I went through the X100VI a few times and ended up replacing it with a Sony RX1RIII that I'm so far enjoying. Overall, I like the design, OVF, IBIS etc that the X100VI brings but I just do not like the image output coming out of the camera. It has a generally unsharp feel that I could not get over.
The Sony has its issues but I think their recent jpeg profiles are pretty good, better AF, and most importantly that f2 lens deliver more than the X100VI lens. I do wish it had IBIS and it certainly overall lacks the charm of the X100VI but it's not bad at all for Sony.
I found the V the best overall camera when I wanted softer, more filmic photos. The VI is neither truly sharp, nor allows for the same type of bloomy look the V did because of the new sensor.
I much prefer the Zf sensor when I want a SHARP photo with a smaller camera footprint. I really wish Nikon would just make an X100 styled clone with the same sensor and a great fixed lens.
The X-E5 is the more alluring camera these days simply because you can put better glass on it vs what you get with the V/VI.
I had the X100F and X100V. Both served me well as a 2nd camera for travel and even jobs when I was a university photographer in my working days. I bought the X100VI twice, at 1599 and 1799 and returned both as each had a loose media door. At the price, I felt that those should not have gone through QC.
I'll try again sometime as I like the VI and hope to get a good one. I found that a small piece 3-4mm of electrical tape at two corners made the door solid but that's Fuji's job for 1799.
I think I got mine May or June of last year----definitely it was worth the wait! I've travelled with it, done some shoots with it and even took it to shoot some pro tennis. Maybe it's not up there with my A6700 and R6MKII but the AF tracking of the X100VI is excellent! The colours are wonderful and superb cropping power! I have no issues with high ISO images since I have both Adobe Photoshop and DXO PL 9 Elite and as well as Topaz AI (Studio for the time being). And I have image stabilization to boot that I use for landscape and architecture shots.
I'm happy with mine. It was recently purchased from B&H. I had an earlier model, years ago, can't recall which but sold it because I wanted a zoom lens. I got the first Sony RX100 model with a real (pop up) viewfinder but now essentially never use it. The phone is a lot easier and makes impressive images. I still like a "real" camera though.
I have a full Sony A7RV setup and way too many lenses so I have no need for another system of lenses, hence avoiding the XE-5. I had to invest in a Small Rig grip and an extra battery but the grip really makes a difference.
It was a bit more expensive than I'd really wanted but when compared with the new $5k Sony RX1R3, or the Leica Q's, it's a genuine bargain. Even though I live in a pretty safe place and don't often go to risky large cities, walking around with a $5k "point and shoot" is more risk than I'm wiling to take.
AZ Photo wrote:
I like most everything about it except the focal length. Bought the X-E5 intending to get rid of the X100VI but may keep both.
There are many little things about the X100VI that I prefer to the X-E5.
On the other hand the little differences make it a pain switching from one to the other.
I was curious if the X-E5 improved things over the X-E3 with my xf35mmf1.4 and 56mmf1.2 original... so I placed a pre-order that I was then going to cancel but Amazon dispatched it quite a bit early and I ended up liking it and keeping it.
X100vi, I just don't have anything else that compact (including how small the bag can be to carry it).
I don't feel that the lens that came with the x-e5 is as good and will be selling it soon. I'd rather have the camera with me than not and I don't feel as awkward taking it with me to situations where anything bigger, I would.
It's the first x100 I've tried. It cuts things close sometimes in terms of image output but I can usually get photos I really like with it and I enjoy using it. Low-light and little background blur at medium distance being the main challenges but can usually get something nice.
Also fun with the wide angle adapter, which kind of defeats the purpose but it's small enough to put somewhere just in case.
Great life documentary camera that I don't really have any issues taking anywhere. But not what I pick up when I want the best images. Can be a fun challenge and it's great to use.
RoamingScott wrote:
I found the V the best overall camera when I wanted softer, more filmic photos. The VI is neither truly sharp, nor allows for the same type of bloomy look the V did because of the new sensor.
I much prefer the Zf sensor when I want a SHARP photo with a smaller camera footprint. I really wish Nikon would just make an X100 styled clone with the same sensor and a great fixed lens.
The X-E5 is the more alluring camera these days simply because you can put better glass on it vs what you get with the V/VI.
Definitely has a much more modern sensor (more natural colours when shooting raw) than my X-E3. Glimmerglass might help in a way:
^ I would probably stick to the very low glimmerglass just to take the edge off as it might be too unsharp otherwise. I know what you mean though, it's a modern sensor. Little higher iso takes the edge off too.
