather sealed and performs well (good AF tracking, good IQ, at least somewhat decent low light performance, and at least a bit of usable dynamic range). My OM-5 is a great camera, but I would like a bigger sensor (like an APS-C).
My A7c is nice and compact, but it is heavy. Add any somewhat fast zoom on it, and it turns into yet another heavy option.
So, since I don't have any APS-C lenses for my Sony cameras, if I were to buy an APS-C Sony I would need to start fresh with new lenses. Therefore, it's like I'd be getting into a new system anyway. So I can go with Fujifilm or Sony APS-C at this time because I have no lenses for them anyway.
For those folks who use or have used both Fujifilm and Sony APS-C outfits, whst are your thoughts?
p.s. I'm posting this on both the Sony and Fujifilm forums to get opinions from both sides.In my case, when hiking for miles, I carry a single camera system (body + lens) inside a light Manfrotto holster, over a shoulder, by my side. My Fujifilm GFX100S II with the GF20-35mm F4 R WR lens attached is approximately 1,608 grams (3.54 lbs), and I don't feel carrying this is a problem at all. When I want an optional second lens with me, I carry this in a (very) light backpack.
I don't believe that replacing a camera system that weighs 1.37 g (3.02 lbs) by one which is, say 900 g (2 lbs), should make this dramatically easier...Show more →
I'm sure when you get to my age, as judging from you picture you're still a few years away, you will find, if you are even able to still be hiking, that one pound, or 206 grams as I mentioned above, does make a difference. I'm sure others can back me up on that. Also a period goes inside quotation marks.
snegron7 wrote
Just got back from a trip to Japan where my primary outfit was a Canon R6II with an RF 24-105mm f4.0L and an RF 16-28mm f2.8 STM. My "backup camera" was an OM-5 with a Panasonic 12-35mm f2.8 G2. While I'm happy with the images I got with my R6II, it was excruciatingly painful carrying the outfit around all day and night as I walked several miles throughout Tokyo.I currently shoot with three different platforms (Sony A7c, A7iv, Canon R6II, and OM System OM-5). I have my reasons for shooting with three platforms, and I have no intention of selling any of them to go with X or Y brand. This post is not about replacing or consolidating what I currently have; it's about exploring a dedicated APS-C system that has not only several good APS-C cameras in their lineup but also a good variety of dedicated lenses for their cameras.
Also, quick side note, I had but sold the Canon R7 because the AF tracking was terrible and I was limited with the lens options available for it. So, adding an R7 is definitely not an option for me. The other APS-C offerings by Canon are not weather sealed, and finding decent lenses is a very limited option at this time (I had and loved the Tamron 11-20mm f2.8 RDX, but I sold it together with my R7).
So, I'm looking for an APS-C body that is weather sealed and performs well (good AF tracking, good IQ, at least somewhat decent low light performance, and at least a bit of usable dynamic range). My OM-5 is a great camera, but I would like a bigger sensor (like an APS-C).
My A7c is nice and compact, but it is heavy. Add any somewhat fast zoom on it, and it turns into yet another heavy option.
So, since I don't have any APS-C lenses for my Sony cameras, if I were to buy an APS-C Sony I would need to start fresh with new lenses. Therefore, it's like I'd be getting into a new system anyway. So I can go with Fujifilm or Sony APS-C at this time because I have no lenses for them anyway.
For those folks who use or have used both Fujifilm and Sony APS-C outfits, whst are your thoughts?
p.s. I'm posting this on both the Sony and Fujifilm forums to get opinions from both sides.
I don't believe that replacing a camera system that weighs 1.37 g (3.02 lbs) by one which is, say 900 g (2 lbs), should make this dramatically easier...Show more →
I'm sure when you get to my age, as judging from you picture you're still a few years away, you will find, if you are even able to still be hiking, that one pound, or 206 grams as I mentioned above, does make a difference. I'm sure others can back me up on that. Also a period goes inside quotation marks.
Aug 26, 2026 at 07:27 PM
p.4 #9Fujifilm or Sony APS-C for Travel?
snegron7 wrote:
I currently shoot with three different platforms (Sony A7c, A7iv, Canon R6II, and OM System OM-5). I have my reasons for shooting with three platforms, and I have no intention of selling any of them to go with X or Y brand. This post is not about replacing or consolidating what I currently have; it's about exploring a dedicated APS-C system that has not only several good APS-C cameras in their lineup but also a good variety of dedicated lenses for their cameras.
Also, quick side note, I had but sold the Canon R7 because the AF tracking was terrible and I was limited with the lens options available for it. So, adding an R7 is definitely not an option for me. The other APS-C offerings by Canon are not weather sealed, and finding decent lenses is a very limited option at this time (I had and loved the Tamron 11-20mm f2.8 RDX, but I sold it together with my R7).
So, I'm looking for an APS-C body that is weather sealed and performs well (good AF tracking, good IQ, at least somewhat decent low light performance, and at least a bit of usable dynamic range). My OM-5 is a great camera, but I would like a bigger sensor (like an APS-C).
