Does anyone know if the new Fuji 23/2.8 lens is noisy when focusing like the Fuji 27/2.8 lens? I was so annoyed by the noise of my Fuji 27 mm lens that I sold it. I sure hope Fuji has made the lens quiet.
It’s quite loud. I don’t have experience with the 27mm, but the loudness is similar to my Nikon 26mm. Definitely not a lens you would want to use for videography.
gaopa wrote:
Does anyone know if the new Fuji 23/2.8 lens is noisy when focusing like the Fuji 27/2.8 lens? I was so annoyed by the noise of my Fuji 27 mm lens that I sold it. I sure hope Fuji has made the lens quiet.
My only comparison is the original 18mm and 35mm, definitely quieter than those. I don't find it particularly loud overall, but definitely louder than the 35mm f2.
In my brief experience with it I’d put it at the same level as the 23mm f/1.4 non-WR and the 16mm f/1.4, and slightly quieter than the first gen 27mm f/2.8 (non-WR). It doesn’t feel modern.
darwinphoto wrote:
I haven't checked - do any reviews have IQ tests? How well does it perform aside from perhaps less than silent auto focus?
Only one I could find says it's good in the middle, but not sogood at the edges, dissapointing really as the 27 gets such good reviews, sounds more like the old 18.
gaopa wrote:
Does anyone know if the new Fuji 23/2.8 lens is noisy when focusing like the Fuji 27/2.8 lens? I was so annoyed by the noise of my Fuji 27 mm lens that I sold it. I sure hope Fuji has made the lens quiet.
This “noisy 27mm f/2.8 lens” meme is truly a Princess and the Pea situation. I’ve used both of the 27mm lenses since they were available, and the aperture ring-equipped version is the lens I use the most on my XT5.
In actual shooting situations I never even notice any noise from the thing. A few months ago, after reading someone’s description of the supposed “horrendous grinding sound” that the lens produced, I was out on a walk in a quiet location and I made a little informal video of the lens in operation. The phone recording the video was closer to the camera initially than your ears will be.
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Is there a sound? There is a small click as it quickly focuses across the ful range from close to far, but I have to listen for it to notice it at all.
The complaints about this being a loud lens are, well… see my Princess and the Pea analogy…
As to the 23mm f/2.8 lens, the real interesting question will be whether its optical performance matches that of the 27mm f/2.8. If so, it will likely be a pretty popular lens for things like travel and street photography..
gdanmitchell wrote:
This “noisy 27mm f/2.8 lens” meme is truly a Princess and the Pea situation. I’ve used both of the 27mm lenses since they were available, and the aperture ring-equipped version is the lens I use the most on my XT5.
In actual shooting situations I never even notice any noise from the thing. A few months ago, after reading someone’s description of the supposed “horrendous grinding sound” that the lens produced, I was out on a walk in a quiet location and I made a little informal video of the lens in operation. The phone recording the video was closer to the camera initially than your ears will be.
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Is there a sound? There is a small click as it quickly focuses across the ful range from close to far, but I have to listen for it to notice it at all.
The complaints about this being a loud lens are, well… see my Princess and the Pea analogy…
As to the 23mm f/2.8 lens, the real interesting question will be whether its optical performance matches that of the 27mm f/2.8. If so, it will likely be a pretty popular lens for things like travel and street photography.....Show more →
I also tend to forget that the noisy AF motor comes up as a thing to talk about online because it is irrelevant to me. I think really small primes are balancing tradeoffs mainly around size, aperture and IQ. There's no free lunch.
gdanmitchell wrote:
This “noisy 27mm f/2.8 lens” meme is truly a Princess and the Pea situation. I’ve used both of the 27mm lenses since they were available, and the aperture ring-equipped version is the lens I use the most on my XT5.
In actual shooting situations I never even notice any noise from the thing. A few months ago, after reading someone’s description of the supposed “horrendous grinding sound” that the lens produced, I was out on a walk in a quiet location and I made a little informal video of the lens in operation. The phone recording the video was closer to the camera initially than your ears will be.
?si=y5Mw2n2y1jefRa1x
Is there a sound? There is a small click as it quickly focuses across the ful range from close to far, but I have to listen for it to notice it at all.
The complaints about this being a loud lens are, well… see my Princess and the Pea analogy…
As to the 23mm f/2.8 lens, the real interesting question will be whether its optical performance matches that of the 27mm f/2.8. If so, it will likely be a pretty popular lens for things like travel and street photography.....Show more →
+1 the 27mm is known as a noisy lens, but in real situations you won't really care about that noise unles you are doing video with camera audio.
I bought the 27mm WR about two months ago and I would change it to the 23mm if the IQ is the same... And if it wasn't $600 right now . I have a Viltrox 23mm f/1.4 which I love, but the compactness of the 27mm makes it so convenient to carry it everywhere.
bencaju wrote:
+1 the 27mm is known as a noisy lens, but in real situations you won't really care about that noise unles you are doing video with camera audio.
I bought the 27mm WR about two months ago and I would change it to the 23mm if the IQ is the same... And if it wasn't $600 right now . I have a Viltrox 23mm f/1.4 which I love, but the compactness of the 27mm makes it so convenient to carry it everywhere.
