A7RVI MAX SHUTTER SPEED 1/8000
p.2 #1A7RVI MAX SHUTTER SPEED 1/8000
I'm not at all sure that 1/8000 with ISO 50 with the mechanical shutter wouldn't be just as good of an image or even a better image than 1/16000 and ISO 100 with the electronic shutter and of course they would be the same exposure. Remember the electronic shutter will cause you a hit in dynamic range on this camera. Someone could begin to address this issue by comparing 1/4000 and ISO 50 with the mechanical shutter to 1/8000 and ISO 100 with the electronic shutter. I would actually expect that going with the mechanical shutter and ISO 50 and 1/4000 will probably get you a better image. So most of the time you would probably be better not using that 1/16000 on the electronic shutter anyway. 1/32000 is even more of an edge case and probably requires the faster sensor scan speed of the A1 II.
So, I am guessing this is a tempest in a tea pot and the 1/8000 limit on the electronic shutter isn't likely to be a big deal for almost anyone as they are better off using 1/8000 and the mechanical shutter and ISO 50 than 1/16000 on the electronic shutter.
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So, I am guessing this is a tempest in a tea pot and the 1/8000 limit on the electronic shutter isn't likely to be a big deal for almost anyone as they are better off using 1/8000 and the mechanical shutter and ISO 50 than 1/16000 on the electronic shutter.
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Jul 10, 2026 at 11:23 AM
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p.2 #2A7RVI MAX SHUTTER SPEED 1/8000
ISO 50 isn't "real", nor does it behave like a "real" base ISO 50 would, so either way, you should have put a 3 stop ND on before this conversation even started 
Jul 10, 2026 at 11:39 AM
p.2 #3A7RVI MAX SHUTTER SPEED 1/8000
RoamingScott wrote:
ISO 50 isn't "real", nor does it behave like a "real" base ISO 50 would, so either way, you should have put a 3 stop ND on before this conversation even started
That is true, but it is also true that with this camera base ISO 100 with the electronic shutter isn't the same as base ISO 100 with the mechanical shutter. People who are asking for the faster electronic shutter don't seem to be recognizing that. The real question is whether the highlights will blow out more with 1/8000 and ISO 50 with the mechanical shutter or 1/16000 with the electronic shutter. I am not sure that answer to that is as obvious as people asking for the faster electronic shutter seem to be assuming.
An yes an ND filter is a lot better way to go if you don't want to stop down and face these situations often.
ISO 50 isn't "real", nor does it behave like a "real" base ISO 50 would, so either way, you should have put a 3 stop ND on before this conversation even started
That is true, but it is also true that with this camera base ISO 100 with the electronic shutter isn't the same as base ISO 100 with the mechanical shutter. People who are asking for the faster electronic shutter don't seem to be recognizing that. The real question is whether the highlights will blow out more with 1/8000 and ISO 50 with the mechanical shutter or 1/16000 with the electronic shutter. I am not sure that answer to that is as obvious as people asking for the faster electronic shutter seem to be assuming.
An yes an ND filter is a lot better way to go if you don't want to stop down and face these situations often.
Jul 10, 2026 at 11:47 AM
p.2 #4A7RVI MAX SHUTTER SPEED 1/8000
Donzo98 wrote:
I was very surprised to see the max shutter speed was only 1/8000 even in electronic shutter. I don't see many posts that mention it...
I have needed more than 1/8000 occasionally.... and I was happy to have up to 1/32000 on my A1/II.
Does this bother anyone??
Nope. If this for engineering or sport maybe get the A9 III.
I don't recall ever needing to go much over over 1/4000 in the last 50 years.
I hope to use my a7RVI at 1/60 MS where possible for best IQ.
EBH
I was very surprised to see the max shutter speed was only 1/8000 even in electronic shutter. I don't see many posts that mention it...
I have needed more than 1/8000 occasionally.... and I was happy to have up to 1/32000 on my A1/II.
Does this bother anyone??
Nope. If this for engineering or sport maybe get the A9 III.
I don't recall ever needing to go much over over 1/4000 in the last 50 years.