My A7c is nice and compact, but it is heavy. Add any somewhat fast zoom on it, and it turns into yet another heavy option.
So, since I don't have any APS-C lenses for my Sony cameras, if I were to buy an APS-C Sony I would need to start fresh with new lenses. Therefore, it's like I'd be getting into a new system anyway. So I can go with Fujifilm or Sony APS-C at this time because I have no lenses for them anyway.
For those folks who use or have used both Fujifilm and Sony APS-C outfits, whst are your thoughts?
p.s. I'm posting this on both the Sony and Fujifilm forums to get opinions from both sides.The combined weight of the Canon EOS R6 Mark II camera and the Canon RF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM lens is approximately 1,370 grams (3.02 lbs) when the camera includes its battery and a memory card.
Thus, why is that this "was excruciatingly painful carrying ...as I walked several miles"?
What is your goal? What should be the weight of the camera system that would allow you to use while walking several miles?
To get a meanigful advice on a reasonably light photography kit for travel - make it specific.
You listed "a Canon R6II with an RF 24-105mm f4.0L and an RF 16-28mm f2.8 STM ... an OM-5 with a Panasonic 12-35mm f2.8 G2". When you say "it was excruciatingly painful carrying the outfit"... what do you mean by the "outfit"? What kind of bag are you using and how heavy is the bag itself? Are you carrying any extras (batteries, a power bank, a tripod...)?
In my case, when hiking for miles, I carry a single camera system (body + lens) inside a light Manfrotto holster, over a shoulder, by my side. My Fujifilm GFX100S II with the GF20-35mm F4 R WR lens attached is approximately 1,608 grams (3.54 lbs), and I don't feel carrying this is a problem at all. When I want an optional second lens with me, I carry this in a (very) light backpack.
I don't believe that replacing a camera system that weighs 1.37 g (3.02 lbs) by one which is, say 900 g (2 lbs), should make this dramatically easier to travel with. Thus, I suspect that the pursuit of the lightest and most compact photography gear (for whatever reason) is a GAS obsession of a kind that might be similar to the pursuit of lenses that have a "rendering".First of all, you forgot to add the weight of the other things in my bag:
- Canon RF 16-28mm f2.8 STM = 445 grams
- Water bottle = 479 grams
- Small power bank = 323 grams
- Portable hotspot = 150 grams
So add that extra 1,397 grams plus my lightweight 2 pound backpack, that makes it a total of 9 pounds that I'm carrying around all day.
Second, don't you think it's rather rude on your behalf comparing yourself to others who may not be in as "top physical condition" as you? Has it occurred to you that there are other human...Show more →
I am sorry, I didn't mean to be dismissive, condescending, and rude. Furthermore, I apologize for creating the impression that I "chose to belittle and judge" you. This wasn't my intention. I am 66 years old, and by no means I can pretend to be a model of a physically fit man - I am not. The reason to mention what I carry on walks when travel was to propose a way of carrying a camera system, based on personal experience.
Thank you for providing the specifics on what you referred to as the "outfit".
I now understand that you were walking in Tokyo (during the hottest days of the summer in Japan) with the Canon EOS R6 Mark II camera and the Canon RF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM lens (3.02 lbs) around your neck, plus a backpack that weighted about 6 lbs. I can imagine, that must have been challenging.
I apologize again for creating the unfortunate impression that my previous post was hostile (it was critical, but not unfriendly as it made you feel).
ruthenium wrote
snegron7 wrote
Just got back from a trip to Japan where my primary outfit was a Canon R6II with an RF 24-105mm f4.0L and an RF 16-28mm f2.8 STM. My "backup camera" was an OM-5 with a Panasonic 12-35mm f2.8 G2. While I'm happy with the images I got with my R6II, it was excruciatingly painful carrying the outfit around all day and night as I walked several miles throughout Tokyo.I currently shoot with three different platforms (Sony A7c, A7iv, Canon R6II, and OM System OM-5). I have my reasons for shooting with three platforms, and I have no intention of selling any of them to go with X or Y brand. This post is not about replacing or consolidating what I currently have; it's about exploring a dedicated APS-C system that has not only several good APS-C cameras in their lineup but also a good variety of dedicated lenses for their cameras.
Also, quick side note, I had but sold the Canon R7 because the AF tracking was terrible and I was limited with the lens options available for it. So, adding an R7 is definitely not an option for me. The other APS-C offerings by Canon are not weather sealed, and finding decent lenses is a very limited option at this time (I had and loved the Tamron 11-20mm f2.8 RDX, but I sold it together with my R7).
So, I'm looking for an APS-C body that is weather sealed and performs well (good AF tracking, good IQ, at least somewhat decent low light performance, and at least a bit of usable dynamic range). My OM-5 is a great camera, but I would like a bigger sensor (like an APS-C).
