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p.1 #1 · Best Lens for Dinner Party


I just got hired to photograph a 30th Anniversary of an organization I've been heavily involved with for at least half that time. I don't do many dinner parties and I'm wondering what lens would be the best to use for this event? I plan to use my Canon 5DSR and a newer flash I got. My choices are the Canon 24-105mm L,Canon 100mm L, Canon 70-200mmL. I have some wide angle lenses but I hear that you would not use them for portrait photography. I will set up a tripod for when people enter,and then walk around the tables throughout the night. When people give speeches, I'll use the tripod again.
I also have a Westcott FJ80SEM 80W Speedlight and Transceiver flash I bought about a year ago. I haven't given it a lot of use on people and I'm wondering what's the best way to use this flash? I noticed it's a bit bright so I faced it about 45 degrees from the subject. Will this work or should I get an oval mirror to bounce the flash off of?
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Bill



Jul 03, 2026 at 07:47 PM
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p.1 #2 · Best Lens for Dinner Party


If I understand the assignment correctly, I would think the 24-105 (f4 or f.2.8?....either will work - just curious) would be the best choice for 90% of what you will be covering. I think a small softbox/diffuser for the on camera use of the flash (covering all the tables etc.) would be a good idea. I used to use a Stroboframe to mount the flash on to raise the flash above the lens a little farther to reduce red eye. It also allows for a nice angle of the light.
For a "static" setup to photograph couples at the entrance where you might have the flash on a stand, an umbrella might be a good choice. It would provide nice diffused light. Another option, if you have the equipment, might be one flash for the "static" setup and one flash with small softbox/diffuser for the on camera setup. That way you wouldn't have to spend the time transferring diffusers/umbrellas on the flash unit.
I would highly recommend putting all this together in advance and practice practice practice.
Good luck!

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Jul 03, 2026 at 10:43 PM
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p.1 #3 · Best Lens for Dinner Party


I would use my 24-70 lens, or in your case the 24-105. Definitely go with a soft box or white umbrella to light the entrance shots. A speedlite, or in my case an AD200 round head and umbrella would be my choice to light these.

If you use a speedlite for the table shots, a bracket that gets it off the camera by about a foot or so would help considerably to avoid red eye and deer in the headlights looks. Those little bonnet diffusers or mini soft boxes that are designed to fit on speedlites do improve the closer table shots. A shoot like this is about the only time that I find these worth adding. If the ceiling is white, just aiming the speedlite at the ceiling without these, aimed to hit the ceiling roughly 1/2 way between camera and subject can work well. Bouncing a hard light off a wall or ceiling makes it's light softer without the need for modifiers.

If you haven't done this type of shoot before, practice before this shoot, in a place of similar size and white ceiling height or the place where the shoot will actually take place. A little experimenting with the lights will make a huge difference in your final shoot results.

Charley



Jul 04, 2026 at 08:11 AM
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p.1 #4 · Best Lens for Dinner Party


Another vote for your 24-105.

Another recommendation for not just practicing, but scout / practice the actual venue in advance.

And, off-axis flash is helpful. With regard to on-camera strobe ... I'd use a globe / half-dome style diffuser. They disperse the light, which does reduce power on subject a bit, but the quality gains (anti-harsh specular) are a fair trade-off for power reduction. Bouncing light in a large venue ... eats a lot of light (ISL) to cover the distance to ceiling to subject ... AND, you take on the color cast of the ceiling / walls in reflecting your light off them. Direct through a diffuser retains your color balance consistency.



Jul 04, 2026 at 08:30 AM
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p.1 #5 · Best Lens for Dinner Party


billsamuels wrote:
I just got hired

It's a paying gig, so do the right thing and practice in advance. Gigs are not a place to try new things.

billsamuels wrote:
I don't do many dinner parties and I'm wondering what lens would be the best to use for this event?


It's an event, so your the 24-105 will be your bread and butter, with bounced flash. For the 'speeches' (podium shots), your 70-200mm, ideally with flash but you can get away with f/2.8.

billsamuels wrote:
I also have a Westcott FJ80SEM 80W Speedlight and Transceiver flash I bought about a year ago. I haven't given it a lot of use on people and I'm wondering what's the best way to use this flash?