I hope to use my a7RVI at 1/60 MS where possible for best IQ.
EBH
Jul 10, 2026 at 11:56 AM
p.2 #5A7RVI MAX SHUTTER SPEED 1/8000
Most of my f/1.2 & f/1.4 lenses are used on film cameras and many have a maximum shutter speed of 1/1000 sec. Adding an ND filter is a simple process.
Jul 10, 2026 at 03:36 PM
p.2 #6A7RVI MAX SHUTTER SPEED 1/8000
EB-1 wrote:
I have needed more than 1/8000 occasionally.... and I was happy to have up to 1/32000 on my A1/II.
Does this bother anyone??Nope. If this for engineering or sport maybe get the A9 III.
I don't recall ever needing to go much over over 1/4000 in the last 50 years.
I hope to use my a7RVI at 1/60 MS where possible for best IQ.
EBH
That is weird, because I haven't been alive 50 years, and only started photography in 2018...and I could think of a day just off the top of my head when I needed 1/8000. It was with the 135 1.8. Snow and the sun.
https://uadarthmaul.smugmug.com/Elli-in-the-snow
Donzo98 wrote
I was very surprised to see the max shutter speed was only 1/8000 even in electronic shutter. I don't see many posts that mention it...I have needed more than 1/8000 occasionally.... and I was happy to have up to 1/32000 on my A1/II.
Does this bother anyone??
I don't recall ever needing to go much over over 1/4000 in the last 50 years.
I hope to use my a7RVI at 1/60 MS where possible for best IQ.
EBH
That is weird, because I haven't been alive 50 years, and only started photography in 2018...and I could think of a day just off the top of my head when I needed 1/8000. It was with the 135 1.8. Snow and the sun.
https://uadarthmaul.smugmug.com/Elli-in-the-snow
Jul 10, 2026 at 07:26 PM
p.2 #7A7RVI MAX SHUTTER SPEED 1/8000
Besides ND filters, there is the option to use f/2 or f/2.8 or f/4, etc.
Jul 10, 2026 at 08:07 PM
p.2 #8A7RVI MAX SHUTTER SPEED 1/8000
RoamingScott wrote:
One of the big perks of my FULLY stacked (not the marketing stacked) sensor camera is shooting my f/1.2 glass wide open midday with no ND needed. My $1200 camera can do work at 1/8000
Yeah I agree, but I'm used to CPL, so that's my solution.
One of the big perks of my FULLY stacked (not the marketing stacked) sensor camera is shooting my f/1.2 glass wide open midday with no ND needed. My $1200 camera can do work at 1/8000
Yeah I agree, but I'm used to CPL, so that's my solution.
Jul 10, 2026 at 08:30 PM
p.2 #9A7RVI MAX SHUTTER SPEED 1/8000
shadow9d9 wrote:
I have needed more than 1/8000 occasionally.... and I was happy to have up to 1/32000 on my A1/II.
Does this bother anyone??Nope. If this for engineering or sport maybe get the A9 III.
I don't recall ever needing to go much over over 1/4000 in the last 50 years.
I hope to use my a7RVI at 1/60 MS where possible for best IQ.
EBHThat is weird, because I haven't been alive 50 years, and only started photography in 2018...and I could think of a day just off the top of my head when I needed 1/8000. It was with the 135 1.8. Snow and the sun.
https://uadarthmaul.smugmug.com/Elli-in-the-snow
Until recently the max shutter was 1/8000 for many of the cameras…and everyone seemed to manage taking photos in snow and sun.
EB-1 wrote
Donzo98 wrote
I was very surprised to see the max shutter speed was only 1/8000 even in electronic shutter. I don't see many posts that mention it...I have needed more than 1/8000 occasionally.... and I was happy to have up to 1/32000 on my A1/II.
Does this bother anyone??
I don't recall ever needing to go much over over 1/4000 in the last 50 years.
I hope to use my a7RVI at 1/60 MS where possible for best IQ.
EBH
https://uadarthmaul.smugmug.com/Elli-in-the-snow
Until recently the max shutter was 1/8000 for many of the cameras…and everyone seemed to manage taking photos in snow and sun.