My A7c is nice and compact, but it is heavy. Add any somewhat fast zoom on it, and it turns into yet another heavy option.
So, since I don't have any APS-C lenses for my Sony cameras, if I were to buy an APS-C Sony I would need to start fresh with new lenses. Therefore, it's like I'd be getting into a new system anyway. So I can go with Fujifilm or Sony APS-C at this time because I have no lenses for them anyway.
For those folks who use or have used both Fujifilm and Sony APS-C outfits, whst are your thoughts?
p.s. I'm posting this on both the Sony and Fujifilm forums to get opinions from both sides.
Thus, why is that this "was excruciatingly painful carrying ...as I walked several miles"?
What is your goal? What should be the weight of the camera system that would allow you to use while walking several miles?
To get a meanigful advice on a reasonably light photography kit for travel - make it specific.
You listed "a Canon R6II with an RF 24-105mm f4.0L and an RF 16-28mm f2.8 STM ... an OM-5 with a Panasonic 12-35mm f2.8 G2". When you say "it was excruciatingly painful carrying the outfit"... what do you mean by the "outfit"? What kind of bag are you using and how heavy is the bag itself? Are you carrying any extras (batteries, a power bank, a tripod...)?
In my case, when hiking for miles, I carry a single camera system (body + lens) inside a light Manfrotto holster, over a shoulder, by my side. My Fujifilm GFX100S II with the GF20-35mm F4 R WR lens attached is approximately 1,608 grams (3.54 lbs), and I don't feel carrying this is a problem at all. When I want an optional second lens with me, I carry this in a (very) light backpack.
I don't believe that replacing a camera system that weighs 1.37 g (3.02 lbs) by one which is, say 900 g (2 lbs), should make this dramatically easier to travel with. Thus, I suspect that the pursuit of the lightest and most compact photography gear (for whatever reason) is a GAS obsession of a kind that might be similar to the pursuit of lenses that have a "rendering".
- Canon RF 16-28mm f2.8 STM = 445 grams
- Water bottle = 479 grams
- Small power bank = 323 grams
- Portable hotspot = 150 grams
So add that extra 1,397 grams plus my lightweight 2 pound backpack, that makes it a total of 9 pounds that I'm carrying around all day.
Second, don't you think it's rather rude on your behalf comparing yourself to others who may not be in as "top physical condition" as you? Has it occurred to you that there are other human...Show more →
I am sorry, I didn't mean to be dismissive, condescending, and rude. Furthermore, I apologize for creating the impression that I "chose to belittle and judge" you. This wasn't my intention. I am 66 years old, and by no means I can pretend to be a model of a physically fit man - I am not. The reason to mention what I carry on walks when travel was to propose a way of carrying a camera system, based on personal experience.
Thank you for providing the specifics on what you referred to as the "outfit".
I now understand that you were walking in Tokyo (during the hottest days of the summer in Japan) with the Canon EOS R6 Mark II camera and the Canon RF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM lens (3.02 lbs) around your neck, plus a backpack that weighted about 6 lbs. I can imagine, that must have been challenging.
I apologize again for creating the unfortunate impression that my previous post was hostile (it was critical, but not unfriendly as it made you feel).
Aug 26, 2026 at 07:50 PM
p.4 #10Fujifilm or Sony APS-C for Travel?
snegron7 wrote:
Just realize your primary outfit of R6II + 24-205 f/4 + 16-28 f/2.8 weighs 1.8kg. That's the same weight as my gear when I travel.
Did you carry the backup camera all the time, or was it carried by your son? If you also had to lug it with you, it's understandable why you found it excruciating.There is a huge difference between an R6II with an RF 24-105mm f4.0L vs an OM-5 with a Panasonic 12-35mm f2.8 G2 hanging on your neck!
Reminds me of the 24-105 + 6D I used in the past. It’s almost the same weight as your 24-105 + R6ii
A7CR + 28–60 (682g)
OM-5 + 12–35mm f/2.8 G2 (719g)
A9III + 28–60 (870g)
R6II + RF 24–105mm f/4L (1,370g)
6D + EF 24–105mm f/4L (1,425g).
thw02 wrote
snegron7 wrote
Just got back from a trip to Japan where my primary outfit was a Canon R6II with an RF 24-105mm f4.0L and an RF 16-28mm f2.8 STM. My "backup camera" was an OM-5 with a Panasonic 12-35mm f2.8 G2. While I'm happy with the images I got with my R6II, it was excruciatingly painful carrying the outfit around all day and night as I walked several miles throughout Tokyo. Did you carry the backup camera all the time, or was it carried by your son? If you also had to lug it with you, it's understandable why you found it excruciating.
Reminds me of the 24-105 + 6D I used in the past. It’s almost the same weight as your 24-105 + R6ii
A7CR + 28–60 (682g)
OM-5 + 12–35mm f/2.8 G2 (719g)
A9III + 28–60 (870g)
R6II + RF 24–105mm f/4L (1,370g)
6D + EF 24–105mm f/4L (1,425g).
