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Jenny by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

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Jul 18, 2026 at 10:00 AM
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_jim_ wrote:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55391972145_6009aa79c9_h.jpgJenny by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55391561336_4ce0f563e8_h.jpgMirror Group Photo by Jim Fischer, on Flickr
Leica M5, Light Lens Lab 35mm f/1.4 Aspherical '11873,' Fomapan 100, Adox XT-3 1:1

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55401146005_ef1c41b425_h.jpgDad by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55401328775_8870e11590_h.jpgDad by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55400859683_6a2949b649_h.jpgJim by Jim Fischer, on Flickr
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Hi Jim,
Awesome!
I forgot to ask you a while back, were you able to figure out that internal texture in the highlights? I call it a "gritty" look, but I think you know what I'm referring to. I recall you mentioned having a tech take a look, and they thought it might be fixable, perhaps by cleaning the elements? I'm considering buying this lens and wanted to see what you ended up finding out.
Fred



Jul 18, 2026 at 12:05 PM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
Hi Jim,
Awesome!
I forgot to ask you a while back, were you able to figure out that internal texture in the highlights? I call it a "gritty" look, but I think you know what I'm referring to. I recall you mentioned having a tech take a look, and they thought it might be fixable, perhaps by cleaning the elements? I'm considering buying this lens and wanted to see what you ended up finding out.
Fred


The tech said that there was an oily residue behind the front element. They cleaned it, but were unwilling to take the lens apart any further. Sadly, the cleaning resulted in no change to deformity/texture in the specular highlights.



Jul 18, 2026 at 02:26 PM
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_jim_ wrote:
The tech said that there was an oily residue behind the front element. They cleaned it, but were unwilling to take the lens apart any further. Sadly, the cleaning resulted in no change to deformity/texture in the specular highlights.


Thanks for confirming this. So it sounds like we're likely looking at two separate things: one, there was oil residue, and two, the internal texture is probably a byproduct of the aspherical molding process they use, meaning it's likely a characteristic present in all copies of the lens.



Jul 18, 2026 at 02:44 PM
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_jim_ wrote:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55391972145_6009aa79c9_h.jpgJenny by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55391561336_4ce0f563e8_h.jpgMirror Group Photo by Jim Fischer, on Flickr
Leica M5, Light Lens Lab 35mm f/1.4 Aspherical '11873,' Fomapan 100, Adox XT-3 1:1

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55401146005_ef1c41b425_h.jpgDad by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55401328775_8870e11590_h.jpgDad by Jim Fischer, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55400859683_6a2949b649_h.jpgJim by Jim Fischer, on Flickr
Leica M5, Light Lens Lab 35mm f/1.4 Aspherical '11873,' Cinestill 800T.


Such great pictures of your dad. It reminds me I need to do a better job at photographing my family, especially since I see them so rarely.



Jul 18, 2026 at 03:28 PM
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This comparison between the Light Lens Lab 35mm f/1.4 Aspherical and the Leica 35mm f/1.4 Summilux FLE and Leica 35mm f/1.4 Summilux Steel Rim (pre-ASPH) is very telling, and I wanted to share it with you all.

It reveals a lot about field curvature shape at mid-distance (around 3.5m), vignetting, coma, spherical aberration, color aberration, and overall rendering, so there's plenty to unpack here.

First, a comparison between the Leica 35mm f/1.4 Summilux FLE and the LLL 35mm f/1.4 AA, both wide open. At first glance they don't look all that different, but once you look closely at rendering and other characteristics, they turn out to be quite different lenses. The Light Lens Lab shows very obvious outward field curvature at this distance: the subject is sharp at 3.5m in the center, but the far edges of the frame are also sharp rather than falling out of focus as expected. This effect is even more pronounced on a thicker sensor stack like Sony's. The FLE handles this more naturally, with a more expected falloff toward the edges.

As for spherical aberration, the LLL shows more of it, and its color aberration and coma are easier to see than to describe in words. Both lenses have uncorrected aberrations, but they're clearly not the same in character. There's also slightly higher vignetting on the 11873, though the difference isn't dramatic.

Let's start with the Leica 35mm f/1.4 Summilux FLE versus the LLL 35mm f/1.4 AA, both wide open at 3.5m (mid-distance):





Leica 35mm f/1.4 Summilux FLE (TOP) versus the LLL 35mm f/1.4 AA (BOTTOM)







Focused area: the LLL shows slightly more spherical aberration and coma. Both lenses exhibit some color error.







Focused area: the LLL shows slightly more spherical aberration and coma. Both lenses exhibit some color error.







This crop is very telling: coma is a bit more pronounced on the Leica, color aberration looks similar between the two, but here we start to see the effect of field curvature toward the edges, making the out-of-focus area appear sharper on the LLL.







