p.2 #2 · Sony RX1R MkIII: A beautiful camera with a second to none lens
chez wrote:
How many of your wide open shots have details at the far edges? There are tests and then there are actual use cases.
Agreed, I don't need sharpness at the far edges. However, if we're talking about a "second to none lens", and this fixed lens camera is priced for high quality, then it is fair to make some comparisons to see whether the lens really is that good. Kyle's review is generally favorable about the RXR1iii lens, but it was not impressive in that comparison with the 35mm GM lens. Of course, the 35mm GM lens is a very high standard, and it's possible he got a bad copy of the RX1Riii. It would be interesting to see center and edge comparisons to the Sigma 35/2, Sony 35/1.8 and Leica Q series lenses.
p.2 #3 · Sony RX1R MkIII: A beautiful camera with a second to none lens
It's a tempting camera, but difficult for me to justify when I have an A7RV and a Batis 40 lens.
Yes, the RX1 is much smaller, but the size of my own kit doesn't stop me from doing anything.
The bigger size is an inconvenience only when I'm packing for a trip, and I can't access the camera during air travel, so no big diff.
I guess I need more than a smaller footprint and a pound of weight to make the jump. Some truly unique feature that I would find irresistible.
Still, when my local store gets one in stock, I'll go check it out.
p.2 #4 · Sony RX1R MkIII: A beautiful camera with a second to none lens
NJPhotographer wrote:
Look at the 100% edge of frame crop in Kyle's review. What do you see?
I can only tell you what I have seen in my comparison shots between the Q2, Voigtländer 35 and RX1R MKII: Amazing sharpness across wide open for the Sony.
p.2 #5 · Sony RX1R MkIII: A beautiful camera with a second to none lens
freaklikeme wrote:
They made one for the first model. It was a shoe mount, and I'm not sure it will fit in the new shoe, but it's probably worth a look.
p.2 #6 · Sony RX1R MkIII: A beautiful camera with a second to none lens
ArcPhotography wrote:
I actually wish my RX1R ii had a "crop" mode like other Sony FF cameras. Yes, the camera lens is FF, however, with 42mp, a little more reach (even at lower resolution) can be handy. I like the fact the new one has three different crops you acn go into.
From one review I saw, the "crop" (or Step Zoom as it's named by Sony) works more like "aspect" on other Sony cameras. That is to say, the full RAW file is saved and the crop can be removed or changed in Lightroom.
It would be nice if APS-C crop was also available. I often run my A1 at 21MP RAW file, which makes the full-frame and APS-C crop files the same size. This is plenty for many things I do now, I usually deliver smaller res files for the work I'm doing these days.
p.2 #7 · Sony RX1R MkIII: A beautiful camera with a second to none lens
Sometimes, things happen quickly. Received a very good offer from my local dealer for my RX1R Mk II - and ordered the RX1R Mk III. Very much looking forward to it.
p.2 #8 · Sony RX1R MkIII: A beautiful camera with a second to none lens
kenthomson wrote:
From one review I saw, the "crop" (or Step Zoom as it's named by Sony) works more like "aspect" on other Sony cameras. That is to say, the full RAW file is saved and the crop can be removed or changed in Lightroom.
I don't know which other models you're referring to, but with the A7iv, the RAW file is definitely cropped in crop mode (1.5x), and the full frame can't be restored later in LR. This is only possible when selecting the format (3:4, 1:1, or 9x:16). Or is that exactly what you mean? I would find it very strange if Sony had handled this differently for different models.
p.2 #9 · Sony RX1R MkIII: A beautiful camera with a second to none lens
I am neither against it nor intrigued by it. I do like small and light cameras but I care about some features which are missing in this particular model. So it's not for me. If i had the budget, I would more likely opt for A7c r (or A7c ii) plus some good quality compact lenses. However, I see some people may really want it for their own reasons. It could be for the size and weight. It fits into some pockets that almost no other FF camera would fit. Some women may like it because it fits into their purse. For one who wants to carry a camera with him/her all the time, the minimal weight can make it real possible.
p.2 #10 · Sony RX1R MkIII: A beautiful camera with a second to none lens
Nifty Fifty wrote:
I don't know which other models you're referring to, but with the A7iv, the RAW file is definitely cropped in crop mode (1.5x), and the full frame can't be restored later in LR. This is only possible when selecting the format (3:4, 1:1, or 9x:16). Or is that exactly what you mean? I would find it very strange if Sony had handled this differently for different models.
p.2 #11 · Sony RX1R MkIII: A beautiful camera with a second to none lens
Reviews say that there is some softness towards the corners wide open. That's perfectly fine. At f2, I want the background to be soft but the center to be sharp.
p.2 #14 · Sony RX1R MkIII: A beautiful camera with a second to none lens
You may not, but with distortion so high that it requires both a wider lens than advertised, to crop, a complex software adjustment and weaker than would be sharpness, I would. The Sony 28MM, which is a very cheap lens, is arguable as strong or stronger.
Nielk Mike wrote:
Not sure if I would call it weak. But it is certainly less sharp across wide open than the RX1 lens.
p.2 #15 · Sony RX1R MkIII: A beautiful camera with a second to none lens
AndrewNYC wrote:
You may not, but with distortion so high that it requires both a wider lens than advertised, to crop, a complex software adjustment and weaker than would be sharpness, I would. The Sony 28MM, which is a very cheap lens, is arguable as strong or stronger.
I have owned the 28f2 and it wasn't really sharp across until stopped down to f4. The Leica lens is much better, with the biggest difference to also the RX1 being the real MF functionality.
p.2 #18 · Sony RX1R MkIII: A beautiful camera with a second to none lens
Camera arrived this morning. It is beautiful! But RAW files don't import into LR :-( But they do open in Camera Raw. First impression: As expected, it is now a "real" alpha camera. Control layout, menu, just like (almost) my a7cR. It feels good in my hand and I can reach all buttons needed for operation with the thumb and pointer finger of my right hand.
First look at image quality confirms that the lens gets softer towards the edges at f2, and is at it is best at f5.6 across (but already plenty good at the edges at f4). Cropping shows some shimmering in the EVF at 70mm - not too bad - and I am happy that there is in-camera cropping at all!
This afternoon, I will tale it out into the streets. So far, I think it was a good decision to sell the MkII and get the new one.
p.2 #19 · Sony RX1R MkIII: A beautiful camera with a second to none lens
Nifty Fifty wrote:
Three parallel threads for a camera everyone's talking about but hardly anyone will buy. Nonsense.
Maybe I'm an old coot, but I grew up with "what wins on Sunday sells on Monday" and its not like grandpa could go out and buy the #3 but he might make a b-line to his GM dealer just the same.
Manufacturers sometimes invest in flashy products or adventures that will never sell, or sell much, just to enhance the brand stature. It also becomes a R&D project that benefits trickle down to more mainstream products.
Whatever the reason, it has us talking, a lot, and you know the old saw from PT Barnum, no such thing as bad publicity, heh.
p.2 #20 · Sony RX1R MkIII: A beautiful camera with a second to none lens
Update: The colors this camera produces are really good. a7cR was already good. But this one looks even better. Just canceled my Fuji X-E5 pre-order as I don't need another small package anymore.