Aug 27, 2026 at 06:21 PM
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p.4 #11Fujifilm or Sony APS-C for Travel?
aCuria wrote:
Reminds me of the 24-105 + 6D I used in the past. It’s almost the same weight as your 24-105 + R6ii
A7CR + 28–60 (682g)
OM-5 + 12–35mm f/2.8 G2 (719g)
A9III + 28–60 (870g)
R6II + RF 24–105mm f/4L (1,370g)
6D + EF 24–105mm f/4L (1,425g).
For a fair comparison, I added the FF equivalent DOF info.
A7CR + 28–60mm f/4-5.6 (682g)
OM-5 + 12–35mm f/2.8 G2 or 24-70mm f/5.6 (719g)
A9III + 28–60mm f/4-5.6 (870g)
R6II + RF 24–105mm f/4L (1,370g)
6D + EF 24–105mm f/4L (1,425g)
Reminds me of the 24-105 + 6D I used in the past. It’s almost the same weight as your 24-105 + R6ii
A7CR + 28–60 (682g)
OM-5 + 12–35mm f/2.8 G2 (719g)
A9III + 28–60 (870g)
R6II + RF 24–105mm f/4L (1,370g)
6D + EF 24–105mm f/4L (1,425g).
For a fair comparison, I added the FF equivalent DOF info.
A7CR + 28–60mm f/4-5.6 (682g)
OM-5 + 12–35mm f/2.8 G2 or 24-70mm f/5.6 (719g)
A9III + 28–60mm f/4-5.6 (870g)
R6II + RF 24–105mm f/4L (1,370g)
6D + EF 24–105mm f/4L (1,425g)
Aug 27, 2026 at 07:43 PM
p.4 #12Fujifilm or Sony APS-C for Travel?
As you have probably figured out by now, there’s no ultimate agreement about which system is “best.” Fortunately, people mange to make great photographs with just about all of the options. In a sense, my temptation is to say that in a general way any of them could work well for you as long as the size is right and you can find lenses that fit your preferences.
One option that I’d think you would really want to stick with (since you already have a FF body and and an MFT body) would be to keep that OM system as your “small travel setup. You really should be able to produce excellent results from that format with good lenses designed for the system. I’ve seen excellent mid-sized prints from MFT, so it should be more than capable enough for even serious travel photography, and some of the lens/camera options are exceptionally small and light for the flexibility and quality they deliver.
Your A7c obviously provides another useful and interesting option, though you would likely have to figure out what small lenses work best for your particular travel needs. Your system could be quite small by full frame standards, though perhaps not as small as the MFT and APS-C options. (A question is whether you would gain that much over this option by moving to APS-C from Sony or another brand — not a simple question perhaps.)
I can’t say much about Sony’s APS-C offerings since I have not used them. My travel system is a Fujifilm XT5, typically with three relatively small primes: 27mm f/2.8 pancake lens, 14mm f/2.8, and 50mm f/2. This system produces excellent image quality and is small enough to fit into my shoulder or sling bag that also carries things like my iPad and personal items when I fly. I’ve been using this specific system for several years and similar Fujifilm setups before that.
(I also used to travel with my FF system and regular, large zoom lenses and sometimes primes. But I finally realized that, like you, I do not want to be burdened by the bulk and weight of that gear while traveling… and that the quality of the smaller systems can be excellent.)
So, there you go… no single “right” answer… and mine are obviously not the only options. I know that the hope that there is one correct answer is appealing, but the truth is that there isn’t, and the process of working out what will work for you can be challenging.
snegron7 wrote:
Just got back from a trip to Japan where my primary outfit was a Canon R6II with an RF 24-105mm f4.0L and an RF 16-28mm f2.8 STM. My "backup camera" was an OM-5 with a Panasonic 12-35mm f2.8 G2. While I'm happy with the images I got with my R6II, it was excruciatingly painful carrying the outfit around all day and night as I walked several miles throughout Tokyo.
I currently shoot with three different platforms (Sony A7c, A7iv, Canon R6II, and OM System OM-5). I have my reasons for shooting with three platforms, and I have no intention of...Show more →
One option that I’d think you would really want to stick with (since you already have a FF body and and an MFT body) would be to keep that OM system as your “small travel setup. You really should be able to produce excellent results from that format with good lenses designed for the system. I’ve seen excellent mid-sized prints from MFT, so it should be more than capable enough for even serious travel photography, and some of the lens/camera options are exceptionally small and light for the flexibility and quality they deliver.
Your A7c obviously provides another useful and interesting option, though you would likely have to figure out what small lenses work best for your particular travel needs. Your system could be quite small by full frame standards, though perhaps not as small as the MFT and APS-C options. (A question is whether you would gain that much over this option by moving to APS-C from Sony or another brand — not a simple question perhaps.)