Jul 10, 2026 at 08:40 PM
p.2 #10A7RVI MAX SHUTTER SPEED 1/8000
chez wrote:
I have needed more than 1/8000 occasionally.... and I was happy to have up to 1/32000 on my A1/II.
Does this bother anyone??Nope. If this for engineering or sport maybe get the A9 III.
I don't recall ever needing to go much over over 1/4000 in the last 50 years.
I hope to use my a7RVI at 1/60 MS where possible for best IQ.
EBHThat is weird, because I haven't been alive 50 years, and only started photography in 2018...and I could think of a day just off the top of my head when I needed 1/8000. It was with the 135 1.8. Snow and the sun.
https://uadarthmaul.smugmug.com/Elli-in-the-snowUntil recently the max shutter was 1/8000 for many of the cameras…and everyone seemed to manage taking photos in snow and sun.
That is a weak argument, because it could also be used to argue that we should still be at 1fps, or manual only, etc, since people did it for decades fine. People are allowed to enjoy the advancement of technology and the ease and comforts that come with it.
shadow9d9 wrote
EB-1 wrote
Donzo98 wrote
I was very surprised to see the max shutter speed was only 1/8000 even in electronic shutter. I don't see many posts that mention it...I have needed more than 1/8000 occasionally.... and I was happy to have up to 1/32000 on my A1/II.
Does this bother anyone??
I don't recall ever needing to go much over over 1/4000 in the last 50 years.
I hope to use my a7RVI at 1/60 MS where possible for best IQ.
EBH
https://uadarthmaul.smugmug.com/Elli-in-the-snow
That is a weak argument, because it could also be used to argue that we should still be at 1fps, or manual only, etc, since people did it for decades fine. People are allowed to enjoy the advancement of technology and the ease and comforts that come with it.
Jul 10, 2026 at 08:54 PM
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p.2 #11A7RVI MAX SHUTTER SPEED 1/8000
shadow9d9 wrote:
I have needed more than 1/8000 occasionally.... and I was happy to have up to 1/32000 on my A1/II.
Does this bother anyone??Nope. If this for engineering or sport maybe get the A9 III.
I don't recall ever needing to go much over over 1/4000 in the last 50 years.
I hope to use my a7RVI at 1/60 MS where possible for best IQ.
EBHThat is weird, because I haven't been alive 50 years, and only started photography in 2018...and I could think of a day just off the top of my head when I needed 1/8000. It was with the 135 1.8. Snow and the sun.
https://uadarthmaul.smugmug.com/Elli-in-the-snowUntil recently the max shutter was 1/8000 for many of the cameras…and everyone seemed to manage taking photos in snow and sun.That is a weak argument, because it could also be used to argue that we should still be at 1fps, or manual only, etc, since people did it for decades fine. People are allowed to enjoy the advancement of technology and the ease and comforts that come with it.
No one is disallowing the enjoyment of the advancements of technology. Faster fps, auto settings, etc. are great features. I think the argument is simply that not every camera needs to have every feature, or the maximum of every feature, in order to be very useful. People are allowed to enjoy the fastest cars on Earth, but not every car needs to be the fastest car on Earth in order to be very useful.
chez wrote
shadow9d9 wrote
EB-1 wrote
Donzo98 wrote
I was very surprised to see the max shutter speed was only 1/8000 even in electronic shutter. I don't see many posts that mention it...I have needed more than 1/8000 occasionally.... and I was happy to have up to 1/32000 on my A1/II.
Does this bother anyone??
I don't recall ever needing to go much over over 1/4000 in the last 50 years.
I hope to use my a7RVI at 1/60 MS where possible for best IQ.
EBH
https://uadarthmaul.smugmug.com/Elli-in-the-snow
No one is disallowing the enjoyment of the advancements of technology. Faster fps, auto settings, etc. are great features. I think the argument is simply that not every camera needs to have every feature, or the maximum of every feature, in order to be very useful. People are allowed to enjoy the fastest cars on Earth, but not every car needs to be the fastest car on Earth in order to be very useful.
