p.2 #2 · Is the A7RIII still considered a good camera today or is it been obsolted by newer sensors and tech?
jeffbuzz wrote:
I prefer the 42mp sensor to the 60. According to dxomark, that mark III sensor is perfect.
I bet you have never worked with the 60mp sensor.
p.2 #3 · Is the A7RIII still considered a good camera today or is it been obsolted by newer sensors and tech?
I didn't have A7RIII, started with A7III, then A7RIVa, A7Rv, A7CR, now I have A7RIVa again. It's the best option for me. It has excellent screens, bit smaller and lighter than A7RV, AF is good enough, was significantly cheaper than A7RV, best FF sensor for stills, and prefer the minimal tilting screen over the thick multi angle on RV, battery life also better.
p.2 #6 · Is the A7RIII still considered a good camera today or is it been obsolted by newer sensors and tech?
jeffbuzz wrote:
According to dxomark, that mark III sensor is perfect.
Firstly: Both sensors have the exact same rating on Dxomark.
Secondly: Dxomark is not a reputable source. Their reviews and scorings are just some BS.
p.2 #7 · Is the A7RIII still considered a good camera today or is it been obsolted by newer sensors and tech?
I too recently acquired a very lightly used A7RIII, to add to my A7cII. I wanted the double card slots for shooting events, as well as a backup body with different properties; slightly more robust, better ergonomics with larger lenses etc. I have no objections at all, but I also don't have very high demands, not shooting anything fast. Low light is more important to me.
p.2 #8 · Is the A7RIII still considered a good camera today or is it been obsolted by newer sensors and tech?
The 42mp sensor in the rII/rIII is my favorite from any camera I’ve owned or used. I really wish it was in a current gen body and got the stacked treatment like the 45mp sensor Nikon is using. But I also really like the overall handling and shooting experience of the newer bodies with the 4-way screen, touch AF capability, AI AF, 10-bit video, and the newer updated menus. The older menus are clunky in comparison to current cameras, but still much better than Nikon ! I recently picked up the Zr and the menus are hot garbage. Nothing makes sense. So it could be worse than an older Sony haha.
In terms of IQ the a7rIII is as good and any new camera and you get the Zed battery along with refinements over the a7rII - which is a big plus. Personally I wouldn’t get anything using the older FW50 batteries the first two generations of a7’s used. I came close to grabbing a low mileage a7rIIIa to be my slower landscape body before scoring a deal on a used a7rV. I hesitated and ultimately went with the rV because I always travel with two bodies, and having a seamless transition between them made it worth the extra cost for me. YMMV.
p.2 #9 · Is the A7RIII still considered a good camera today or is it been obsolted by newer sensors and tech?
hasenbein wrote:
Firstly: Both sensors have the exact same rating on Dxomark.
Secondly: Dxomark is not a reputable source. Their reviews and scorings are just some BS.
Oh, that is funny. I hadn't noticed that the mark IV and V had different scores. The a7R IV is 99% but the a7R V gets 100% like the a7R III. I guess the new processors squeezed one extra point out of same sensor. The a7R II was 98% with the same sensor as the mark III.
If we take the average scores for the 2 cameras having the same sensors, the 60mp sensor wins with 99.5% to the 42mp 99%. But you said the tests are bogus so can I still claim the 42mp wins?
It's nice to have some quantitative values to compare. You have to look at most test results with a proverbial grain of salt.
I never saw any image quality difference between those sensors. The 50% file size increase is what I didn't like. 50% more storage and 50% slower processing for no discernible image difference I could see.
p.2 #10 · Is the A7RIII still considered a good camera today or is it been obsolted by newer sensors and tech?
jeffbuzz wrote:
I never saw any image quality difference between those sensors. The 50% file size increase is what I didn't like. 50% more storage and 50% slower processing for no discernible image difference I could see.
As I explained already, there is no file size difference if you want maximal IQ from both cameras, because A7RV has lossless compression and A7RIII hasn't.
