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 p.2 #5 · X2D II vs. M11-P vs. Q3 43 | |
M > Z adapter and a couple Voigts to start being restricted to manual focus only.
Granted, it won't be the rangefinder experience (a different learning curve), but it you don't gel with strictly manual focus, then the M series gets ruled out.
OTOH, if you find that you REALLY DIG the manual focus experience, the M series remains a contender.
Looking at multiple different systems like that Q3 / M11-P / Hassy ... you're gonna get such varied answers that it's gonna be an exercise in ruling out vs. ruling in ... as a piece of the puzzle.
That said, I think you need to do a deeper dive / assessment on what your goals are. Personally, I think everyone (if the means exist) should take a lap with Medium Format at some time in their journey. I'd say the same for giving an M a ride. Both are in the realm of "Rites of Passage" territory, imo. Whether or not someone actually needs it, or will remain with either ... can't say that one is better than the other ... which always winds up with the "better at what", anyway. Very different tools, very different ethos.
Totally different mention of approach, might be an SL2 (for a bargain right now) or SL3. Same ballpark size as the Hassy, but takes the M lenses very well, too.
If size is truly your game ... m43 with Leica PL glass could be a thought.
The tricky part here ... is trying to decipher if you truly have an end game mission ... or, are in exploration mode for different gears. Kinda like asking if I should go from my Camry to a Dodge RAM with diesel engine or a Ford E-Mustang or a Volkswagen mini-bus.
At the core matter of the Hassy is the fact that it is a LEAF SHUTTER system. (IBIS)
The M11 is a rangefinder / MANUAL FOCUS - RANGEFINDER, focal plane shutter, system (None)
The Q3/43 is a LEAF SHUTTER, FIXED LENS system (OIS)
As these are different ethos platforms ... all of which have sufficient MP and sufficient lens IQ to do darn near anything you want, it isn't the "spec sheet" that will make the difference, it is the ethos of operation that you'll come to like or not like for each of them.
There are a variety of ways to skin this cat ... including a mix / match approach. I could offer up several approaches, but I think it's practical to wait and hear a bit more about your reflection on your goals / motivations, too.
I strikes me that your chosen three are all top tier, so I get that you're targeting that ... but, I suspect your curiosity about systems you haven't used is your primary driver on this one, moreover than your actual presentation of your true mission / goals / wants / needs.
As to the M ... get an M10-R or M10 or M240-P or  and a couple of Voigts. You'll be able to use them as your learning curve into the world of M. If you don't have the temperament or patience for the learning curve ... which comes (Steve's 30 Day progression was excellent) with time. If you want instant gratification / instant perfection ... skip the M. It's like learning to drive a manual transmission, and takes time to develop the skill, instead of just mashing the gas with an automatic. For the earnest person, it's a pleasant learning curve. For the impatient person, it can be rather frustrating for some. If you don't like it, the resell holds its value well. That, and you'll have the matter of learning / adjusting your shooting approach similar to the film era (i.e. no IBIS) techniques ... but, that also includes amazing ISO (compared to the film era) options.
More to follow, but that's enough for now. Not sure how much time you have to decide to "pump the brakes" on your Hassy order, but unless you just WANT to experience the HASSY ... which, btw ... is this a "blind" order, or did you demo the Hassy already?
Might consider taking a look at Capture Integration (rental / applies to purchase) for ordering vs. your present order. I've not worked with them, but they catch my attention in this regard.
HTH
Edited on Sep 15, 2025 at 08:08 PM · View previous versions
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. I'm perfectly happy with 24" x 36" prints from my GR III (which is also 24MP's with a great lens). My thought is for those that want the capability to make very nice prints at 36" x 48" plus sizes and/or who find themselves routinely cropping a decent amount. For that user, 100MP's is really nice to have but for the average user, 24MP's is likely even overkill. Most folks are not even making 24" x 36" prints these days.
), but I have hired models and I'm always happy to use my Canon gear in a studio, working with strobes etc. Can't even imagine shooting the M system in a studio setup.