Question about the XE5 film dial
p.3 #1Question about the XE5 film dial
SpecFoto wrote:
I purchased an XT5 about 9 months ago and love it. As I was going to Thailand for 2 months this year I wanted a 2nd body and bought an XE5 a few months ago as an EDC because of the smaller size
Now into the trip for 5 weeks with about 4,,500 photos taken by both cameras. Bottom line I an selling the XE5 when I get home and buying a 2nd XT5 with a low shutter count as my 2nd body.
The lack of certain features, the AF Joystick, ISO dial with lock, twin card slots for immediate backup, and a battery that only gets half as many shots, plus the lesser quality of things like the EVF, to me means the XE5 is a no go and makes it harder to get the shot with the same speed as it’s slightly bigger brother. My 2 Voight X mount pancakes are easier to MF with the 50% higher res EVF for sure.
Got my Xt5 brand new for only $50 more than the XE5, to me I would pay $300 more, it’s that much of an easier to use camera. PS left my Sony A7CR and lenses at home, the XT5 is that good.I appreciate that perspective. But the XT5 is basically a lesser version of my a7V and a7rV with worse AF that lacks the 4-way tilt screen - so I have the larger battery, better EVF, dual cards, hump in the middle camera covered for professional work and high IQ travel photos and video. I like the rangefinder style for casual shooting having previously owned the a7cII and now the Nikon Zr. If the Zr had a corner EVF and a mechanical shutter I probably wouldn’t be side eyeing something else because the recipe scene is pretty good in Nikon land. I’m actually considering the XM5 to go even smaller, but I like having IBIS so I’m leaning XE5.
Cheers
ChrisAnd I appreciate your perspective. The IBIS on the XE5 is good and the rangefinder style has its appeal. Before I replace my XE5, I will wait to see what the X Pro 4 brings, as I like the rangefinder style too. It is rumored to have an 1/8,000 mech shutter, a bigger joystick, full size battery, best IBIS yet, twin card slots and hopeful the 3.69 MD OLED EVF from the XT5. If it lacks these improvements then I am fine with a 2nd XT5 body.
Far as the Sony AF, I do not have an A7RV, but do have an A7RIV and A7CR. My XT5 AF is very good, I use CAF or SAF with a single point and if needed move it with the good sized joystick and quickly regain BBF (AF-On) as the 2 are right next to each other. My hit ratio is over 95% in focus, very close to my A7CR (97% +) with its more advanced focus system. But it needs it as there is no joystick
I am mostly shooting street scenes and portraits, no BIF or fast action, as that is what I wanted the Fuji system for, so my XT5 AF is more than good enough for me. The XE5 has in comparison a tiny joystick, slightly misplaced and the AF On button is a stretch up and again very tiny. Many time I would miss focus because of the difficulty of dealing with such small buttons placed so far apart. Regarding video, I don't use it, so the 3 way tilt screen is perfect, again for me, to each their own.
I don't use BBAF because its a clunky and outdated method of focusing on Sony's AI bodies, and most of the time I don't even use the joystick - I take advantage of the AI capabilities. I use the expand flexible box with lock on activated by a back button stab to engage tracking on whatever I put the focus box on. I also have tap to track on the LCD. Point, hit the button or tap the screen, and fire away at will. It tracks everything until you disengage or plant the focus box on something else and hit the button again. It's really amazing. Accuracy is almost perfect, and more importantly in video the tracking is just unbeatable. It's so sticky, makes it painless to chase a small child or kingfishers zooming around. I've owned the R5II and rented a XH2s to see if the other's are close - they aren't. Neither is my Nikon.
But that's ok since I already have those bases covered.
The XPro4 rumors have been around for years, and given Fuji's current prices it'll probably be well over $2000 and hard to find since they don't have the foresight to slow production of the other 428 bodies they sell in order to ramp up production of anything before releasing creating artificial shortages. I may have exaggerated the number of X Mount bodies by 5 or 6 though
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The XE5 seems to fit the bill nicely. Again appreciate the time.
Cheers
ChrisWell Chris I like my focusing method, been using it with my first DSLR since 2001 and with film bodies long before that since my first AF camera in the early 80's.