I can’t say much about Sony’s APS-C offerings since I have not used them. My travel system is a Fujifilm XT5, typically with three relatively small primes: 27mm f/2.8 pancake lens, 14mm f/2.8, and 50mm f/2. This system produces excellent image quality and is small enough to fit into my shoulder or sling bag that also carries things like my iPad and personal items when I fly. I’ve been using this specific system for several years and similar Fujifilm setups before that.
(I also used to travel with my FF system and regular, large zoom lenses and sometimes primes. But I finally realized that, like you, I do not want to be burdened by the bulk and weight of that gear while traveling… and that the quality of the smaller systems can be excellent.)
So, there you go… no single “right” answer… and mine are obviously not the only options. I know that the hope that there is one correct answer is appealing, but the truth is that there isn’t, and the process of working out what will work for you can be challenging.
snegron7 wrote:
Just got back from a trip to Japan where my primary outfit was a Canon R6II with an RF 24-105mm f4.0L and an RF 16-28mm f2.8 STM. My "backup camera" was an OM-5 with a Panasonic 12-35mm f2.8 G2. While I'm happy with the images I got with my R6II, it was excruciatingly painful carrying the outfit around all day and night as I walked several miles throughout Tokyo.
I currently shoot with three different platforms (Sony A7c, A7iv, Canon R6II, and OM System OM-5). I have my reasons for shooting with three platforms, and I have no intention of...Show more →
Aug 28, 2026 at 08:31 AM
p.4 #13Fujifilm or Sony APS-C for Travel?
gdanmitchell wrote:
there’s no ultimate agreement about which system is “best.” Fortunately, people mange to make great photographs with just about all of the options.
Well, there is a long lived agreement about people who shoot pictures: the system does not really matter, the photographer does and spending more time practicing, seeing exhibits and reading photo books is more important than changing camera or lens.
But of course the Internet is obsessed by 10 extra mix nobody will never see, etc when one can still shoot excellent pictures with a 30 or 60 years old camera, a film and one MF lens.
This is not to say that I do not appreciate modern tools, I shoot with a A7r V amongst others, I clearly have GAS but I'm always amazed about long discussions about gear and nobody ever posting a picture.
there’s no ultimate agreement about which system is “best.” Fortunately, people mange to make great photographs with just about all of the options.
Well, there is a long lived agreement about people who shoot pictures: the system does not really matter, the photographer does and spending more time practicing, seeing exhibits and reading photo books is more important than changing camera or lens.
But of course the Internet is obsessed by 10 extra mix nobody will never see, etc when one can still shoot excellent pictures with a 30 or 60 years old camera, a film and one MF lens.
This is not to say that I do not appreciate modern tools, I shoot with a A7r V amongst others, I clearly have GAS but I'm always amazed about long discussions about gear and nobody ever posting a picture.
Aug 28, 2026 at 09:07 AM
p.4 #14Fujifilm or Sony APS-C for Travel?
aCuria wrote:
Reminds me of the 24-105 + 6D I used in the past. It’s almost the same weight as your 24-105 + R6ii
A7CR + 28–60 (682g)
OM-5 + 12–35mm f/2.8 G2 (719g)
A9III + 28–60 (870g)
R6II + RF 24–105mm f/4L (1,370g)
6D + EF 24–105mm f/4L (1,425g).
This is my setup: A7CR + 28–60 (682g) if I want zoom capability. But the 20-70mm f4 is usually on my A7CR if I'm traveling for "real" (as in, the purpose of the trip is photography).
Reminds me of the 24-105 + 6D I used in the past. It’s almost the same weight as your 24-105 + R6ii
A7CR + 28–60 (682g)
OM-5 + 12–35mm f/2.8 G2 (719g)
A9III + 28–60 (870g)
R6II + RF 24–105mm f/4L (1,370g)
6D + EF 24–105mm f/4L (1,425g).
This is my setup: A7CR + 28–60 (682g) if I want zoom capability. But the 20-70mm f4 is usually on my A7CR if I'm traveling for "real" (as in, the purpose of the trip is photography).
Aug 28, 2026 at 09:55 AM
p.4 #15Fujifilm or Sony APS-C for Travel?
pmeheut wrote:
Well, there is a long lived agreement about people who shoot pictures: the system does not really matter, the photographer does and spending more time practicing, seeing exhibits and reading photo books is more important than changing camera or lens.
But of course the Internet is obsessed by 10 extra mix nobody will never see, etc when one can still shoot excellent pictures with a 30 or 60 years old camera, a film and one MF lens.
This is not to say that I do not appreciate modern tools, I shoot with a A7r V amongst others, I clearly have GAS but...Show more →
Well there are dedicated photo threads for photos. It does also take time to dig up photos of the specified camera/lens combo, and there is also sample variation with lenses.