Jul 10, 2026 at 09:50 PM
p.2 #12A7RVI MAX SHUTTER SPEED 1/8000
shadow9d9 wrote:
I have needed more than 1/8000 occasionally.... and I was happy to have up to 1/32000 on my A1/II.
Does this bother anyone??Nope. If this for engineering or sport maybe get the A9 III.
I don't recall ever needing to go much over over 1/4000 in the last 50 years.
I hope to use my a7RVI at 1/60 MS where possible for best IQ.
EBHThat is weird, because I haven't been alive 50 years, and only started photography in 2018...and I could think of a day just off the top of my head when I needed 1/8000. It was with the 135 1.8. Snow and the sun.
https://uadarthmaul.smugmug.com/Elli-in-the-snow
I'm sure people can find some unusual usages, but that's easily avoided if you went with longer lens/smaller apertures or a simple ND filter. Action typically doesn't need the high IQ an a7R delivers. You could get by with lower quality and higher speed for most customers of dog ability.
EBH
EB-1 wrote
Donzo98 wrote
I was very surprised to see the max shutter speed was only 1/8000 even in electronic shutter. I don't see many posts that mention it...I have needed more than 1/8000 occasionally.... and I was happy to have up to 1/32000 on my A1/II.
Does this bother anyone??
I don't recall ever needing to go much over over 1/4000 in the last 50 years.
I hope to use my a7RVI at 1/60 MS where possible for best IQ.
EBH
https://uadarthmaul.smugmug.com/Elli-in-the-snow
I'm sure people can find some unusual usages, but that's easily avoided if you went with longer lens/smaller apertures or a simple ND filter. Action typically doesn't need the high IQ an a7R delivers. You could get by with lower quality and higher speed for most customers of dog ability.
EBH
Jul 10, 2026 at 10:44 PM
p.2 #13A7RVI MAX SHUTTER SPEED 1/8000
shadow9d9 wrote:
I have needed more than 1/8000 occasionally.... and I was happy to have up to 1/32000 on my A1/II.
Does this bother anyone??Nope. If this for engineering or sport maybe get the A9 III.
I don't recall ever needing to go much over over 1/4000 in the last 50 years.
I hope to use my a7RVI at 1/60 MS where possible for best IQ.
EBHThat is weird, because I haven't been alive 50 years, and only started photography in 2018...and I could think of a day just off the top of my head when I needed 1/8000. It was with the 135 1.8. Snow and the sun.
https://uadarthmaul.smugmug.com/Elli-in-the-snow
The point isn’t that there never has been a case where 1/8000 second was needed. Sunny 16 in full sunlight @ 100 ISO needs 1/8000 @ f/1.8. The point is, some of us prefer to use an “R’ camera.. I sold my ‘A” for higher resolution once I no longer shot field sports.. I also have been in photography since the mid 1960s and haven’t needed shutter speeds shorter than 1/8000. I have multiple f/1.2 and f/1.4 lenses used on film cameras and I routinely use ND filters here. I don’t have a ND for the FE 50-150mm f/2.0 GM. Given the expense of such a large ND filter, this will be my first lens where I’ll be shooting at close to 1/8000 second. BTW.. really nice images of your dog.
EB-1 wrote
Donzo98 wrote
I was very surprised to see the max shutter speed was only 1/8000 even in electronic shutter. I don't see many posts that mention it...I have needed more than 1/8000 occasionally.... and I was happy to have up to 1/32000 on my A1/II.
Does this bother anyone??
I don't recall ever needing to go much over over 1/4000 in the last 50 years.
I hope to use my a7RVI at 1/60 MS where possible for best IQ.
EBH
https://uadarthmaul.smugmug.com/Elli-in-the-snow
The point isn’t that there never has been a case where 1/8000 second was needed. Sunny 16 in full sunlight @ 100 ISO needs 1/8000 @ f/1.8. The point is, some of us prefer to use an “R’ camera.. I sold my ‘A” for higher resolution once I no longer shot field sports.. I also have been in photography since the mid 1960s and haven’t needed shutter speeds shorter than 1/8000. I have multiple f/1.2 and f/1.4 lenses used on film cameras and I routinely use ND filters here. I don’t have a ND for the FE 50-150mm f/2.0 GM. Given the expense of such a large ND filter, this will be my first lens where I’ll be shooting at close to 1/8000 second. BTW.. really nice images of your dog.
