p.3 #1 · What is your wish list for the Sony A7RVI
^^^ no kidding! Each incarnation of A7R* (36, 42, 60) yelled size & weight penalties, so A7R6 may be no exception. Surely, with 80MP (as rumored) it will be a great landscape/cityscape camera, possible stretching techno boundaries (digital noise) but let's see and judge when it's out. Who knows.
p.3 #2 · What is your wish list for the Sony A7RVI
I myself am beginning to have megapixel fatigue. I always wanted more pixels, but now that its 61 I’m starting to feel I’ve reached the point where I don’t need anymore and that more might actually be a hindrance. I vote for features that increase image quality without increasing file size. But I guess Sony would like bragging rights to hold over the competition.
p.3 #3 · What is your wish list for the Sony A7RVI
JaKo wrote:
^^^ no kidding! Each incarnation of A7R* (36, 42, 60) yelled size & weight penalties, so A7R6 may be no exception. Surely, with 80MP (as rumored) it will be a great landscape/cityscape camera, possible stretching techno boundaries (digital noise) but let's see and judge when it's out. Who knows.
IIRC the first two, a7R and a7RII, used that puny little NP-FW50 that lasted only minutes. The a7RIV was almost 6 years ago so an a7RVI should be able to do 80MP in the same size package with a higher FPS. I'm most interested in gaining reach for the teles.
p.3 #5 · What is your wish list for the Sony A7RVI
aCuria wrote:
Lenses can project a round image circle, so make a round 35mm diameter sensor, or square sensor. Let us toggle between 3:2, 4:5, 1:1 and so on.
Fix the problem where 2/3 of the light is thrown away due to the RGB filters. 3 layer stacked sensor, license foveron or whatever
Faster sensor readout for video mode.
fps can remain at 10 but lets have more af calculations per second
A 35 mm circle will only give you an APS-H 3:2 frame. You need a 43 mm circle for FF. And then you are basically paying for a medium format sensor. Just get one of those instead.
Also, many lenses have rear baffles that will not allow the projection of the full image circle. Not to mention that the electronic contacts are in the way.
p.3 #6 · What is your wish list for the Sony A7RVI
Makten wrote:
A 35 mm circle will only give you an APS-H 3:2 frame. You need a 43 mm circle for FF. And then you are basically paying for a medium format sensor. Just get one of those instead.
Also, many lenses have rear baffles that will not allow the projection of the full image circle. Not to mention that the electronic contacts are in the way.
The rear baffle issue should be something that can be solved without too much technical difficulty.
A 43mm circle would be even better.
MF means 2 sets of lenses if you want FF for sports and MF for landscapes for example
p.3 #7 · What is your wish list for the Sony A7RVI
WillR wrote:
I have an A7RIV Many of the features in the A7RV are things I'd like (focus bracketing, better stabilization etc), but I upgrade every other camera cycle, so I'll get those with whatever else the A7RVI brings. But there are some things I'd like to see in addition.
In general, I think Sony is (surprisingly) behind many other camera makers in some of the non-optical, more computational, aspects of modern cameras. their AF is of course great, but why did it take so long to add focus bracketing? So in that spirit
1. I like the R series not because I need 60 or more megapixels for any output I produce, but because i want to be able to crop and still have at least 20 or more megapixels left. This allows me to pick different aspect ratios, find a picture in a picture, "extend" the long end of my lenses, etc. In my A7RIV I often enable the crop mode for composition help. That is, if i want to extend the long end of my lens the crop mode lets me see what this will look like. In fact, sometimes I enable crop mode for composition, but then take the picture in non-crop mode. Why can't Sony allow us to pick many different kinds of crop modes to see in the EVF, and assign them to a button or dial? I don't need the camera to actually produce a cropped image (at least in raw). I just want to see it. The Fuji GFX100RF has an aspect ratio dial. Why can't a high megapixels Sony have one too?