Bounce, depending on the ceiling. That speedlight should be able to bounce off a pretty high ceiling at 1/2- 1/4 power, so the limitation will be colour. In other words, if the ceiling is dark blue you won't be able to colour correct. If it's black, almost nothing will bounce back. But a typical whitish ceiling will be fine.

If that doesn't work, just point it forward and make sure the background doesn't go too dark - typical would be no more than 1 stop below measured.

General event advice:

An event is a story told with people, place, and things. So you get shots of all of those, in that order of importance.
- Be constantly aware of emotion. When you hear someone behind you loudly say ""uncle bob, it's been too long"", turn and get the shot. Good shots are ones that show happy people doing happy things.
- Go to the location in advance and practice. Don't do anything at the actual event that you haven't practiced regularly. Fumbling with gear will lose you both spontaneous (the moment passes) and posed (everyone gets frustrated and moves on) captures.  Get the shot.
- If it's going to be dark, and if it's going to be bright sun, you'll want flash (in the first case for light, in the second for at least fill flash). If you don't have or don't know how to use flash, you might have enough time for a crash course: https://strobist.blogspot.com/2006/03/lighting-101.html and https://neilvn.com/tangents/flash-photography-techniques/ You can make up for no flash with a fast lens (f/2.8 and below once it gets a bit dark as long as there is artificial lighting).
- The standard ""event lens"" is a 24-70mm f/2.8. You should hang out at about f/4 (for depth of field), going to f/5.6 for more than two people, and f/8 for larger groups.  Roughly. And you may need a telephoto for podium shots.
- Google ""event photography tips"" and see what comes up.







Jul 04, 2026 at 12:08 PM
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p.1 #6 · Best Lens for Dinner Party


As a Canon ,dslr only so far, shooter, I have the 24-70f4 IS but wish I had the 24-105...I agree with the above suggestions. I have hand tremors so I must have "IS" or IBIS. Since I don't have a Canon RF model, my Fuji MF does have IBIS and it works perfectly!

The weight should be a big consideration also. I normally would suggest the 70-200f2.8 IS but it IS heavy..for me(79) at my age...Plus you a wider field of view at this type of function.
Aaron's comment about "fumbling" with gear is spot on...You don't need distractions while composing an image!
Good luck, have fun Bill!
Dan




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With "paid gigs", it's absolutely necessary to have backup capability. This is a "one time" event and you are being paid to get it right. Do you have or can you borrow a second camera, lens, flash, etc.? You probably won't use it, but things happen, and for me, always at the worst time. There is no chance to re-shoot this event, so you must be able to get the needed shots when they happen. They are paying you to get this right. Failure of you or gear isn't an option.

Back when I was doing weddings and other paid events, I always had backup gear on me, or at least in my car. I was using two identical Canon 77D cameras for these shoots. For the weddings and large gatherings, having two identical cameras, one with a "near" lens like 24-70 or a 50mm, and the other with at least a 70-200 mm lens, to catch the shots happening at the other side of the event.

I have a two camera harness that I wore, so one camera hung on each side of me, always with the close lens on my left and the far lens on my right, so I could quickly grab and use the camera with the right lens quickly for the shot. I could also switch lenses between these two cameras if I had camera or lens troubles, and there was also a third older camera and flash out in my car, "just in case". Better to have less megapixel shots than no shots at all. My car camera was a Fuji X, a 16 megapixel attached lens camera that's now about 15 years old, but it still works well.

Spare batteries for flashes and cameras, lens wipes, etc. should be in your pockets or on you too. But make certain not to carry batteries in your pockets without some kind of contact protection on them. Pocket change or keys shorting out a lithium or even a cadmium battery in your pocket can quickly make you the Star Attraction there, when you start dancing in pain and throwing the contents of your hot pocket everywhere. Not at an event, but I watched a another photographer/tourist do this once, and his pants pocket was still smoldering after he had emptied it. Yes he got burned, but he wouldn't show any of us his burns.

For my paid shoots I have a canvas belt clip for my spare camera and flash batteries that I always wore at paid events for safety as well as to have them ready and on me, just in case I needed them. Going back and rummaging through your camera bags for batteries is very unprofessional. There is a separate pocket in this belt case for each battery, much like the ammunition holders that gun users sometimes have for their spare bullets. Each pocket in mine holds either a camera battery or two AA cells per pocket (for the speedlites). My speedlites use 4 AA cells and I use Tenergy AA size rechargeable cells. They get placed positive + up in the pockets when charged, and - up when discharged (used). The camera batteries get the same treatment, contacts up = fully charged, down = discharged.