Not interested in AI anything, AI to me means Artificial IDIOT, probably a result of watching too many SciFi flicks where the robots took over and tried to kill everyone. Even touch screens are turned off on my cameras..... OK, I am set in my ways, I want to be in full control of my photos, but have never been called Clunky and Outdated before, not even by my...Show more →
Being afraid of AI and bragging about a Boxster and a Jeep is such a weak boomer flex! Oooh, you can drive a stick, another lame boomer flex. ! I can do a boomer flex too, 6 of my 7 vehicles are sticks. My LC200/LX570 mashup is fine as an auto. And I'm assembling the parts to do a e60 M5 wagon conversion with the s85 which will also be a stick. No self driving or goofy EV's for me, every vehicle I own or will own was made from the early 70's to the early 2010's - no digital gauge clusters or touchscreen HAVC controls for me. Ever.
Enjoy shooting like it's 1999.
Cheers
Chris
joychris wrote
SpecFoto wrote
joychris wrote
SpecFoto wrote
@joychris@@@@@@@I purchased an XT5 about 9 months ago and love it. As I was going to Thailand for 2 months this year I wanted a 2nd body and bought an XE5 a few months ago as an EDC because of the smaller size
Now into the trip for 5 weeks with about 4,,500 photos taken by both cameras. Bottom line I an selling the XE5 when I get home and buying a 2nd XT5 with a low shutter count as my 2nd body.
The lack of certain features, the AF Joystick, ISO dial with lock, twin card slots for immediate backup, and a battery that only gets half as many shots, plus the lesser quality of things like the EVF, to me means the XE5 is a no go and makes it harder to get the shot with the same speed as it’s slightly bigger brother. My 2 Voight X mount pancakes are easier to MF with the 50% higher res EVF for sure.
Got my Xt5 brand new for only $50 more than the XE5, to me I would pay $300 more, it’s that much of an easier to use camera. PS left my Sony A7CR and lenses at home, the XT5 is that good.
Cheers
Chris
Far as the Sony AF, I do not have an A7RV, but do have an A7RIV and A7CR. My XT5 AF is very good, I use CAF or SAF with a single point and if needed move it with the good sized joystick and quickly regain BBF (AF-On) as the 2 are right next to each other. My hit ratio is over 95% in focus, very close to my A7CR (97% +) with its more advanced focus system. But it needs it as there is no joystick
I am mostly shooting street scenes and portraits, no BIF or fast action, as that is what I wanted the Fuji system for, so my XT5 AF is more than good enough for me. The XE5 has in comparison a tiny joystick, slightly misplaced and the AF On button is a stretch up and again very tiny. Many time I would miss focus because of the difficulty of dealing with such small buttons placed so far apart. Regarding video, I don't use it, so the 3 way tilt screen is perfect, again for me, to each their own.But that's ok since I already have those bases covered.
The XPro4 rumors have been around for years, and given Fuji's current prices it'll probably be well over $2000 and hard to find since they don't have the foresight to slow production of the other 428 bodies they sell in order to ramp up production of anything before releasing creating artificial shortages. I may have exaggerated the number of X Mount bodies by 5 or 6 though
! The XE5 seems to fit the bill nicely. Again appreciate the time.
Cheers
Chris
Not interested in AI anything, AI to me means Artificial IDIOT, probably a result of watching too many SciFi flicks where the robots took over and tried to kill everyone. Even touch screens are turned off on my cameras..... OK, I am set in my ways, I want to be in full control of my photos, but have never been called Clunky and Outdated before, not even by my...Show more →
Being afraid of AI and bragging about a Boxster and a Jeep is such a weak boomer flex
! Oooh, you can drive a stick, another lame boomer flex. ! I can do a boomer flex too, 6 of my 7 vehicles are sticks. My LC200/LX570 mashup is fine as an auto. And I'm assembling the parts to do a e60 M5 wagon conversion with the s85 which will also be a stick. No self driving or goofy EV's for me, every vehicle I own or will own was made from the early 70's to the early 2010's - no digital gauge clusters or touchscreen HAVC controls for me. Ever.Enjoy shooting like it's 1999.
Cheers
Chris
Jun 18, 2026 at 10:41 AM
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p.3 #2Question about the XE5 film dial
Geoff D F wrote:
The cameras without a film sim dial only have C1 through C7, so I don't know what needs to be sorted?Too many settings "stick" or don't "stick" to C settings to make them coherent and useful as banks for film sims. They exist more as "use case" banks, which, for some middling Fujis with few strong suits, are not needed.
There is no easy way on those cameras to move between custom film sims without changing a bunch of other things every time if you've made some basic changes. I've talked about this in depth, Fred has, Richie at FXW has...this isn't new info.It's not that complicated. You can think of it as C1-7 change global settings including recipes, Fs1-3 change recipes but not global settings, and other positions on the film sim dial just change the film sim.
