The Exposure comp dial on the XT is useless. Turn it into a psam and the XT’s biggest problem is solved. Adjusing aperture and exposure comp with command wheels is more natural and faster than using a dial and lens ring.
Jack Flesher wrote:
The Exposure comp dial on the XT is useless. Turn it into a psam and the XT’s biggest problem is solved. Adjusing aperture and exposure comp with command wheels is more natural and faster than using a dial and lens ring.
Jack Flesher wrote:
The Exposure comp dial on the XT is useless. Turn it into a psam and the XT’s biggest problem is solved. Adjusing aperture and exposure comp with command wheels is more natural and faster than using a dial and lens ring.
Wow, Jack. The EC dial is “useless!?”
I totally disagree.
I rely on it all the time, and it is quick and intuitive to use, even when my eye is to the viewfinder. Using it is actually pretty fundamental to how I shoot street.
I use one (non-Fujifilm) system with PASM and I use the XT5 without it. Compensating for exposure issues with the EC knob is really fast and straightforward.
I usually shoot street in aperture priority mode — as long as the shutter speed is OK, to my way of thinking the aperture is a more critical decision. So I select the aperture I want and then keep an eye on shutter speed to ensure that I don’t go to low, and I’ll make a quick ISO adjustment if necessary.
However, in a lot of cases “stuff happens” in the scene that the AE system doesn’t quite catch. (This isn’t just a Fujifilm thing — it is the nature of AE systems.) For example, There might be very bright sky in a scene that includes shadows. Or the whole scene might have extremely low contrast. In the first case I probably want to decrease the exposure to protect the highlights, planning to bring the shadows back in post. (Anyone who knows about the zone system is familiar with this line of thought.) Or I may want to slighlty increase the exposure in that extremely low contrast scene to center the histogram a bit more to the right.
I do these things on the fly with the EC knob. It is quick and intuitive. Because the knob is dedicated to this one function, there’s never any confusion about what it does and and I don’t need ot make an preliminary mode selections to tell a knob to be EC and not ISO or something else.
I understand how to do EC with a modal PASM interface, and I appreciate that you might love that and feel that the dedicated control isn’t what YOU want… but to say it is worthless is a bit over the top! ;-)
Jack Flesher wrote:
The Exposure comp dial on the XT is useless. Turn it into a psam and the XT’s biggest problem is solved. Adjusing aperture and exposure comp with command wheels is more natural and faster than using a dial and lens ring.
Stirring up the hornets this morning, Jack? I actually find the Gfx implementation fine but they X-T layout is a thing of beauty and needs to be left alone. You SPASM people have nearly all the other cameras to choose from, leave us in peace with our top dials.
SGinNorcal wrote:
Stirring up the hornets this morning, Jack? I actually find the Gfx implementation fine but they X-T layout is a thing of beauty and needs to be left alone. You SPASM people have nearly all the other cameras to choose from, leave us in peace with our top dials.
PASM was the worst thing that ever happened to the GFX system. The top plate dials of the GFX50S were perfect. The X-T5/6 is also perfect.
highdesertmesa wrote:
I would like to see the X-T6 replace the ISO dial with the film sim dial then use the shutter speed ISO combo dial from the X100VI.
With that comment, you might as well declare war with X-T5 shooters
They should do 2 versions of X-T6. One with traditional dials to cater to "serious" folks and one with film simulation dial for fun folks like us
SGinNorcal wrote:
Stirring up the hornets this morning, Jack? I actually find the Gfx implementation fine but they X-T layout is a thing of beauty and needs to be left alone. You SPASM people have nearly all the other cameras to choose from, leave us in peace with our top dials.
Jack Flesher wrote:
The Exposure comp dial on the XT is useless. Turn it into a psam and the XT’s biggest problem is solved. Adjusing aperture and exposure comp with command wheels is more natural and faster than using a dial and lens ring.
For me the XT dials are more natural and faster. I use both Fuji and Sony systems and I would have preferred if my Sony also had the dials. PASM also works, but XT dials are simply the more natural way for me. Your preference might be different which is fine.
Btw you do know right that even on XT cameras you can configure them to change the aperture, shutter speed and ISO using command dials if you want.
curious80 wrote:
For me the XT dials are more natural and faster. I use both Fuji and Sony systems and I would have preferred if my Sony also had the dials. PASM also works, but XT dials are simply the more natural way for me. Your preference might be different which is fine.
Btw you do know right that even on XT cameras you can configure them to change the aperture, shutter speed and ISO using command dials if you want.
Yes, I do know that. However, switching between A and M for example if wanting the respective controls at the command wheels requires a ridiculous number of menu iterations. I prefer front command wheel for Aperture or SS and rear for EC, or in M mode Aperture and SS — it’s immeasurably faster to make required adjustments on the fly without moving my eyes from the finder this way compared to old style dials. Of course all this is easy to set up this way in MASP cameras like the XH2.