Charley




Jul 06, 2026 at 08:27 AM
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p.1 #8 · Best Lens for Dinner Party


Everyone, thanks for the tips. I've done quite a few of these before, but this is the largest event.

Charley, thanks for the tips on bringing a lot of spare everything. I'm actually bringing just that. I have two Canon 5DSR's and one 6D. I'll use one 5DSR but if that doesn't work, I have the second 5DSR to fall back on and if that doesn't work, I have the 6D. The 5DSR takes better photos then the 6D.

I also have a Sony A7R4 which is a fantastic camera but I don't have that many lenses for it. I was going to use this on a tripod for when people walk in and get their entrance photo. I've been looking at lenses that are good for portraiture as I have several self-focus lenses that I purchased for the intent of taking in the forest. I don't want to rely on those one-time shots based on my ability to focus so I want AF. My Canons have many good Canon lenses w/ autofocus. If the Sony fails, the Canon is in standby mode and the flash is made for both models.

Dan - I also have a tremor as well these days so fortunately when I walk around to tables, I was going to use my Canon 5DSR and the 24-105mm lens which has IS. Thanks for reminding me of this. I also have both a telephoto lens and a wide angle lens that both have lS so I'm probably okay there.

Rustybug - My flash comes with a difussor. I've only used it a few times, but I'm going to take the advise and go to the hotel and take photo test shots, if they let me in. Its a popular hotel in Berkely (CA) so we'll have to see when they have it booked. I believe the celing is white or off-white. The hotel is very old, pre-1906.

The woman who runs the organization is letting me attend the event in exchange for me taking photos. The event is around $350/person. I've been involved with the group for 15 of the 30 years but I think she knows that I can't pay the $350 because I just (medical) retired, so this is how she's worked it out.

And thanks Dan for the videos. I'll watch them in the days to follow. Fortunately, the event is in November so I have some time to get it together.
Bill



Jul 07, 2026 at 06:13 AM
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p.1 #9 · Best Lens for Dinner Party


The little pull-out diffusers don't do much. You will be better off using an add-on diffuser for the close-ups (<8'). Again, practice will show you what will work and what won't in your situation and location.

Don't be afraid of Auto Mode and Auto ISO. At live events it's more important to "just get the shot" and then tune it up later in POST, than to spend the time at the shoot trying to adjust the camera for the best shot possible. You won't have the time during the event to make the adjustments between shots. Most times too much is happening, and too quickly, sometimes at the same time of other happenings. Catch them as they happen and then make minor adjustments later. For bigger events, a second, or even third shooter working with you can be the best way to catch the best shots when you are in the wrong place to catch them yourself. Wedding receptions are this kind of event. We have no idea of what will be happening at your event, so you are going to have to be prepared mentally and physically to see and catch the better shots, or it may be a simple gathering and no alcohol, so relatively tame and easy to shoot.

Take someone of average adult size and height with you when you go to experiment. Having someone who will pose casually for the entrance shots will help you get the lighting right. Also get them to sit at a table so you can try out different lighting adjustments on your camera attached flash and camera. Look around to see if tables might be placed where the lighting will be different and test those areas too. Write down all of your settings, positions, etc. so you can refer to them again, maybe not for exact following of your settings, but close, and something to think about before the event. Know what will be happening at the event. Will it be structured or will it just be a big party? Where will you locate yourself or will you need to move around, etc. are all important to learn ahead of time. The more you know about what will be happening, the better you will be prepared to get the best shots. If it's a wedding, maybe you should find out where weddings and wedding receptions will be happening and go watch how their photographers work. Don't interfere, just watch. You will learn a lot.

Charley



Jul 07, 2026 at 07:33 AM
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p.1 #10 · Best Lens for Dinner Party


Time is on your side ... you got this.


Jul 07, 2026 at 07:46 PM
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p.1 #11 · Best Lens for Dinner Party


I would agree with LB that the 24-105 is a better option, and the o only one you probably need.

Do you know how low the ceilings are? If they are not really high, I'd bounce the flash off the ceiling (point it straight up). If you have an umbrella or diffuser, you can use that more like a portrait setup, but it would be cumbersome to walk around with that and poke people in the eye or knock them int he head.



Jul 08, 2026 at 03:50 PM







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