The 27mm lens is “known as a noisy lens” not because it actually is a noisy lens, but because some have falsely described it that way and then it caught on as a meme. (It is possible that this slight sound could be picked up when. shooting video. I don’t do that with my camera, so I have no way to know.)
I literally cannot hear it unless I’m in a completely silent situation AND remembering to try to listen to it, at which point I can, if I listen carefully, barely hear a very slight sound. It is less loud than the shutter…
It will be interesting to see if the 23mm f/2.8 has the same optical performance as the 27mm f/2.8. The 27mm focal length works perfectly for me as my “always on the camera” lens, being approximately angle-of-view-equivalent to the 40mm, a focal length found on some of the old-school film bodies. (I once had such a lens that I used on an old Pentax film camera.) It sort of splits the difference between the so-called “normal” 50mm FF lenses and the common 35mm FF lenses.
It is probably too soon to know for sure, but I’ve seen a few positive reports.
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CKrueger wrote:
The bad news is, in a quiet room people will know you’re using a camera.
I really doubt they will figure that from the sound of that lens. If it is literally so quiet that you can hear a pin drop and someone is intentionally listening for the sound and has good hearing they might, maybe, just barely be able to hear it. But you, as a photographer, are going to be making at least as much noise by simply moving. And then there’s the shutter… ;-)
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darwinphoto wrote:
So what is the advantage of the pancake over the faster lens? Size and weight at the expense of DoF and brightness?
That’s pretty much it. It is all abou the small size of these lenses. That is a desirable attribute for certain kinds of photography, such as street and travel photography. Fortunately, Fujifilm seems capable of making pancakes that area also optically excellent.
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To a later poster who said that the 35mm f/2.8 is a “no brainer” at $200… I agree!
gdanmitchell wrote:
The 27mm lens is “known as a noisy lens” not because it actually is a noisy lens, but because some have falsely described it that way and then it caught on as a meme. (It is possible that this slight sound could be picked up when. shooting video. I don’t do that with my camera, so I have no way to know.)
I literally cannot hear it unless I’m in a completely silent situation AND remembering to try to listen to it, at which point I can, if I listen carefully, barely hear a very slight sound. It is less loud than the shutter…
It will be interesting to see if the 23mm f/2.8 has the same optical performance as the 27mm f/2.8. The 27mm focal length works perfectly for me as my “always on the camera” lens, being approximately angle-of-view-equivalent to the 40mm, a focal length found on some of the old-school film bodies. (I once had such a lens that I used on an old Pentax film camera.) It sort of splits the difference between the so-called “normal” 50mm FF lenses and the common 35mm FF lenses.
It is probably too soon to know for sure, but I’ve seen a few positive reports. ...Show more →
Just loaded a couple of files from last weekend although I mostly had the 18 on it. Thge 23 looks pretty reasonable in the shots I do have with it. Let me know if you want me to sends you some raws/jpegs I live in a brick building sure I could find a way to torture it.
X-E5XF23mmF2.8 R WR lens23mmf/5.61/6s125 ISO0.0 EV
rbf_ wrote:
Just loaded a couple of files from last weekend although I mostly had the 18 on it. Thge 23 looks pretty reasoble in the shots I do have with it. Let me know if you want me to sends you some raws/jpegs I live in a brick building sure I could find a way to torture it.
Do you live in Maine or are you just visiting Nubble Light. I live in Maine so that Light House is very familiar to me. Nice shot.
swldstn wrote:
Do you live in Maine or are you just visiting Nubble Light. I live in Maine so that Light House is very familiar to me. Nice shot.
Thanks! No I'm currently in New Hampshire(from MA) but I'm exploring the coastal areas of Maine a lot in recent years. I was on my way up to Portland. Maybe I'll move up the way sometime I love it up there.
rbf_ wrote:
Just loaded a couple of files from last weekend although I mostly had the 18 on it. Thge 23 looks pretty reasonable in the shots I do have with it. Let me know if you want me to sends you some raws/jpegs I live in a brick building sure I could find a way to torture it.
The full image looks good… and makes me jealous, as we had to revise some upcoming east coast travel plans that _would_ have taken us to Maine but now won’t!
If you have the time and inclination to do it, it would be interesting to see some crops from different parts of the frame: center and some corners perhaps?
gdanmitchell wrote:
The full image looks good… and makes me jealous, as we had to revise some upcoming east coast travel plans that _would_ have taken us to Maine but now won’t!
If you have the time and inclination to do it, it would be interesting to see some crops from different parts of the frame: center and some corners perhaps?
Thanks,
Dan
The 23 f2.8 is plenty sharp Dan
Click on the Flickr link for accuracy.
The 23 f2.8 seems plenty sharp right out to the edges on my copy at f2.8
These are my standard testing shots. I currently have no other Fuji lenses but here's the frame shot with a Sony FF and 50mm lens at f2
And then the Fuji at f2.8 and a fuji crop of that shot to see sharpness. All jpg because of no raw converter yet.
. I have a Viltrox 23mm f/1.4 which I love, but the compactness of the 27mm makes it so convenient to carry it everywhere.
