A7RVI MAX SHUTTER SPEED 1/8000
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jwpstl wrote:
The A7r VI is not Sony’s flagship camera.
In al seriousness though-
1/8000 is limiting and would seriously annoy me- Especially in a flag ship camera like this one.
If you have fast glass, you will loose some creative control in bright light.
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Yea your right- apparently its a 4500 dollar piece of garbage-
Call it or don’t call it any name you want- I agree with the OP its a pretty big issue to not include a shutter speed faster then 1/8000-
The A7r VI is not Sony’s flagship camera.
RustyRus wrote
Donzo98 wrote
I'm so happy I started this thread1/8000 is limiting and would seriously annoy me- Especially in a flag ship camera like this one.
If you have fast glass, you will loose some creative control in bright light.
- Yea your right- apparently its a 4500 dollar piece of garbage-
Call it or don’t call it any name you want- I agree with the OP its a pretty big issue to not include a shutter speed faster then 1/8000-
Jul 11, 2026 at 10:52 AM
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RustyRus wrote:
In al seriousness though-
1/8000 is limiting and would seriously annoy me- Especially in a flag ship camera like this one.
If you have fast glass, you will loose some creative control in bright light.
It annoyed me so much that I sold my A7R6 and went back to an A1II. I got good enough deals on each, that I didn’t lose any money at all.
Donzo98 wrote
I'm so happy I started this thread1/8000 is limiting and would seriously annoy me- Especially in a flag ship camera like this one.
If you have fast glass, you will loose some creative control in bright light.
It annoyed me so much that I sold my A7R6 and went back to an A1II. I got good enough deals on each, that I didn’t lose any money at all.
Jul 11, 2026 at 11:06 AM
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So, please don’t buy the A7R6 if you mainly shoot humming birds/fast moving birds, propellers at fast shutter speeds, swinging clubs, or bats. Also, don’t buy it if you shoot in bright sunlight without an ND filter @ f/1.4 or wider. So many pages devoted to making the same point over and over. Again, this isn’t an A9iii, or A1ii. Personally, I would have purchased an A1ii if I wanted these features in my camera. Of course, I don’t shoot birds, but I do shoot clays.
Jul 11, 2026 at 11:45 AM
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RoamingScott wrote:
Thread #49,245 in which because the Oldhead Council has never done or needed something, no one should do or need that thing either.
It's more like not buying a particular vehicle because it doesn't have the right cup holder.
EBH
Thread #49,245 in which because the Oldhead Council has never done or needed something, no one should do or need that thing either.
It's more like not buying a particular vehicle because it doesn't have the right cup holder.
EBH
Jul 12, 2026 at 08:26 AM
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EB-1 wrote:
It's more like not buying a particular vehicle because it doesn't have the right cup holder.
EBH
Cup holders are important...
RoamingScott wrote
Thread #49,245 in which because the Oldhead Council has never done or needed something, no one should do or need that thing either.EBH
Cup holders are important...
Jul 12, 2026 at 08:46 AM
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Some folks seem to think that any camera is deficient if it doesn’t have at least the speed of the A1ii, the resolution of the fujifilm GFX, and a price of its predecessor from five years ago.
Meanwhile, back in reality…
Meanwhile, back in reality…
Jul 12, 2026 at 09:42 AM
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EB-1 wrote:
It's more like not buying a particular vehicle because it doesn't have the right cup holder.
EBH
Yea- Because shutter speed isn’t part of the exposure triangle or anything important like that…..
RoamingScott wrote
Thread #49,245 in which because the Oldhead Council has never done or needed something, no one should do or need that thing either.EBH
Yea- Because shutter speed isn’t part of the exposure triangle or anything important like that…..
Jul 12, 2026 at 12:03 PM
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RustyRus wrote:
It's more like not buying a particular vehicle because it doesn't have the right cup holder.
EBHYea- Because shutter speed isn’t part of the exposure triangle or anything important like that…..
I agree with you man... but everyone is entitled to their opinion.
EB-1 wrote
RoamingScott wrote
Thread #49,245 in which because the Oldhead Council has never done or needed something, no one should do or need that thing either.EBH
I agree with you man... but everyone is entitled to their opinion. Jul 12, 2026 at 12:48 PM
p.3 #9A7RVI MAX SHUTTER SPEED 1/8000
RustyRus wrote:
It's more like not buying a particular vehicle because it doesn't have the right cup holder.