Out-of-focus background: much smoother on the FLE. It looks more natural, thanks to more neutral field curvature.







Out-of-focus background: much smoother on the FLE. It looks more natural, thanks to more neutral field curvature.







Out-of-focus background: much smoother on the FLE. It looks more natural, thanks to more neutral field curvature.







Out-of-focus background near the center looks fairly similar between the two, similar blur, though the highlight shapes differ slightly.







Out-of-focus background near the center looks fairly similar between the two, similar blur, though the highlight shapes differ slightly.







Focused area: the LLL shows slightly more spherical aberration and coma. Both lenses exhibit some color error.







Out-of-focus background: much smoother on the FLE. It looks more natural, thanks to more neutral field curvature.




Jul 18, 2026 at 04:39 PM
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Now let's do the same, comparing the LLL 35mm f/1.4 to the Leica 35mm f/1.4 Summilux Steel Rim (pre-ASPH).

Vignetting is significantly higher on the Leica Steel Rim, and all its aberrations are much more pronounced. We see noticeably more spherical aberration and coma, while color error is somewhat masked by these other aberrations. Field curvature, on the other hand, is more neutral. This is better shown than described, so without further ado, here's the comparison:





Leica 35mm f/1.4 Summilux Steel Rim (TOP), LLL 35mm f/1.4 11873 (BOTTOM)







Higher SA, glow for the Leica







Coma is comically higher on the Leica. :)







Coma is comically higher on the Leica. :)







More neutral field curvature on the Leica, which translates to a smoother background rendering, more out of focus, as it should be.







More neutral field curvature on the Leica, which translates to a smoother background rendering, more out of focus, as it should be.












Similar out-of-focus rendering in the background at center, though the highlights have a different character.







Stronger purple fringing on the LLL, and stronger coma on the Leica. This is also comically bad, but it's part of their character.







More neutral field curvature on the Leica, which translates to a smoother background rendering, more out of focus, as it should be.




Jul 18, 2026 at 04:48 PM
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Has anyone used used this LLL 35/1.4 on a Stock Sony sensor? How does it look in terms of technical IQ?


Jul 27, 2026 at 11:04 AM
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nehemiahphoto wrote:
Has anyone used used this LLL 35/1.4 on a Stock Sony sensor? How does it look in terms of technical IQ?


I am interested in this question too, but I expect it will not perform well as the outward field curvature which I see as a bit of an Achille's heel of the LLL 35 f/1.4 will likely be even worse. I would like to see samples to know if that is true, however.



Jul 27, 2026 at 11:13 AM
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Steve Spencer wrote:
I am interested in this question too, but I expect it will not perform well as the outward field curvature which I see as a bit of an Achille's heel of the LLL 35 f/1.4 will likely be even worse. I would like to see samples to know if that is true, however.


I have the same thinking. But, I actually prefer the way the 35 Lux FLE performs on only sensors so you never know!

I was hoping buried in this thread somebody would have talked about or tested it.



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Took delivery of my black 11873 two days ago, numbered 073/998. Got around to taking some pictures with it this morning around the city center. The compositions are nothing much to write home about, but first impressions of the lens are great. No focus issues, looks great on my M10 and the haptics are really good - could become great when the focussing ring loosens up a little more. The aperture ring is especially nice.

As far as the image quality goes, the colours look very nice to me. Compared to my other lenses I feel like it leans slightly green, but not annoyingly so. The contrast signature is gentle and provides a great look. I haven't gotten it to flare yet, which means that it has better resistance than I thought it would have going in.

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Aug 01, 2026 at 09:35 AM
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@Steve Spencer

@_jim_ has kindly lent me his copy of the LLL 35/1.4. Here is how it stacks up a bit on a modded versus a stock Sony camera.

The first set of photos (a) of the fence is at 2.5 meters, tripod, 2 second delay, manual focus, exact same exposure, no processing or corrections of any time, focus on middle. The LLL 35/1.4 does perform expectedly worse on the stock Sony with it's thicker sensor stack-take a look at just out of the central third of the frame.

Modded a7r2:


Stock a7c2:


The second set below is how the thick sensor stack affects the rendering in a complex background bokeh scene at 1 meter WO.

Modded a7r2:


Stock a7c2:



I shot other scenes, from WO to f8 against the CV 35/1.7 on both modded and not modded. The CV is easily superior technically in terms of resolution (and lets not even talk about flare resistance ). It also handles the thicker Sony sensor stack better.

Having said that, I find the LLL files pretty lovely and it has what the CV 35/1.7 lacks in spades--nice color, a bit of softness and personality. I very well may purchase one.