I actually find it pretty useful.
As for wanting to change other things, the front lever is really useful. I have it set to change C1-7 settings pulling left, aspect ratio toggling right, then ISO, and further film sims with the long pull.
I literally said that having the Film Sim dial would possibly fix my biggest issue with the C settings on modern Fujis, so I'm not sure why you're acting like what I said was contrarian. It would be VERY useful.
RoamingScott wrote
mdude85 wrote
RoamingScott wrote
For all other Fuji cameras that lack a film sim dial/FS1-FS3, you don't have a choice but to sort out those differences, and that change alone caused me to sell my Fujis off. It's a STUPID STUPID STUPID system that clearly no one at Fuji thought about, given that their entire brand rests on the laurels of community recipes.There is no easy way on those cameras to move between custom film sims without changing a bunch of other things every time if you've made some basic changes. I've talked about this in depth, Fred has, Richie at FXW has...this isn't new info.
I actually find it pretty useful.
As for wanting to change other things, the front lever is really useful. I have it set to change C1-7 settings pulling left, aspect ratio toggling right, then ISO, and further film sims with the long pull.
I literally said that having the Film Sim dial would possibly fix my biggest issue with the C settings on modern Fujis, so I'm not sure why you're acting like what I said was contrarian. It would be VERY useful.
Jun 18, 2026 at 10:43 AM
p.3 #3Question about the XE5 film dial
joychris wrote:
I purchased an XT5 about 9 months ago and love it. As I was going to Thailand for 2 months this year I wanted a 2nd body and bought an XE5 a few months ago as an EDC because of the smaller size
Now into the trip for 5 weeks with about 4,,500 photos taken by both cameras. Bottom line I an selling the XE5 when I get home and buying a 2nd XT5 with a low shutter count as my 2nd body.
The lack of certain features, the AF Joystick, ISO dial with lock, twin card slots for immediate backup, and a battery that only gets half as many shots, plus the lesser quality of things like the EVF, to me means the XE5 is a no go and makes it harder to get the shot with the same speed as it’s slightly bigger brother. My 2 Voight X mount pancakes are easier to MF with the 50% higher res EVF for sure.
Got my Xt5 brand new for only $50 more than the XE5, to me I would pay $300 more, it’s that much of an easier to use camera. PS left my Sony A7CR and lenses at home, the XT5 is that good.I appreciate that perspective. But the XT5 is basically a lesser version of my a7V and a7rV with worse AF that lacks the 4-way tilt screen - so I have the larger battery, better EVF, dual cards, hump in the middle camera covered for professional work and high IQ travel photos and video. I like the rangefinder style for casual shooting having previously owned the a7cII and now the Nikon Zr. If the Zr had a corner EVF and a mechanical shutter I probably wouldn’t be side eyeing something else because the recipe scene is pretty good in Nikon land. I’m actually considering the XM5 to go even smaller, but I like having IBIS so I’m leaning XE5.
Cheers
ChrisAnd I appreciate your perspective. The IBIS on the XE5 is good and the rangefinder style has its appeal. Before I replace my XE5, I will wait to see what the X Pro 4 brings, as I like the rangefinder style too. It is rumored to have an 1/8,000 mech shutter, a bigger joystick, full size battery, best IBIS yet, twin card slots and hopeful the 3.69 MD OLED EVF from the XT5. If it lacks these improvements then I am fine with a 2nd XT5 body.
Far as the Sony AF, I do not have an A7RV, but do have an A7RIV and A7CR. My XT5 AF is very good, I use CAF or SAF with a single point and if needed move it with the good sized joystick and quickly regain BBF (AF-On) as the 2 are right next to each other. My hit ratio is over 95% in focus, very close to my A7CR (97% +) with its more advanced focus system. But it needs it as there is no joystick I am mostly shooting street scenes and portraits, no BIF or fast action, as that is what I wanted the Fuji system for, so my XT5 AF is more than good enough for me. The XE5 has in comparison a tiny joystick, slightly misplaced and the AF On button is a stretch up and again very tiny. Many time I would miss focus because of the difficulty of dealing with such small buttons placed so far apart. Regarding video, I don't use it, so the 3 way tilt screen is perfect, again for me, to each their own.I don't use BBAF because its a clunky and outdated method of focusing on Sony's AI bodies, and most of the time I don't even use the joystick - I take advantage of the AI capabilities. I use the expand flexible box with lock on activated by a back button stab to engage tracking on whatever I put the focus box on. I also have tap to track on the LCD. Point, hit the button or tap the screen, and fire away at will. It tracks everything until you disengage or plant the focus box on something else and hit...Show more →
It's a matter of principle, and control, single point af-s and BBF the photographer is deciding the point of focus, just as with manual focus. If you want to give us that control and allow software to determine the focus point you are giving up one of the fundamentals that show, even at such a basic level, how go9d you are as a photographer, in the purely technical sense.