Jack Flesher wrote:
Yes, I do know that. However, switching between A and M for example if wanting the respective controls at the command wheels requires a ridiculous number of menu iterations. I prefer front command wheel for Aperture or SS and rear for EC, or in M mode Aperture and SS — it’s immeasurably faster to make required adjustments on the fly without moving my eyes from the finder this way compared to old style dials. Of course all this is easy to set up this way in MASP cameras like the XH2.
Not to beat this to death, its all good no matter and I think it awesome we effectively get to choose the version we like. For me, besides liking top dials, I do a lot of "pre-setting" prior to bringing my eye to the EVF when hiking. I often see the scene while approaching and will check my aperture and ISO setting looking down at the camera hanging from my neck. With the Gfx, the secondary screen makes up for lacking top dials. Then when I get to the spot where I want to compose, its just a quick check to make sure everything looks good and fire away. Hiking or walking is my primary use case for my X-T5.
I am OK with the combo ISO/Shutter speeds dial — I liked it on my XPro2. But please don’t put that gimmickly “sim” dial on a serious little camera like the XT.
I do wish the X-E5 had the SS/ISO combo dial. As for the X-T5/6? Having additional combo dials for SIMS or maybe drive modes wouldn't bother me as long as it didn't interfere with their primary function.
For me, it's entirely a question of form factor. I had both the X100Vi and X-T5*. I loved the shooting experience of the X100VI, but wanted more flexibility. I prefer 28mme most of the time. I opted to sell off the X100VI and keep the X-T5. That was until they announced the X-E5. I have the kit with the 23mm on pre-order, an 18mm f/2, and a 35mm f/1.4 waiting on a shelf for its arrival. I'll probably add something wide at some point, but that will be it.
I agree that the X-T5 is a "better" camera than the X-E5, it's just not better for me and how I use Fuji gear.
*Full disclosure, I'm glad Steve is enjoying my X-T5.
As someone who started their photography journey with film, the X-T5 controls feel natural to me. I wouldn't change them on a X-T6.
My wife is a casual shooter. The X-S20 PASM controls make more sense to her. The interface on the body is well thought out. I would have loved a dedicated exposure comp dial but the implementation is fine.
I've pre-ordered the X-E5 as an EDC. I would have loved to have the combination ISO dial like the X100VI but I'm fine with the setup.
I'm really looking forward to the film simulation dial on the X-E5. I think it is going to create a new aspect to my how I capture images. I'd be okay with a X-E5 film simulation dial on a X-T6. I think the X-E5 approach is simple and elegant.
I realize I'm extremely fortunate to have these different bodies available. The different bodies, and lenses, make for wildly different shooting experiences and a whole lot of fun!
For some reason, I've never really been attracted to the Fuji XT cameras. I did try one and sold it shortly afterward. I've also tried a X-Pro and didn't like it much.
I do like the X-E4, the X100V and the GFX100s. I have the X-E5 on pre-order and plan to sell the X-E4.
I found that while I love the look of the dials, in reality they don't make much of a difference to me. What makes much more of a difference is an aperture ring and a depth-of-field scale on the lens.
That way I can use my wide angle lenses using zone focusing, while using longer lenses on AF.
johnvanr wrote:
For some reason, I've never really been attracted to the Fuji XT cameras. I did try one and sold it shortly afterward. I've also tried a X-Pro and didn't like it much.
I do like the X-E4, the X100V and the GFX100s. I have the X-E5 on pre-order and plan to sell the X-E4.
I found that while I love the look of the dials, in reality they don't make much of a difference to me. What makes much more of a difference is an aperture ring and a depth-of-field scale on the lens.
That way I can use my wide angle lenses using zone focusing, while using longer lenses on AF. ...Show more →
You do know you get a digital DoF scale inside the EVF of Fuji cams, right? It’s actually very readable and accurate too.
I was an early X-T5 adopter. I do only photography, no video. I prefer scenery and usually use my manual focus lenses.
I considered swapping to an X-E5 to get the rangefinder experience but the EVF isn't as good and the tilt screen isn't quite as good. I'll stick with my X-T5.
highdesertmesa wrote:
PASM was the worst thing that ever happened to the GFX system. The top plate dials of the GFX50S were perfect. The X-T5/6 is also perfect.
Agreed. The output from my GFX 100S is outstanding but I just flat out hate the controls. Not nearly as fun or intuitive to me as the X-Tx layout or X Pro layout.
liggy wrote:
Agreed. The output from my GFX 100S is outstanding but I just flat out hate the controls. Not nearly as fun or intuitive to me as the X-Tx layout or X Pro layout.
It would be amazing to get GFX variants of the XT-5 (true 50S successor) and X-Pro (50R successor improved by adding the SS/ISO combo dial). They have every variant under the sun for the X series, so why not?