All actual photos on a stock A7cII:








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Yes, I saw a much amplified field curvature on the thicker Sony sensor. I thought I'd mentioned it on the thread already. Basically, there's a strong natural field curvature to begin with, and the thicker sensor stack makes it even stronger. It's one advantage of the newest Leica FLE design.

BTW, I was told by LLL that they'll run one last batch of the 35mm f/1.4 Aspherical "11873." After this batch, they're ending production to focus on the new 35mm f/2 Apochromatic runs. So if you've been considering an 11873, this may be your last chance.



Aug 09, 2026 at 06:33 PM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
Yes, I saw a much amplified field curvature on the thicker Sony sensor. I thought I'd mentioned it on the thread already. Basically, there's a strong natural field curvature to begin with, and the thicker sensor stack makes it even stronger. It's one advantage of the newest Leica FLE design.

BTW, I was told by LLL that they'll run one last batch of the 35mm f/1.4 Aspherical "11873." After this batch, they're ending production to focus on the new 35mm f/2 Apochromatic runs. So if you've been considering an 11873, this may be your last chance.


I guess I missed that. What page on this thread is it on with the Sony stack performance?

I like very much that the FLE and CV 35/1.7 offer decent performance on a Sony. Really adds to the value and usability to me.



Aug 09, 2026 at 07:27 PM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
Yes, I saw a much amplified field curvature on the thicker Sony sensor. I thought I'd mentioned it on the thread already. Basically, there's a strong natural field curvature to begin with, and the thicker sensor stack makes it even stronger. It's one advantage of the newest Leica FLE design.

BTW, I was told by LLL that they'll run one last batch of the 35mm f/1.4 Aspherical "11873." After this batch, they're ending production to focus on the new 35mm f/2 Apochromatic runs. So if you've been considering an 11873, this may be your last chance.


The titanium version is currently available again! I ordered one as an alternate to my 35 f2 Ultron
II. Hoping they make a nice character/modern pair. New to M, but love the 35 FOV.



Aug 10, 2026 at 11:06 PM
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Placed an order for the titanium version as well. I like lenses with a bit of character and, based on Fred’s excellent review, this one seem to hit a sweet spot.


Aug 11, 2026 at 01:44 AM
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It does seem a bit silly to have a “limited edition” titanium version and then bring it back again but I’m glad others that missed out are able to order it.


Aug 11, 2026 at 10:22 AM
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nehemiahphoto wrote:
I guess I missed that. What page on this thread is it on with the Sony stack performance?

I like very much that the FLE and CV 35/1.7 offer decent performance on a Sony. Really adds to the value and usability to me.


Nehemiah,

It's right about on this page where I was testing the LLL 35/1.4 vs Leica 35/1.4 FLE for field curvature. I just commented that the FC is even stronger on the Sony (stronger outwards).



Aug 11, 2026 at 11:56 AM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
Nehemiah,

It's right about on this page where I was testing the 35/1.4 vs Leica 35/1.4 FLE for field curvature. I just commented that the FC is even stronger on the Sony (stronger outwards).


Ahh very good. I was looking for crops of something a little more detailed so I could see the degree and severity in terms of rendering and resolution. At this point, I am genuinely surprised if these type of lenses don't have amplified FC on a Sony sensor.

Question for you (or anyone): Why, optically, do we see lenses with FC that bend towards the camera? Even on a native sensor stacks with lenses like the CV 35/1.7, 40/1.2 or this LLL 35/1.4 we see this type of FC. Curious if we have to have FC why we don't get more outward FC like a Zeiss 28/2 classic. That type is more favorable for rendering I think we all agree. Is this more of a constraint/correlated to m-mount?



Aug 11, 2026 at 12:12 PM
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nehemiahphoto wrote:
Ahh very good. I was looking for crops of something a little more detailed so I could see the degree and severity in terms of rendering and resolution. At this point, I am genuinely surprised if these type of lenses don't have amplified FC on a Sony sensor.

Question for you (or anyone): Why, optically, do we see lenses with FC that bend towards the camera? Even on a native sensor stacks with lenses like the CV 35/1.7, 40/1.2 or this LLL 35/1.4 we see this type of FC. Curious if we have to have FC why we don't get more
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That's a great question, and I think it's an optical design decision. What you call outwards, I'd call inwards. For instance, the Zeiss 28/2 Distagon has inward curvature because the field bends toward the camera (foreground) at the sides. I prefer this type of curvature since it helps with depth of field in landscapes. The outward type (bends towards infinity), like the LLL 35/1.4 and others you mentioned, is much more common, especially in 35mm and 50mm lenses.

The issue with the LLL 35/1.4 AA on Sony is that the lens already has strong field curvature by design, so on the Sony it becomes extreme.



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