EBHYea- Because shutter speed isn’t part of the exposure triangle or anything important like that…..
Shutter speed is important, but some us just would never use the faster shutter speed. My current camera shoots 1/32,000 in electronic shutter mode. Before that I had the Sony A1 and it too shoots 1/32,000 in electronic shutter mode. So, I have had that capability for about 5 years. How many times have I shot with a shutter speed faster than 1/8000? For me it is zero. I just checked. And I have two lenses that are f/1.2 and have had 8 lenses during that time that are f/1.4. So, it could be relevant for my shooting. It just turns out that it isn't. So for me it is a feature that is there, but which I will probably never use. Obviously, in my case, I don't rate it as very important.
I am not saying it isn't important to others. It very well may be, but it isn't important to me.
EB-1 wrote
RoamingScott wrote
Thread #49,245 in which because the Oldhead Council has never done or needed something, no one should do or need that thing either.EBH
Shutter speed is important, but some us just would never use the faster shutter speed. My current camera shoots 1/32,000 in electronic shutter mode. Before that I had the Sony A1 and it too shoots 1/32,000 in electronic shutter mode. So, I have had that capability for about 5 years. How many times have I shot with a shutter speed faster than 1/8000? For me it is zero. I just checked. And I have two lenses that are f/1.2 and have had 8 lenses during that time that are f/1.4. So, it could be relevant for my shooting. It just turns out that it isn't. So for me it is a feature that is there, but which I will probably never use. Obviously, in my case, I don't rate it as very important.
I am not saying it isn't important to others. It very well may be, but it isn't important to me.
Jul 12, 2026 at 12:49 PM
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RustyRus wrote:
It's more like not buying a particular vehicle because it doesn't have the right cup holder.
EBHYea- Because shutter speed isn’t part of the exposure triangle or anything important like that…..
Of course it is, but the use of a neutral density filter fixes the problem, so the A7Rvi can be used and you benefit from whatever else you might value in the A7Rvi. Now, if you shoot fast moving birds, propellers at fast shutter speeds, or fast moving bats, balls and clubs .. there isn’t a fix other than using another camera. So, in this way the 1/8000 second limit is much less of an issue than the rolling shutter challenge.
EB-1 wrote
RoamingScott wrote
Thread #49,245 in which because the Oldhead Council has never done or needed something, no one should do or need that thing either.EBH
Of course it is, but the use of a neutral density filter fixes the problem, so the A7Rvi can be used and you benefit from whatever else you might value in the A7Rvi. Now, if you shoot fast moving birds, propellers at fast shutter speeds, or fast moving bats, balls and clubs .. there isn’t a fix other than using another camera. So, in this way the 1/8000 second limit is much less of an issue than the rolling shutter challenge.
Jul 12, 2026 at 01:56 PM
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RustyRus wrote:
It's more like not buying a particular vehicle because it doesn't have the right cup holder.
EBHYea- Because shutter speed isn’t part of the exposure triangle or anything important like that…..
By that logic, no shutter speed is fast enough?
Also, no aperture is large enough, and no ISO is ever high enough.
;-)
EB-1 wrote
RoamingScott wrote
Thread #49,245 in which because the Oldhead Council has never done or needed something, no one should do or need that thing either.EBH
By that logic, no shutter speed is fast enough?
Also, no aperture is large enough, and no ISO is ever high enough.
;-)
Jul 12, 2026 at 02:27 PM
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bwcolor wrote:
It's more like not buying a particular vehicle because it doesn't have the right cup holder.
EBHYea- Because shutter speed isn’t part of the exposure triangle or anything important like that…..Of course it is, but the use of a neutral density filter fixes the problem, so the A7Rvi can be used and you benefit from whatever else you might value in the A7Rvi. Now, if you shoot fast moving birds, propellers at fast shutter speeds, or fast moving bats, balls and clubs .. there isn’t a fix other than using another camera. So, in this way the 1/8000 second limit is much less of an issue than the rolling shutter challenge.
Of course you can use an ND filter- His issue is with a 4500 dollar camera released in 2026 that doesn't support ES faster than 1/8000 of a second and sold it-
Not sure why everyone wants to argue about features other people want by spinning workarounds or flat out saying he doesn't need it.