You can click www in my profile and find some photos, too. Haven't updated in about a year though!
gdanmitchell wrote
there’s no ultimate agreement about which system is “best.” Fortunately, people mange to make great photographs with just about all of the options.But of course the Internet is obsessed by 10 extra mix nobody will never see, etc when one can still shoot excellent pictures with a 30 or 60 years old camera, a film and one MF lens.
This is not to say that I do not appreciate modern tools, I shoot with a A7r V amongst others, I clearly have GAS but...Show more →
Well there are dedicated photo threads for photos. It does also take time to dig up photos of the specified camera/lens combo, and there is also sample variation with lenses.
You can click www in my profile and find some photos, too. Haven't updated in about a year though!
Aug 28, 2026 at 09:57 AM
p.4 #16Fujifilm or Sony APS-C for Travel?
pmeheut wrote:
I'm always amazed about long discussions about gear and nobody ever posting a picture.
If you think it will add to the discussion... I am happy to post some!
DSC04416 by acurian, on Flickr
Africa, EF 24-105/4L
DSC04146 by acurian, on Flickr
Africa, EF 24-105/4L
DSC06676 by acurian, on Flickr
Africa, EF 24-105/4L
DSC00987-DN by acurian, on Flickr
Africa, EF 150-600
7IV00239 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 200-600
7IV09740 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 16-35PZ
7IV08938 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 16-35PZ
7IV06926 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 16-35PZ
7IV05908 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 16-35PZ
7IV09314 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 16-35PZ
7IV09495 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 16-35PZ
7IV09731 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 16-35PZ
7IV09740 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 16-35PZ
I'm always amazed about long discussions about gear and nobody ever posting a picture.
If you think it will add to the discussion... I am happy to post some!
DSC04416 by acurian, on FlickrAfrica, EF 24-105/4L
DSC04146 by acurian, on FlickrAfrica, EF 24-105/4L
DSC06676 by acurian, on FlickrAfrica, EF 24-105/4L
DSC00987-DN by acurian, on FlickrAfrica, EF 150-600
7IV00239 by acurian, on FlickrJapan, 200-600
7IV09740 by acurian, on FlickrJapan, 16-35PZ
7IV08938 by acurian, on FlickrJapan, 16-35PZ
7IV06926 by acurian, on FlickrJapan, 16-35PZ
7IV05908 by acurian, on FlickrJapan, 16-35PZ
7IV09314 by acurian, on FlickrJapan, 16-35PZ
7IV09495 by acurian, on FlickrJapan, 16-35PZ
7IV09731 by acurian, on FlickrJapan, 16-35PZ
7IV09740 by acurian, on FlickrJapan, 16-35PZ
Aug 28, 2026 at 10:19 AM
p.4 #17Fujifilm or Sony APS-C for Travel?
RoseandCharles wrote:
Well there are dedicated photo threads for photos
I'm aware but my point was: why don't we illustrate what we say with pictures? As photographers, it seems obvious to show what we can do with gear X and not gear Y this way...
Well there are dedicated photo threads for photos
I'm aware but my point was: why don't we illustrate what we say with pictures? As photographers, it seems obvious to show what we can do with gear X and not gear Y this way...
Aug 28, 2026 at 10:57 AM
p.4 #18Fujifilm or Sony APS-C for Travel?
pmeheut wrote:
I'm aware but my point was: why don't we illustrate what we say with pictures? As photographers, it seems obvious to show what we can do with gear X and not gear Y this way...
It's tough. With broad shared capabilities between a wide range of lenses and cameras, the edge case differences can be hard to demonstrate and the "middle" common uses and scenarios are approaching impossible to find visual critical "gear" differences versus photographer's skill, part of which is choosing the right gear.
However, I'd think in asking about considering focal lengths and locations or some techniques, sure. Offer images. Like, "I'm going to XXX, and thinking of taking just the 20-70/4 (or 28-200 or 35/1.4) to have a light kit, any thoughts?"
Then, offering gear suggestions with samples seems a good idea.
RoseandCharles wrote
Well there are dedicated photo threads for photosIt's tough. With broad shared capabilities between a wide range of lenses and cameras, the edge case differences can be hard to demonstrate and the "middle" common uses and scenarios are approaching impossible to find visual critical "gear" differences versus photographer's skill, part of which is choosing the right gear.
However, I'd think in asking about considering focal lengths and locations or some techniques, sure. Offer images. Like, "I'm going to XXX, and thinking of taking just the 20-70/4 (or 28-200 or 35/1.4) to have a light kit, any thoughts?"
Then, offering gear suggestions with samples seems a good idea.
Aug 28, 2026 at 12:33 PM
p.4 #19Fujifilm or Sony APS-C for Travel?
pmeheut wrote:
Well, there is a long lived agreement about people who shoot pictures: the system does not really matter, the photographer does and spending more time practicing, seeing exhibits and reading photo books is more important than changing camera or lens.
But of course the Internet is obsessed by 10 extra mix nobody will never see, etc when one can still shoot excellent pictures with a 30 or 60 years old camera, a film and one MF lens.
