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p.3 #1 · Do folks use Leica M cameras "naked" (ie without grips of any kind) and are still happy with the ergonomics?


Never had and never will put a grip on an M.

It's just my preference. Doesn't mean its wrong. But it is ugly as hell



May 18, 2026 at 09:06 AM
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p.3 #2 · Do folks use Leica M cameras "naked" (ie without grips of any kind) and are still happy with the ergonomics?


pmeheut wrote:
I often wonder how one can hesitate between a big MF, AF mirrorless camera and a Leica M.
Choose one or have both ok. But if you are happy with a X2D, the M was probably the worst camera for you to start with.


Your remarks are logical..but here is my use case, since you “wonder”. I only use the X2D2 for travel. My X2D is used for copying film negatives. I have six ‘M’ film cameras, a Bronica RF645 and two Fujifilm rangefinders and a Mamiya 7 & 7ii, as well as an M11 Monochrom and have used the M since 1999 and Mamiya 7 since it was introduced. So, I’m not adverse to ‘M’, nor rangefinder viewfinder, but if I want the best color images, I decided that I would use the best camera to capture them. The X2DII has been a brilliant camera. It is fairly compact with a 38P, or one of the pancake lenses and it is quite versatile with the zooms and the 90v renders portraits to die for.. at least to the degree that my lacking abilities allow. The amazing IBIS, especially when used with the Phocus Mobile App, combined with the low noise of the medium format sensor and Phocus Desktop/Mobile proprietary noise reduction also make this an amazing low light camera. Most of the lenses are pretty fast in the ‘v’ lineup..f/2.5 which translates into the depth of field of f/2.0 in FF. I’m planning on selling the M11M and just using converted X2Dii files and film. So, the transition happened slowly and it does not, in any way, reflect on anyone’s choice of using digital ‘M’ cameras. I still use my film ‘M’ for travel in U.S.

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May 19, 2026 at 11:01 AM
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p.3 #3 · Do folks use Leica M cameras "naked" (ie without grips of any kind) and are still happy with the ergonomics?


Since I'm coming from the Canon ecosystem (7D > R6mk2 > R5mk2) my hands are very used to having a grip. I do like that the Q3M is smaller, one of the reasons I intentionally chose it as my everyday walk-around camera, my hands do still need the grip (I bought the first-party hand grip with wireless charging and a third-party Freewell thumb grip so I can still use the cold shoe if needed) for maximum comfort and shooting efficiency.

But that was a highly personal decision, I can understand if others find the Q series comfortable to shoot without those accessories, why they'd choose to do so.



May 19, 2026 at 11:04 AM
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p.3 #4 · Do folks use Leica M cameras "naked" (ie without grips of any kind) and are still happy with the ergonomics?


bwcolor wrote:
but here is my use case, since you “wonder”.


Thanks for your answer. And I really wonder, meaning I do not know.
As far as I'm concerned, you can buy, use or not use any camera you want. I will never judge.

I guess my question was more like: "if you are ready to accept a bigger, AF, mirrorless camera such as the X2D, why were you not using a Sony or Canon FF with a few primes instead of the M?"

I have an idea of the answer but I would genuinely like to hear it from you.




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p.3 #5 · Do folks use Leica M cameras "naked" (ie without grips of any kind) and are still happy with the ergonomics?


When shooting with the Leica M system, the lens is my "add-on accessory grip." One of my considerations, when acquiring a lens, is the ergonomics of the lens body, and its hood, if I plan to use the OEM hood.

Why? Well:

For starters, I am left-handed. Holding something in my left hand feels natural. I do throw right-handed, and better perform some other gross motor skills that require use of the whole arm, right-handed. So, holding a delicate item, such as a camera/lens combo, in my left hand, leaves my right hand and arm free to do other, bigger things.

Then, there is that whole "long lens technique" thing, from my DSLR days, when wildlife and birds were priorities. Long lenses require the support of the left hand and upraised left forearm, with the back of the upper left arm against the torso. Long lens technique works for shorter lenses, too.

Police training emphasizes keeping one's primary pistol-shooting hand free, as much as possible. For more than seven years, most of my images were captured while on duty. Crime scene photography was an added duty, during the final part of my police patrol career. Hefty revolvers were the mandated duty handgun, when I was originally being trained, in 1983/1984. Drawing from the then-mandated low-slung duty holster was much like throwing underhanded. So, being a right-armed thrower, I established my right hip as my handgun carry position. (Though a native Texas, I had not grown-up around guns, so, was learning from scratch, as a young adult.)

Being a right-armed person meant that my right hand, wrist, arm, and shoulder experienced comparatively more cumulative physical trauma, over the decades. Carrying things in my left hand spares my right hand much physical discomfort.

OK, back to being left-handed. My right hand being that small bit more clumsy, when multi-tasking, such as gripping an item, while also carefully pressing a small button, well, by holding the camera and body and lens left-handed, and keeping my right hand as relaxed as possible, I am more likely to achieve a clean press of the button, at the most-important moment.

Some may "accuse" me of being ambidextrous. I think not. There is nothing that I do absolutely equally well with each of my hands. I did take piano lessons, as a child, and, played a clarinet in the middle/junior school band, for two years. Playing a musical instrument does develop ambidextrous skills. A camera/lens combo can be seen as analogous to playing a musical instrument.



May 19, 2026 at 12:48 PM
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p.3 #6 · Do folks use Leica M cameras "naked" (ie without grips of any kind) and are still happy with the ergonomics?


Rex that's got to be one of the most unique use-case stories I've read in a long, long while!


May 19, 2026 at 01:15 PM
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p.3 #7 · Do folks use Leica M cameras "naked" (ie without grips of any kind) and are still happy with the ergonomics?


pmeheut wrote:
Thanks for your answer. And I really wonder, meaning I do not know.
As far as I'm concerned, you can buy, use or not use any camera you want. I will never judge.

I guess my question was more like: "if you are ready to accept a bigger, AF, mirrorless camera such as the X2D, why were you not using a Sony or Canon FF with a few primes instead of the M?"

I have an idea of the answer but I would genuinely like to hear it from you.



I’ve owned every Sony Mirrorless from the NEX-7, through the A7R series and the original A1. Shot sports, events, model, landscape, family and prior to that had a few Canons but jumped to Sony after my 1DMKiii. Just purchased the A7Rvi, but my wife will be using. I many times go around with just one lens and one camera and these days the camera is, more likely, a film camera. It really isn’t that I accept a larger camera, but rather that on balance what that camera offers makes carrying the larger camera worth the weight/size. I’m curious to see what the “better” A7Rvi white balance brings to the table. Also, for my hands, the X2D series is quite ergonomic and like the Leicas, the menu design is so superior to Sony’s relative mess…of course Sony has improved a bit over time. Regarding ‘M’ cameras, it was initially the lenses that attracted me, but these days many Sony GM lenses are quite competitive in all but size and the Hasselblad modern XCD lenses are quite good. I still enjoy shooting Leica ‘M’ film cameras. The feel, weight and sound of the mechanical shutter are great and of course, the lenses aren’t anything to complain about. Far better for street than my X2D2 and more fun than the Sonys. I have far more cameras than talent to use them.



May 20, 2026 at 07:50 AM
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