Youtube stills of the x100 with the rx1r iii:
x100 is taller and wider but the lens on the sony makes it look more intimidating but I haven't seen it in person. Possibly it balances out with the smaller body.
the compactness is the main selling point, with better ergonomics and features than the ricoh series for example...which of course is another significant step up in compact/discreetness and also I believe has one model that is slightly tighter focal length.
you're probably going to put a protective filter on a rx1iii, esp. since it's fixed lens, I think those screenshots show the x100 with one already.
f2 at 23mm aps-c is kind of just cutting it for background blur..and the low light, it's why I didn't try too much with the 23mmf2.8 pancake with the x-e5, for general purpose anyway. Out and about in the light, probably fine.
no doubt rx1iii has better image quality, but could be a little more awkward than the x100 in various social situations with that lens - but maybe not signficiantly (or maybe not even at all, I cant say). Especially if you have a nice compact case that's shaped for it, possibly a bit harder with the lens sticking out further than with the the x100.
I use this for casual carrying: https://www.wotancraft.tw/id/product/bcp02-m-blackC with a longer peakdesign strap, it might actually fit with the sony, i dont know. It's a bit tight vertically with the gariz half-leather case on the x100vi, but it fits. Not much in the way of protection, but very compact.
The lack of ibis ive heard is a notable complaint with the high resolution sensor with the sony. And, of course, the price. Puts it out of consideration for me for a daily carry.
If someone offered me a swap I'd most likely take it but I do like the x100vi as a no frets, casual carry with you camera.
Listen, this forum got me a voigtlander addiction, this is a small payback
I got mine during the hype and honestly it’s not too bad. Since I’m not a professional I can give you my insight as a hobbyist; it basically feels like Fuji shoved a bunch of their more modern features into a point and shoot, and the lack of interchangeable lenses just makes it less versatile than the X-T5, which I think is its better counterpart, seeing as they share the same sensor.
Like previous replies said I think that the focal length is a bit awkward but I got the WCL-X100 II coming in soon to convert to a wide angle so I might update when I get that. I think that it has a lot of restrictions and limitations but as a travel camera, I can treat it like any old point and shoot and it works great. Not for the current asking price though.
bombostrous wrote:
I got mine during the hype and honestly it’s not too bad. Since I’m not a professional I can give you my insight as a hobbyist; it basically feels like Fuji shoved a bunch of their more modern features into a point and shoot, and the lack of interchangeable lenses just makes it less versatile than the X-T5, which I think is its better counterpart, seeing as they share the same sensor.
Like previous replies said I think that the focal length is a bit awkward but I got the WCL-X100 II coming in soon to convert to a wide angle so I might update when I get that. I think that it has a lot of restrictions and limitations but as a travel camera, I can treat it like any old point and shoot and it works great. Not for the current asking price though. ...Show more →
As a person who shot non-ILC film cameras decades ago, I’ve generally been a bit baffled by the rush to make fixed lens cameras the primarily tools for photographers. That works for some people, but it is limiting in unnecessary ways and the trade-offs aren’t all that valuable.
Once you start having to add converters to your fixed lens to get the angles-of-view you prefer… it really makes more sense to get a small ILC (interchangeable lens camera) with the focal length that you prefer, possibly two or three small lenses, or even (heaven forbid!!!) a zoom.
I travel with the XT5, and I”m very happy with it. It is a little bigger than the X100 series bodies, but equipped with the 27mm f/2.8 it is still quite small… and quite capable. Or today one could instead get an XE of some sort, perhaps the (overpriced, but interesting) XE5 with the 23mm f/2.8 kit lens.
I could probably do perhaps 90% of my travel photography with the X100vi, saving a small amount of weight and bulk. But I could not do 10% of my photography with that limited system, and that is an important 10%. (I typically add the 14mm f/2.8 and the 50mm f/2.)
I have held and used X100 cameras (though not the X100vi) and I love the way they feel — so I understand the temptation. If anything, such a camera might be best used as a second body to augment a small ILC rather than as one’s only camera.
bombostrous wrote:
I got mine during the hype and honestly it’s not too bad. Since I’m not a professional I can give you my insight as a hobbyist; it basically feels like Fuji shoved a bunch of their more modern features into a point and shoot, and the lack of interchangeable lenses just makes it less versatile than the X-T5, which I think is its better counterpart, seeing as they share the same sensor.
Like previous replies said I think that the focal length is a bit awkward but I got the WCL-X100 II coming in soon to convert to a wide angle so I might update when I get that. I think that it has a lot of restrictions and limitations but as a travel camera, I can treat it like any old point and shoot and it works great. Not for the current asking price though. ...Show more →
But when/if you add the tele or wide adapter, isn't the size magnified to where it's basically equal to the XE5 with the 18 or 56 f1.4 prime mounted? AND you have to carry them around to boot? What am I missing here?
Jack Flesher wrote:
But when/if you add the tele or wide adapter, isn't the size magnified to where it's basically equal to the XE5 with the 18 or 56 f1.4 prime mounted? AND you have to carry them around to boot? What am I missing here?
Not the f1.4 18mm prime, but bigger than the f2:
18-55 f2.8-4 | 18mm f1.4 prime | 18mm f2 prime | x100vi (no adapter)
x100vi + wide angle | x-e5 + 18-55 f2.8-4
The wide-angle adaptor is reasonably small but still a chunk of metal. I think x100vi makes less sense if you were planning to keep the wide angle on most of the time.