This is not to say that I do not appreciate modern tools, I shoot with a A7r V amongst others, I clearly have GAS but...Show more →
Speaking as someone who started with film (had my first darkroom experiences as a pre-teen) and used it for decades before moving to digital…
…in practical terms, especially for travel, there are some real pluses to digital over film. Just dealing with the logistics of film (buying it, carrying lots of it around, dealing with airport x-ray machines, not being able to share while traveling, etc.) make it a far less convincing alternative for travel.
For travel, specifically, I think the modern tools are far superior. I’ve done both.
You most certainly can still make wonderful photographs with decades-old gear (though few are going to be interested in using the mid-20th century that some of us worked with). I know some excellent photographers who still work with optical/chemical photography. Of course, the all — literally every one of them — also use digital gear when it is more practical.
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aCuria wrote:
If you think it will add to the discussion... I am happy to post some!
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55493660443_e0dc70bd26_b.jpgDSC04416 by acurian, on Flickr
Africa, EF 24-105/4L
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55492558562_64fefaafa3_b.jpgDSC04146 by acurian, on Flickr
Africa, EF 24-105/4L
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55492573662_14060ce6b6_b.jpgDSC06676 by acurian, on Flickr
Africa, EF 24-105/4L
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55478971617_869b123675_b.jpgDSC00987-DN by acurian, on Flickr
Africa, EF 150-600
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54907215735_25c0033127_b.jpg7IV00239 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 200-600
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53949869869_8c46263a4d_b.jpg7IV09740 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 16-35PZ
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53949798963_871d72fcae_b.jpg7IV08938 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 16-35PZ
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53949545286_21d4d328af_b.jpg7IV06926 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 16-35PZ
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53949870079_abbbbc29a6_b.jpg7IV05908 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 16-35PZ
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53949999810_b7f7259a13_b.jpg7IV09314 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 16-35PZ
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53949545211_4c9ccd1355_b.jpg7IV09495 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 16-35PZ
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53949545221_e12444e270_b.jpg7IV09731 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 16-35PZ
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53949869869_8c46263a4d_b.jpg7IV09740 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 16-35PZ
While I sympathize with the concern about gear discussions that don’t seem photographically grounded…
… what you did here seems roughly equivalent to someone going into a discussion thread about esthetics issues in making photographs… and dumping a string of a baker’s dozen pictures of L—brackets, lens caps, remote releases, tripods, and filter holders.
gdanmitchell wrote
there’s no ultimate agreement about which system is “best.” Fortunately, people mange to make great photographs with just about all of the options.But of course the Internet is obsessed by 10 extra mix nobody will never see, etc when one can still shoot excellent pictures with a 30 or 60 years old camera, a film and one MF lens.
This is not to say that I do not appreciate modern tools, I shoot with a A7r V amongst others, I clearly have GAS but...Show more →
Speaking as someone who started with film (had my first darkroom experiences as a pre-teen) and used it for decades before moving to digital…
…in practical terms, especially for travel, there are some real pluses to digital over film. Just dealing with the logistics of film (buying it, carrying lots of it around, dealing with airport x-ray machines, not being able to share while traveling, etc.) make it a far less convincing alternative for travel.
For travel, specifically, I think the modern tools are far superior. I’ve done both.
You most certainly can still make wonderful photographs with decades-old gear (though few are going to be interested in using the mid-20th century that some of us worked with). I know some excellent photographers who still work with optical/chemical photography. Of course, the all — literally every one of them — also use digital gear when it is more practical.
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aCuria wrote:
pmeheut wrote
I'm always amazed about long discussions about gear and nobody ever posting a picture.https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55493660443_e0dc70bd26_b.jpgDSC04416 by acurian, on Flickr
Africa, EF 24-105/4L
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Africa, EF 24-105/4L
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Africa, EF 24-105/4L
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Africa, EF 150-600
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54907215735_25c0033127_b.jpg7IV00239 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 200-600
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53949869869_8c46263a4d_b.jpg7IV09740 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 16-35PZ
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Japan, 16-35PZ
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Japan, 16-35PZ
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53949870079_abbbbc29a6_b.jpg7IV05908 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 16-35PZ
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53949999810_b7f7259a13_b.jpg7IV09314 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 16-35PZ
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Japan, 16-35PZ
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53949545221_e12444e270_b.jpg7IV09731 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 16-35PZ
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53949869869_8c46263a4d_b.jpg7IV09740 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 16-35PZ
While I sympathize with the concern about gear discussions that don’t seem photographically grounded…
… what you did here seems roughly equivalent to someone going into a discussion thread about esthetics issues in making photographs… and dumping a string of a baker’s dozen pictures of L—brackets, lens caps, remote releases, tripods, and filter holders.
Aug 28, 2026 at 02:26 PM
p.4 #20Fujifilm or Sony APS-C for Travel?
gdanmitchell wrote:
Well, there is a long lived agreement about people who shoot pictures: the system does not really matter, the photographer does and spending more time practicing, seeing exhibits and reading photo books is more important than changing camera or lens.