Jul 11, 2026 at 05:44 AM
p.2 #14A7RVI MAX SHUTTER SPEED 1/8000
shadow9d9 wrote:
I have needed more than 1/8000 occasionally.... and I was happy to have up to 1/32000 on my A1/II.
Does this bother anyone??Nope. If this for engineering or sport maybe get the A9 III.
I don't recall ever needing to go much over over 1/4000 in the last 50 years.
I hope to use my a7RVI at 1/60 MS where possible for best IQ.
EBHThat is weird, because I haven't been alive 50 years, and only started photography in 2018...and I could think of a day just off the top of my head when I needed 1/8000. It was with the 135 1.8. Snow and the sun.
https://uadarthmaul.smugmug.com/Elli-in-the-snowUntil recently the max shutter was 1/8000 for many of the cameras…and everyone seemed to manage taking photos in snow and sun.That is a weak argument, because it could also be used to argue that we should still be at 1fps, or manual only, etc, since people did it for decades fine. People are allowed to enjoy the advancement of technology and the ease and comforts that come with it.
So if you cannot live with just 1/8000 as the fastest shutter then you should look at a different camera. Just like I can’t stand the size and weight of the z8…I don’t complain about it…I look at smaller cameras.
chez wrote
shadow9d9 wrote
EB-1 wrote
Donzo98 wrote
I was very surprised to see the max shutter speed was only 1/8000 even in electronic shutter. I don't see many posts that mention it...I have needed more than 1/8000 occasionally.... and I was happy to have up to 1/32000 on my A1/II.
Does this bother anyone??
I don't recall ever needing to go much over over 1/4000 in the last 50 years.
I hope to use my a7RVI at 1/60 MS where possible for best IQ.
EBH
https://uadarthmaul.smugmug.com/Elli-in-the-snow
So if you cannot live with just 1/8000 as the fastest shutter then you should look at a different camera. Just like I can’t stand the size and weight of the z8…I don’t complain about it…I look at smaller cameras.
Jul 11, 2026 at 06:54 AM
p.2 #15A7RVI MAX SHUTTER SPEED 1/8000
My Leica M11-P can do 1/16000 of a second!
Just grab the Leica M11 and you are all set!
Just grab the Leica M11 and you are all set!
Jul 11, 2026 at 08:31 AM
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Thread #49,245 in which because the Oldhead Council has never done or needed something, no one should do or need that thing either.
Jul 11, 2026 at 08:42 AM
p.2 #17A7RVI MAX SHUTTER SPEED 1/8000
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Jul 11, 2026 at 09:09 AM
p.2 #19A7RVI MAX SHUTTER SPEED 1/8000
Donzo98 wrote:
I'm so happy I started this thread
In al seriousness though-
1/8000 is limiting and would seriously annoy me- Especially in a flag ship camera like this one.
If you have fast glass, you will loose some creative control in bright light.
I'm so happy I started this thread
In al seriousness though-
1/8000 is limiting and would seriously annoy me- Especially in a flag ship camera like this one.
If you have fast glass, you will loose some creative control in bright light.
Jul 11, 2026 at 10:39 AM
p.2 #20A7RVI MAX SHUTTER SPEED 1/8000
The A7r VI is not Sony’s flagship camera.
RustyRus wrote:
In al seriousness though-
1/8000 is limiting and would seriously annoy me- Especially in a flag ship camera like this one.
If you have fast glass, you will loose some creative control in bright light.
RustyRus wrote:
Donzo98 wrote
I'm so happy I started this thread1/8000 is limiting and would seriously annoy me- Especially in a flag ship camera like this one.
If you have fast glass, you will loose some creative control in bright light.
Jul 11, 2026 at 10:45 AM