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 p.11 #7 · Official: Sony RX1R III Digital Camera announced! | |
weezintrumpete wrote:
Products are all about compromises, and finding the right ones that fit the target market are what matters. We'll see if Sony did that here.
I agree that all products involve compromises: flexibility, size, weight, cost, speed, etc.
The fact of compromise itself is neither good nor bad. It just is.
However, the discussion here gets at the question of the value of the specific compromises made in this product. Depending on the circumstances, not all compromises are equally good or appropriate. It isn’t enough to say “compromise is good, leaving out IBIS is a compromise, therefore leaving out IBIS is good.”
Continuing to use the IBIS issue as a focus of this thought, it is fine to point out that people “miss the point” that the goal of the camera is to be a high performance camera in a very small package, declare that it is that, and dismiss the question. But it would _still_ be a small and light. and high performance product if, for example, IBIS was included — the cost in size/weight would likely be trivial and the performance of the system would be even higher.
Is leaving out IBIS a good “compromise” or a poor one? Sounds like a whole lot of people don’t think the omission of IBIS added value to the camera.
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hasenbein wrote:
Lee Morris tells it exactly like it is.
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Fixed it: " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Lee Morris tells it exactly like it is.
(I don’t know who Lee Morris is or whether he tells it exactly like it is, but now the link works. (Just use the link button in the sidebar to create links in our post.)
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rodsandcones wrote:
Tariffs have been mentioned obliquely a few times, but specifics are obviously difficult.
The bottom line is that the import taxes paid by American buyers (e.g. “tariffs”) must unavoidably raise prices. How much is a tricky question.
Given the uncertainty about the actual tariffs (10% this week, over 200% threatened another week, then maybe 30%, and who knows what is next), manufacturers are having to come up with pricing that accounts for all of these possibilities. They aren’t all doing this the same way, but one strategy seems to be to come up with a very high list price (high enough to cover most likely eventualities) and then keep in mind that they can always offer sales and deals if the worst feared tariffs don’t get implemented.
We’ve already seen suggestions that this is happening, with price increases announced and almost immediately followed by “X dollars off” discounts. Sadly, the “discounts,” at best, have brought the new prices close to the old.
Bottom line: We’re all going to pay a lot more of a whole lot of products — not just cameras.
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chiron wrote:
The A7CR and A7CII with a small lens attached are actually very similar in size to the RX1RIII. For most purposes, their size would be equivalent.
This is a pretty common thing, it turns out.
fujifilm has made waves with their popular X100vi, by all accounts a credible little camera that takes a similar approach. But you can get their ILC XE models and put one of their pancake lenses on it… and it is about the same size and weight as the X100vi, plus you get to use interchangeable lenses.
I understand photographing with only a single prime. But I think that a lot of people might prefer a different prime than the 35mm focal length… and they are pretty likely to encounter some situations where it wold be pretty useful to be able to move to a different focal length or even attach a zoom.
Edited on Jul 16, 2025 at 09:22 AM · View previous versions
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