p.4 #6 · After 13 years of all Sony, I'm trying Nikon
MikeEvangelist wrote:
Well, nine days into this Nikon journey, I think I need a Z8. The Z6iii is really fabulous, but I miss the crop-ability of my A7Rv. And the extra sharpness that comes with no low-pass filter. The Z8 should address both those gaps.
I don't know if it's because of the Megadap Pro+ or the Z6III OLPF, but my Sony lenses are slightly softer when I pixel peep than on my Sony cameras, even my old A7III.
p.4 #7 · After 13 years of all Sony, I'm trying Nikon
MikeEvangelist wrote:
Well, nine days into this Nikon journey, I think I need a Z8. The Z6iii is really fabulous, but I miss the crop-ability of my A7Rv. And the extra sharpness that comes with no low-pass filter. The Z8 should address both those gaps.
Dynamic range on the Z8 can be a stop worse than the A1ii and A9iii at the same iso.
p.4 #8 · After 13 years of all Sony, I'm trying Nikon
RoamingScott wrote:
One difference you'll notice from Sony is that Nikon improved the AF box usability without requiring you to pay $5000 for a new model
But you are going to have to buy a new model if you want AF that works reliably. Not much point having an AF box if it doesn't reliably tell you if you actually have focus.
Maybe the Z9ii in 2026 ? But then perhaps not since most Nikon users seem to be quite happy with the current performance so not too much incentive for Nikon to develop a new better model.
p.4 #9 · After 13 years of all Sony, I'm trying Nikon
RoamingScott wrote:
One difference you'll notice from Sony is that Nikon improved the AF box usability without requiring you to pay $5000 for a new model
At Sony you pay 5000 for a new model, at Nikon you pay 700 for a silver paint job on the old model.
p.4 #10 · After 13 years of all Sony, I'm trying Nikon
Keunish wrote:
I don't know if it's because of the Megadap Pro+ or the Z6III OLPF, but my Sony lenses are slightly softer when I pixel peep than on my Sony cameras, even my old A7III.
Sony has a thicker optical sensor stack than Nikon and Sony lenses are optimized for that. I believe the effect on the image is more pronounced the shorter the lens and more towards the outer image areas. Never tested this myself, though.
p.4 #13 · After 13 years of all Sony, I'm trying Nikon
I pre-ordered the Nikon D800E thirteen years ago and shot it for some time, moving to the D810, then D850 (concurrently shooting Sony mirrorless, as the Sony models moved from the crude A7R to the, now amazing, A1 II and A7R5). As such, I still have an affinity for Nikon hardware.
While I do not wish to complicate my already extensive photography kit, as I actually try to simplify it, I feel the tug of acquiring a used Z8 (adapting Sony lenses) - just for 'sh_its & giggles'. What holds me back, is the difference in cover-glass thickness between Sony and Nikon. I have read numerous posts citing that the Sony glass does not perform as well on the Nikon bodies.
I would welcome any insights and information relating to Sony lens performance when adapted and shot on Nikon bodies.
p.4 #14 · After 13 years of all Sony, I'm trying Nikon
From the reports here, it seems the cover glass thickness difference comes into play mostly when shooting fast ultrawides...
InFocus2014 wrote:
I pre-ordered the Nikon D800E thirteen years ago and shot it for some time, moving to the D810, then D850 (concurrently shooting Sony mirrorless, as the Sony models moved from the crude A7R to the, now amazing, A1 II and A7R5). As such, I still have an affinity for Nikon hardware.
While I do not wish to complicate my already extensive photography kit, as I actually try to simplify it, I feel the tug of acquiring a used Z8 (adapting Sony lenses) - just for 'sh_its & giggles'. What holds me back, is the difference in cover-glass thickness between Sony and Nikon. I have read numerous posts citing that the Sony glass does not perform as well on the Nikon bodies.
I would welcome any insights and information relating to Sony lens performance when adapted and shot on Nikon bodies.
p.4 #15 · After 13 years of all Sony, I'm trying Nikon
InFocus2014 wrote:
What holds me back, is the difference in cover-glass thickness between Sony and Nikon. I have read numerous posts citing that the Sony glass does not perform as well on the Nikon bodies.
I would welcome any insights and information relating to Sony lens performance when adapted and shot on Nikon bodies.
I've heard that too. I'll have to take a closer look before I get into Nikon any deeper.
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j4nu wrote:
From the reports here, it seems the cover glass thickness difference comes into play mostly when shooting fast ultrawides...
For sure I will try to evaluate how my Sony lenses (especially the 14mm GM) perform on the Nikon vs the Sony. But it's a complicated by A7RV being 61ppx and having no LPF, compared to 24mpx for the Z6iii which does have a LPF. A more valid comparison will come when/if I end up with a Z8.
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p.4 #16 · After 13 years of all Sony, I'm trying Nikon
InFocus2014 wrote:
I pre-ordered the Nikon D800E thirteen years ago and shot it for some time, moving to the D810, then D850 (concurrently shooting Sony mirrorless, as the Sony models moved from the crude A7R to the, now amazing, A1 II and A7R5). As such, I still have an affinity for Nikon hardware.
While I do not wish to complicate my already extensive photography kit, as I actually try to simplify it, I feel the tug of acquiring a used Z8 (adapting Sony lenses) - just for 'sh_its & giggles'. What holds me back, is the difference in cover-glass thickness between Sony and Nikon. I have read numerous posts citing that the Sony glass does not perform as well on the Nikon bodies.
I would welcome any insights and information relating to Sony lens performance when adapted and shot on Nikon bodies.
As usual with cover glass issues, short exit pupils and large apertures pose the most problems. I wouldn't think a 200 f/2 which has a long exit pupil and a fairly moderate aperture (f/2 is fast, but not the f/1.2 that is more likely to cause problems) would adapt well.
p.4 #17 · After 13 years of all Sony, I'm trying Nikon
I'm sure you will notice the difference even now, the corners are really mushy AFAIR.
MikeEvangelist wrote:
I've heard that too. I'll have to take a closer look before I get into Nikon any deeper.
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For sure I will try to evaluate how my Sony lenses (especially the 14mm GM) perform on the Nikon vs the Sony. But it's a complicated by A7RV being 61ppx and having no LPF, compared to 24mpx for the Z6iii which does have a LPF. A more valid comparison will come when/if I end up with a Z8.
p.4 #19 · After 13 years of all Sony, I'm trying Nikon
InFocus2014 wrote:
I pre-ordered the Nikon D800E thirteen years ago and shot it for some time, moving to the D810, then D850 (concurrently shooting Sony mirrorless, as the Sony models moved from the crude A7R to the, now amazing, A1 II and A7R5). As such, I still have an affinity for Nikon hardware.
While I do not wish to complicate my already extensive photography kit, as I actually try to simplify it, I feel the tug of acquiring a used Z8 (adapting Sony lenses) - just for 'sh_its & giggles'. What holds me back, is the difference in cover-glass thickness between Sony and Nikon....Show more →
I'm in the same boat. Ended up going to lensrentals.com and ordering a Z8 with several adapters for F, M, and E mounts. Did not notice the sensor stack thickness getting in the way. But my use case did not involve anything wider than 50mm.
p.4 #20 · After 13 years of all Sony, I'm trying Nikon
I’m of the mind that there is value in having a Z8 for the better native Z options and a Sony for the better native E options, should one actually care that much.