RustyRus wrote
EB-1 wrote
RoamingScott wrote
Thread #49,245 in which because the Oldhead Council has never done or needed something, no one should do or need that thing either.EBH
Of course you can use an ND filter- His issue is with a 4500 dollar camera released in 2026 that doesn't support ES faster than 1/8000 of a second and sold it-
Not sure why everyone wants to argue about features other people want by spinning workarounds or flat out saying he doesn't need it.
Jul 12, 2026 at 02:48 PM
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Donzo98 wrote:
It's more like not buying a particular vehicle because it doesn't have the right cup holder.
EBHYea- Because shutter speed isn’t part of the exposure triangle or anything important like that….. I agree with you man... but everyone is entitled to their opinion.
HAHA-
Most peoples opinion just boil down to they don't need it, why should you. You got rid of this camera because of it so........
RustyRus wrote
EB-1 wrote
RoamingScott wrote
Thread #49,245 in which because the Oldhead Council has never done or needed something, no one should do or need that thing either.EBH
I agree with you man... but everyone is entitled to their opinion. HAHA-
Most peoples opinion just boil down to they don't need it, why should you. You got rid of this camera because of it so........
Jul 12, 2026 at 02:52 PM
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bwcolor wrote:
It's more like not buying a particular vehicle because it doesn't have the right cup holder.
EBHYea- Because shutter speed isn’t part of the exposure triangle or anything important like that…..Of course it is, but the use of a neutral density filter fixes the problem, so the A7Rvi can be used and you benefit from whatever else you might value in the A7Rvi. Now, if you shoot fast moving birds, propellers at fast shutter speeds, or fast moving bats, balls and clubs .. there isn’t a fix other than using another camera. So, in this way the 1/8000 second limit is much less of an issue than the rolling shutter challenge.
Exactly…the 1/8000 limit has a fix so it’s a non issue unless one goes around constantly shooting 1.2 lenses wide open in blaring sun. If it’s only needed occasionally, the ND filter is a simple fix…which then allows the photographer the use of the other advanced features of the A7r6.
RustyRus wrote
EB-1 wrote
RoamingScott wrote
Thread #49,245 in which because the Oldhead Council has never done or needed something, no one should do or need that thing either.EBH
Exactly…the 1/8000 limit has a fix so it’s a non issue unless one goes around constantly shooting 1.2 lenses wide open in blaring sun. If it’s only needed occasionally, the ND filter is a simple fix…which then allows the photographer the use of the other advanced features of the A7r6.
Jul 12, 2026 at 03:06 PM
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Steve Spencer wrote:
It's more like not buying a particular vehicle because it doesn't have the right cup holder.
EBHYea- Because shutter speed isn’t part of the exposure triangle or anything important like that…..Shutter speed is important, but some us just would never use the faster shutter speed. My current camera shoots 1/32,000 in electronic shutter mode. Before that I had the Sony A1 and it too shoots 1/32,000 in electronic shutter mode. So, I have had that capability for about 5 years. How many times have I shot with a shutter speed faster than 1/8000? For me it is zero. I just checked. And I have two lenses that are f/1.2 and have had 8 lenses during that time that are f/1.4. So, it could be relevant for my shooting. It...Show more →
I just did the same- I actually found way more than I expected in the range of 1/12800 - 1/32000 - Lots on the M11/M11-P at 1/16000 and the rest on the Canon R5mk2-
I don't love blown out background shots - but daylight shots wide open that show vignetting and the lens character during the day-
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RustyRus wrote
EB-1 wrote
RoamingScott wrote
Thread #49,245 in which because the Oldhead Council has never done or needed something, no one should do or need that thing either.EBH
I just did the same- I actually found way more than I expected in the range of 1/12800 - 1/32000 - Lots on the M11/M11-P at 1/16000 and the rest on the Canon R5mk2-
I don't love blown out background shots - but daylight shots wide open that show vignetting and the lens character during the day-
Edited on Jul 12, 2026 at 03:10 PM · View previous versions
Jul 12, 2026 at 03:06 PM
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RustyRus wrote:
It's more like not buying a particular vehicle because it doesn't have the right cup holder.