Gerry
SpecFoto wrote
joychris wrote
SpecFoto wrote
@joychris@@@@@@I purchased an XT5 about 9 months ago and love it. As I was going to Thailand for 2 months this year I wanted a 2nd body and bought an XE5 a few months ago as an EDC because of the smaller size
Now into the trip for 5 weeks with about 4,,500 photos taken by both cameras. Bottom line I an selling the XE5 when I get home and buying a 2nd XT5 with a low shutter count as my 2nd body.
The lack of certain features, the AF Joystick, ISO dial with lock, twin card slots for immediate backup, and a battery that only gets half as many shots, plus the lesser quality of things like the EVF, to me means the XE5 is a no go and makes it harder to get the shot with the same speed as it’s slightly bigger brother. My 2 Voight X mount pancakes are easier to MF with the 50% higher res EVF for sure.
Got my Xt5 brand new for only $50 more than the XE5, to me I would pay $300 more, it’s that much of an easier to use camera. PS left my Sony A7CR and lenses at home, the XT5 is that good.
Cheers
Chris
Far as the Sony AF, I do not have an A7RV, but do have an A7RIV and A7CR. My XT5 AF is very good, I use CAF or SAF with a single point and if needed move it with the good sized joystick and quickly regain BBF (AF-On) as the 2 are right next to each other. My hit ratio is over 95% in focus, very close to my A7CR (97% +) with its more advanced focus system. But it needs it as there is no joystick
I am mostly shooting street scenes and portraits, no BIF or fast action, as that is what I wanted the Fuji system for, so my XT5 AF is more than good enough for me. The XE5 has in comparison a tiny joystick, slightly misplaced and the AF On button is a stretch up and again very tiny. Many time I would miss focus because of the difficulty of dealing with such small buttons placed so far apart. Regarding video, I don't use it, so the 3 way tilt screen is perfect, again for me, to each their own.It's a matter of principle, and control, single point af-s and BBF the photographer is deciding the point of focus, just as with manual focus. If you want to give us that control and allow software to determine the focus point you are giving up one of the fundamentals that show, even at such a basic level, how go9d you are as a photographer, in the purely technical sense.
Gerry
Jun 18, 2026 at 11:55 AM
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p.3 #4Question about the XE5 film dial
Geoff D F wrote:
The cameras without a film sim dial only have C1 through C7, so I don't know what needs to be sorted?Too many settings "stick" or don't "stick" to C settings to make them coherent and useful as banks for film sims. They exist more as "use case" banks, which, for some middling Fujis with few strong suits, are not needed.
There is no easy way on those cameras to move between custom film sims without changing a bunch of other things every time if you've made some basic changes. I've talked about this in depth, Fred has, Richie at FXW has...this isn't new info.It's not that complicated. You can think of it as C1-7 change global settings including recipes, Fs1-3 change recipes but not global settings, and other positions on the film sim dial just change the film sim.
I actually find it pretty useful.
As for wanting to change other things, the front lever is really useful. I have it set to change C1-7 settings pulling left, aspect ratio toggling right, then ISO, and further film sims with the long pull.
Geoff, doesn't your method of using the front lever to access the C1-7 setting accomplish the same thing as pressing the Q button? What am I missing?
RoamingScott wrote
mdude85 wrote
RoamingScott wrote
For all other Fuji cameras that lack a film sim dial/FS1-FS3, you don't have a choice but to sort out those differences, and that change alone caused me to sell my Fujis off. It's a STUPID STUPID STUPID system that clearly no one at Fuji thought about, given that their entire brand rests on the laurels of community recipes.There is no easy way on those cameras to move between custom film sims without changing a bunch of other things every time if you've made some basic changes. I've talked about this in depth, Fred has, Richie at FXW has...this isn't new info.
I actually find it pretty useful.
As for wanting to change other things, the front lever is really useful. I have it set to change C1-7 settings pulling left, aspect ratio toggling right, then ISO, and further film sims with the long pull.
Geoff, doesn't your method of using the front lever to access the C1-7 setting accomplish the same thing as pressing the Q button? What am I missing?