But of course the Internet is obsessed by 10 extra mix nobody will never see, etc when one can still shoot excellent pictures with a 30 or 60 years old camera, a film and one MF lens.
This is not to say that I do not appreciate modern tools, I shoot with a A7r V amongst others, I clearly have GAS but I'm always amazed about long discussions about gear and nobody ever posting a picture.Speaking as someone who started with film (had my first darkroom experiences as a pre-teen) and used it for decades before moving to digital…
…in practical terms, especially for travel, there are some real pluses to digital over film. Just dealing with the logistics of film (buying it, carrying lots of it around, dealing with airport x-ray machines, not being able to share while traveling, etc.) make it a far less convincing alternative for travel.
For travel, specifically, I think the modern tools are far superior. I’ve done both.
You most certainly can still make wonderful photographs with decades-old gear (though few...Show more →If you think it will add to the discussion... I am happy to post some!
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Africa, EF 24-105/4L
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55492558562_64fefaafa3_b.jpgDSC04146 by acurian, on Flickr
Africa, EF 24-105/4L
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55492573662_14060ce6b6_b.jpgDSC06676 by acurian, on Flickr
Africa, EF 24-105/4L
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55478971617_869b123675_b.jpgDSC00987-DN by acurian, on Flickr
Africa, EF 150-600
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54907215735_25c0033127_b.jpg7IV00239 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 200-600
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53949869869_8c46263a4d_b.jpg7IV09740 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 16-35PZ
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53949798963_871d72fcae_b.jpg7IV08938 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 16-35PZ
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53949545286_21d4d328af_b.jpg7IV06926 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 16-35PZ
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53949870079_abbbbc29a6_b.jpg7IV05908 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 16-35PZ
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53949999810_b7f7259a13_b.jpg7IV09314 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 16-35PZ
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53949545211_4c9ccd1355_b.jpg7IV09495 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 16-35PZ
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53949545221_e12444e270_b.jpg7IV09731 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 16-35PZ
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53949869869_8c46263a4d_b.jpg7IV09740 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 16-35PZ
Well, someone had the opinion to that having some actual travel photos would be helpful for them so I obliged. Going into tangent about “we are talking about gear here” is tiring,
it’s an easier route to humor them and post some photos. Some people really value seeing the photos
pmeheut wrote
gdanmitchell wrote
there’s no ultimate agreement about which system is “best.” Fortunately, people mange to make great photographs with just about all of the options.But of course the Internet is obsessed by 10 extra mix nobody will never see, etc when one can still shoot excellent pictures with a 30 or 60 years old camera, a film and one MF lens.
This is not to say that I do not appreciate modern tools, I shoot with a A7r V amongst others, I clearly have GAS but I'm always amazed about long discussions about gear and nobody ever posting a picture.
…in practical terms, especially for travel, there are some real pluses to digital over film. Just dealing with the logistics of film (buying it, carrying lots of it around, dealing with airport x-ray machines, not being able to share while traveling, etc.) make it a far less convincing alternative for travel.
For travel, specifically, I think the modern tools are far superior. I’ve done both.
You most certainly can still make wonderful photographs with decades-old gear (though few...Show more →
aCuria wrote
pmeheut wrote
I'm always amazed about long discussions about gear and nobody ever posting a picture.https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55493660443_e0dc70bd26_b.jpgDSC04416 by acurian, on Flickr
Africa, EF 24-105/4L
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55492558562_64fefaafa3_b.jpgDSC04146 by acurian, on Flickr
Africa, EF 24-105/4L
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55492573662_14060ce6b6_b.jpgDSC06676 by acurian, on Flickr
Africa, EF 24-105/4L
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55478971617_869b123675_b.jpgDSC00987-DN by acurian, on Flickr
Africa, EF 150-600
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54907215735_25c0033127_b.jpg7IV00239 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 200-600
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53949869869_8c46263a4d_b.jpg7IV09740 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 16-35PZ
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53949798963_871d72fcae_b.jpg7IV08938 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 16-35PZ
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53949545286_21d4d328af_b.jpg7IV06926 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 16-35PZ
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53949870079_abbbbc29a6_b.jpg7IV05908 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 16-35PZ
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53949999810_b7f7259a13_b.jpg7IV09314 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 16-35PZ
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53949545211_4c9ccd1355_b.jpg7IV09495 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 16-35PZ
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53949545221_e12444e270_b.jpg7IV09731 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 16-35PZ
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53949869869_8c46263a4d_b.jpg7IV09740 by acurian, on Flickr
Japan, 16-35PZ
Well, someone had the opinion to that having some actual travel photos would be helpful for them so I obliged. Going into tangent about “we are talking about gear here” is tiring,
it’s an easier route to humor them and post some photos. Some people really value seeing the photos
Aug 28, 2026 at 07:13 PM