EBHYea- Because shutter speed isn’t part of the exposure triangle or anything important like that…..Of course it is, but the use of a neutral density filter fixes the problem, so the A7Rvi can be used and you benefit from whatever else you might value in the A7Rvi. Now, if you shoot fast moving birds, propellers at fast shutter speeds, or fast moving bats, balls and clubs .. there isn’t a fix other than using another camera. So, in this way the 1/8000 second limit is much less of an issue than the rolling shutter challenge.Of course you can use an ND filter- His issue is with a 4500 dollar camera released in 2026 that doesn't support ES faster than 1/8000 of a second and sold it-
Not sure why everyone wants to argue about features other people want by spinning workarounds or flat out saying he doesn't need it.
Surely the 1/8000 limit was part of the spec…maybe if that limit was so important…he should have not even looked at the camera. Weight is important to me…I will never look at a camera weighing over 800gm no matter what features it’s got.
bwcolor wrote
RustyRus wrote
EB-1 wrote
RoamingScott wrote
Thread #49,245 in which because the Oldhead Council has never done or needed something, no one should do or need that thing either.EBH
Not sure why everyone wants to argue about features other people want by spinning workarounds or flat out saying he doesn't need it.
Surely the 1/8000 limit was part of the spec…maybe if that limit was so important…he should have not even looked at the camera. Weight is important to me…I will never look at a camera weighing over 800gm no matter what features it’s got.
Jul 12, 2026 at 03:10 PM
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RustyRus wrote:
It's more like not buying a particular vehicle because it doesn't have the right cup holder.
EBHYea- Because shutter speed isn’t part of the exposure triangle or anything important like that…..Shutter speed is important, but some us just would never use the faster shutter speed. My current camera shoots 1/32,000 in electronic shutter mode. Before that I had the Sony A1 and it too shoots 1/32,000 in electronic shutter mode. So, I have had that capability for about 5 years. How many times have I shot with a shutter speed faster than 1/8000? For me it is zero. I just checked. And I have two lenses that are f/1.2 and have had 8 lenses during that time that are f/1.4. So, it could be relevant for my shooting. It just turns out that it isn't. So for me it is a feature that is there, but which I will probably never use. Obviously, in my case, I don't rate it as very important.
I am not saying it isn't important to others. It very well may be, but it isn't important to me.I just did the same- I actually found way more than I expected in the range of 1/12800 - 1/32000 - Lots on the M11/M11-P at 1/16000 and the rest on the Canon R5mk2-
I don't love blown out background shots - but daylight shots wide open that show vignetting and the lens character during the day-
We all have our preferences. I hate bright/harsh light. I basically don't shoot in it, so that is part of the reason I don't think I ever use such fast shutter speeds. I also typically stop down my f/1.2 and f/1.4 lenses to f/2 as I often have these sense for the look at f/2 that I often prefer the look of f/2 lenses at f/2. I shoot fast lenses at wider apertures or wide open largely when the light is lower. These factors together is probably why I don't ever exceed 1/8000 for shutter speed.
I did have a Leica M10, however, and that camera as you probably know has a base ISO of 200 and a max shutter speed of 1/4000. On it there were times I had to stop down or add an ND filter to avoid over exposure at 1/4000 (I often shot f/1.4 lenses on it). There was a huge change from the Leica M10 to Leica M11 in what exposures were possible. The Leica M11 has a base ISO of 64 and a top shutter speed of 1/32,000. It can handle an exposure with 4 and 2/3rds brighter light than the Leica M10. I wouldn't have needed anything close to that, but I like the two stops that a base ISO of 100 and a top shutter speed of 1/8000 provide over what I could do with the Leica M10.
Steve Spencer wrote
RustyRus wrote
EB-1 wrote
RoamingScott wrote
Thread #49,245 in which because the Oldhead Council has never done or needed something, no one should do or need that thing either.EBH
I am not saying it isn't important to others. It very well may be, but it isn't important to me.
I don't love blown out background shots - but daylight shots wide open that show vignetting and the lens character during the day-
We all have our preferences. I hate bright/harsh light. I basically don't shoot in it, so that is part of the reason I don't think I ever use such fast shutter speeds. I also typically stop down my f/1.2 and f/1.4 lenses to f/2 as I often have these sense for the look at f/2 that I often prefer the look of f/2 lenses at f/2. I shoot fast lenses at wider apertures or wide open largely when the light is lower. These factors together is probably why I don't ever exceed 1/8000 for shutter speed.