Jun 18, 2026 at 08:10 PM
p.3 #5Question about the XE5 film dial
RoamingScott wrote:
The cameras without a film sim dial only have C1 through C7, so I don't know what needs to be sorted?Too many settings "stick" or don't "stick" to C settings to make them coherent and useful as banks for film sims. They exist more as "use case" banks, which, for some middling Fujis with few strong suits, are not needed.
There is no easy way on those cameras to move between custom film sims without changing a bunch of other things every time if you've made some basic changes. I've talked about this in depth, Fred has, Richie at FXW has...this isn't new info.It's not that complicated. You can think of it as C1-7 change global settings including recipes, Fs1-3 change recipes but not global settings, and other positions on the film sim dial just change the film sim.
I actually find it pretty useful.
As for wanting to change other things, the front lever is really useful. I have it set to change C1-7 settings pulling left, aspect ratio toggling right, then ISO, and further film sims with the long pull.I literally said that having the Film Sim dial would possibly fix my biggest issue with the C settings on modern Fujis, so I'm not sure why you're acting like what I said was contrarian. It would be VERY useful.
Sorry, I missed your earlier comment and misunderstood what you were saying. Anyway having being able to change custom settings, recipes and film sims all quickly and independently of the X-E5 is great if you like that flexibility.
Geoff D F wrote
RoamingScott wrote
mdude85 wrote
RoamingScott wrote
For all other Fuji cameras that lack a film sim dial/FS1-FS3, you don't have a choice but to sort out those differences, and that change alone caused me to sell my Fujis off. It's a STUPID STUPID STUPID system that clearly no one at Fuji thought about, given that their entire brand rests on the laurels of community recipes.There is no easy way on those cameras to move between custom film sims without changing a bunch of other things every time if you've made some basic changes. I've talked about this in depth, Fred has, Richie at FXW has...this isn't new info.
I actually find it pretty useful.
As for wanting to change other things, the front lever is really useful. I have it set to change C1-7 settings pulling left, aspect ratio toggling right, then ISO, and further film sims with the long pull.
Sorry, I missed your earlier comment and misunderstood what you were saying. Anyway having being able to change custom settings, recipes and film sims all quickly and independently of the X-E5 is great if you like that flexibility.
Jun 19, 2026 at 03:53 PM
p.3 #6Question about the XE5 film dial
TENOG wrote:
The cameras without a film sim dial only have C1 through C7, so I don't know what needs to be sorted?Too many settings "stick" or don't "stick" to C settings to make them coherent and useful as banks for film sims. They exist more as "use case" banks, which, for some middling Fujis with few strong suits, are not needed.
There is no easy way on those cameras to move between custom film sims without changing a bunch of other things every time if you've made some basic changes. I've talked about this in depth, Fred has, Richie at FXW has...this isn't new info.It's not that complicated. You can think of it as C1-7 change global settings including recipes, Fs1-3 change recipes but not global settings, and other positions on the film sim dial just change the film sim.
I actually find it pretty useful.
As for wanting to change other things, the front lever is really useful. I have it set to change C1-7 settings pulling left, aspect ratio toggling right, then ISO, and further film sims with the long pull.Geoff, doesn't your method of using the front lever to access the C1-7 setting accomplish the same thing as pressing the Q button? What am I missing?
Yes it does, but the advantage is it brings up all options with the custom settings names onto the screen at once so it is easier and quicker to see what options there are. With the Q button you have to scroll to see what and which slot your custom settings are in.
Geoff D F wrote
RoamingScott wrote
mdude85 wrote
RoamingScott wrote
For all other Fuji cameras that lack a film sim dial/FS1-FS3, you don't have a choice but to sort out those differences, and that change alone caused me to sell my Fujis off. It's a STUPID STUPID STUPID system that clearly no one at Fuji thought about, given that their entire brand rests on the laurels of community recipes.There is no easy way on those cameras to move between custom film sims without changing a bunch of other things every time if you've made some basic changes. I've talked about this in depth, Fred has, Richie at FXW has...this isn't new info.
I actually find it pretty useful.
As for wanting to change other things, the front lever is really useful. I have it set to change C1-7 settings pulling left, aspect ratio toggling right, then ISO, and further film sims with the long pull.
Yes it does, but the advantage is it brings up all options with the custom settings names onto the screen at once so it is easier and quicker to see what options there are. With the Q button you have to scroll to see what and which slot your custom settings are in.
Jun 19, 2026 at 03:57 PM