The big advantage of 60mp is that you can crop MASSIVELY while retaining very decent resolution, thus often eliminating the need for long teles. And there are many other advantages of the A7RV.
Yes, the sensor of the A7RIII is fine. But there is absolutely no need to fabricate arguments against the A7RV in order to justify one's decision for the A7RIII.
p.2 #11 · Is the A7RIII still considered a good camera today or is it been obsolted by newer sensors and tech?
aerospace99 wrote:
FYI I am a Nikon for life guy but this is the first Sony camera I have owned. I have respect for face detect detail of Sony cameras and the Sony G lenses. Mostly doing portrait work. Bought it for its combination of low light and high resolution capability at a decent price.
Given that your core requirement is portrait photography, why not perform a thought experiment: All your gear just been stolen and you have to replace it all, from scratch. What would you get ?
Life is short.
Personal angle: I still have my A7R2 and have not upgraded. If a new core requirement comes along, I will choose the gear to meet the requirement... in that order. As the old saying goes: "Use the right tool for the job"
p.2 #12 · Is the A7RIII still considered a good camera today or is it been obsolted by newer sensors and tech?
hasenbein wrote:
As I explained already, there is no file size difference if you want maximal IQ from both cameras, because A7RV has lossless compression and A7RIII hasn't.
The big advantage of 60mp is that you can crop MASSIVELY while retaining very decent resolution, thus often eliminating the need for long teles. And there are many other advantages of the A7RV.
Yes, the sensor of the A7RIII is fine. But there is absolutely no need to fabricate arguments against the A7RV in order to justify one's decision for the A7RIII.
You seem to be talking specifically about the a7R V. The a7R IV also had that 60mp sensor. That is my (and perhaps other people's) basis of comparison. The mark IV has less aggressive compression options than the mark V. The mark V also has smaller uncompressed images because it records a slightly smaller total image: 9504x6336 versus 9600x6376.
p.2 #15 · Is the A7RIII still considered a good camera today or is it been obsolted by newer sensors and tech?
I would think all the cameras that are being discussed have sensor very capable of producing stunning portrait photos. It’s the eye focus tracking while shooting portraits in dimmer light that would push me away from the A7r3 to a more modern AF camera. The A7r3 eye focus acquisition and tracking is somewhat lacking from my user experience.
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p.2 #18 · Is the A7RIII still considered a good camera today or is it been obsolted by newer sensors and tech?
Funny about the article, it seems that each year it updates the year in the title to make it more relevant. The A7R III is still a good camera for still photography; it will still have more resolution than the newly released A7 V.
A note on DxO: I like their testing; I think it helps assess a sensor's qualities. The only thing lacking in their final score is resolution. I would think that's an important parameter.
p.2 #19 · Is the A7RIII still considered a good camera today or is it been obsolted by newer sensors and tech?
Yes that article first appeared maybe in 2021, but it is still relevant. I am not too excited by all the gimmicks being added on cameras today that I do not need.
I think that the A7Riii was the beginning of a "good enough" era where the camera had achieved a certain level of acceptance that allows a wide range of use with a degree of satisfaction and capability at a decent price point. This is where the Nikon Z7II is at. Yes, newer models are better, but not likely to make you a better photographer in most situations. I think for 1200 dollars new without box its pretty good. I am going to run it off against my Z7II and report back.
p.2 #20 · Is the A7RIII still considered a good camera today or is it been obsolted by newer sensors and tech?
In answer to your question, I have an A7riii and upgraded to it because it had significant new features that my A7ii simply didn't have. Since having purchased it, I have no particular interest in buying another body or changing systems. Interestingly, I haven't been able to motivate myself to actually sell the A7ii. Either of them is really quite enough unless you are doing serious high speed sports or wildlife. My real problem at this point is the guy pressing the shutter button.
! I recently picked up the Zr and the menus are hot garbage. Nothing makes sense. So it could be worse than an older Sony haha. 