I did have a Leica M10, however, and that camera as you probably know has a base ISO of 200 and a max shutter speed of 1/4000. On it there were times I had to stop down or add an ND filter to avoid over exposure at 1/4000 (I often shot f/1.4 lenses on it). There was a huge change from the Leica M10 to Leica M11 in what exposures were possible. The Leica M11 has a base ISO of 64 and a top shutter speed of 1/32,000. It can handle an exposure with 4 and 2/3rds brighter light than the Leica M10. I wouldn't have needed anything close to that, but I like the two stops that a base ISO of 100 and a top shutter speed of 1/8000 provide over what I could do with the Leica M10.
Jul 12, 2026 at 03:23 PM
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chez wrote:
It's more like not buying a particular vehicle because it doesn't have the right cup holder.
EBHYea- Because shutter speed isn’t part of the exposure triangle or anything important like that…..Of course it is, but the use of a neutral density filter fixes the problem, so the A7Rvi can be used and you benefit from whatever else you might value in the A7Rvi. Now, if you shoot fast moving birds, propellers at fast shutter speeds, or fast moving bats, balls and clubs .. there isn’t a fix other than using another camera. So, in this way the 1/8000 second limit is much less of an issue than the rolling shutter challenge.Of course you can use an ND filter- His issue is with a 4500 dollar camera released in 2026 that doesn't support ES faster than 1/8000 of a second and sold it-
Not sure why everyone wants to argue about features other people want by spinning workarounds or flat out saying he doesn't need it.Surely the 1/8000 limit was part of the spec…maybe if that limit was so important…he should have not even looked at the camera. Weight is important to me…I will never look at a camera weighing over 800gm no matter what features it’s got.
The A1II is what I'm using now...and weight is important to me as well. Pretty much identical in size and weight to the A7RVI.
You're right... I shouldn't have bought the camera, but I honestly didn't know the max speed was 1/8000. Luckily... I didn't lose any money on the swap. If I was losing significant money, I probably would have lived with the 1/8000.
RustyRus wrote
bwcolor wrote
RustyRus wrote
EB-1 wrote
RoamingScott wrote
Thread #49,245 in which because the Oldhead Council has never done or needed something, no one should do or need that thing either.EBH
Not sure why everyone wants to argue about features other people want by spinning workarounds or flat out saying he doesn't need it.
The A1II is what I'm using now...and weight is important to me as well. Pretty much identical in size and weight to the A7RVI.
You're right... I shouldn't have bought the camera, but I honestly didn't know the max speed was 1/8000. Luckily... I didn't lose any money on the swap. If I was losing significant money, I probably would have lived with the 1/8000.
Jul 12, 2026 at 03:27 PM
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RustyRus wrote:
It's more like not buying a particular vehicle because it doesn't have the right cup holder.
EBHYea- Because shutter speed isn’t part of the exposure triangle or anything important like that…..Of course it is, but the use of a neutral density filter fixes the problem, so the A7Rvi can be used and you benefit from whatever else you might value in the A7Rvi. Now, if you shoot fast moving birds, propellers at fast shutter speeds, or fast moving bats, balls and clubs .. there isn’t a fix other than using another camera. So, in this way the 1/8000 second limit is much less of an issue than the rolling shutter challenge.Of course you can use an ND filter- His issue is with a 4500 dollar camera released in 2026 that doesn't support ES faster than 1/8000 of a second and sold it-
Not sure why everyone wants to argue about features other people want by spinning workarounds or flat out saying he doesn't need it.
Didn’t see the “he” post, so I didn’t realize that we were addressing a single person and their complaint. If the camera was already sold, nothing can be said.
bwcolor wrote
RustyRus wrote
EB-1 wrote
RoamingScott wrote
Thread #49,245 in which because the Oldhead Council has never done or needed something, no one should do or need that thing either.EBH
Not sure why everyone wants to argue about features other people want by spinning workarounds or flat out saying he doesn't need it.
Didn’t see the “he” post, so I didn’t realize that we were addressing a single person and their complaint. If the camera was already sold, nothing can be said.
Jul 12, 2026 at 04:31 PM