2. All the AF stuff is great, but why can't I have a function that automatically sets my focus to the hyperfocal point? The camera knows everything it needs to to do this
3. Perhaps a little harder, why can't I set two focus points in a frame and have the camera adjust the focus and/or the aperture so that they are both (reasonably) in focus?
4. Olympus has their "electronic ND" filter effect. It'd be harder for a high res Sony, but pretty neat if it could work.
5. Many other camera brands do double exposure in camera. A lot of the ICM folk like that. Its not really my thing but it does have utility, and again the other companies can do that processing. Why not Sony?
Most of these things would be worth more to me than going from a 60 megapixels sensor to an 80.
We will see what we end up with (I'd guess sometime next year).
#3 also kinda exists but it is a video feature on some of the zv-e cameras where it tries to get all the faces in focus or something. That said, after a while you do memorize what apertures to use.
#4 is the wrong thing to ask for IMO. It would be better to get iso 50/25/10/5/1 and the dynamic range that comes with ultra low iso.
p.3 #8 · What is your wish list for the Sony A7RVI
white wrote:
I myself am beginning to have megapixel fatigue. I always wanted more pixels, but now that its 61 I’m starting to feel I’ve reached the point where I don’t need anymore and that more might actually be a hindrance. I vote for features that increase image quality without increasing file size. But I guess Sony would like bragging rights to hold over the competition.
I think the best overall balance of IQ was achieved with the 40-45 non-stacked sensors that Sony made for themselves and others.
The A1/A1ii and Z8/Z9 sensors lack a little of that special sauce that the A7R3 and Z7ii had. I'd rather have 40mp and tons of quality of life features that make capturing and transferring more seamless. I'm unwilling to go back to those bodies because they are slow and clunky for many applications compared to the "good enough" newer versions.
p.3 #9 · What is your wish list for the Sony A7RVI
white wrote:
I myself am beginning to have megapixel fatigue. I always wanted more pixels, but now that its 61 I’m starting to feel I’ve reached the point where I don’t need anymore and that more might actually be a hindrance. I vote for features that increase image quality without increasing file size. But I guess Sony would like bragging rights to hold over the competition.
I agree and remember years ago when it looked like the megapixel race was over only for it to start up again (probably thanks to Sony). The only argument for high-megapixel FF cameras is that you then get a highish-megapixel APS-C option (26MP in the case of the A7R5) with the main downsides being the laws of physics when it comes to noise, DR, etc.
TBH I'm a bit puzzled when I see people calling for 80-100MP FF cameras when good medium-format options exist. IMO 40-50MP is the sweet spot for FF -- plenty of pixels for cropping but not so many you start to push the limits of noise, processing power and storage. If Sony were to ever start the A8 series then I'd wish for what I had hoped the A93 would be -- a 30-ish MP high-speed, stacked-sensor general purpose camera... sorta like a faster, stacked A74. Not that I'm complaining about Sony's A93 global sensor breakthrough, but that's a bit of a niche product.
p.3 #10 · What is your wish list for the Sony A7RVI
aCuria wrote:
Fix the problem where 2/3 of the light is thrown away due to the RGB filters. 3 layer stacked sensor, license foveron or whatever
It must be close to 10 years of hopping for a FF Foveon sensor. For all I know we may still be another 10 years away, but at some point I think multilayer sensors will provide a big jump in IQ.
p.3 #11 · What is your wish list for the Sony A7RVI
Makten wrote:
A 35 mm circle will only give you an APS-H 3:2 frame. You need a 43 mm circle for FF. And then you are basically paying for a medium format sensor. Just get one of those instead.
Also, many lenses have rear baffles that will not allow the projection of the full image circle. Not to mention that the electronic contacts are in the way.
Now I want a medium format digital with a round sensor. Thanks a lot.
I doubt we'll ever see a round sensor, simply because the sensor manufacturers would have to change their entire processes (and, potentially, add a great deal more waste to it) and you'd also want a round EVF and LCD, or, at minimum, a square EVF and LCD so you're minimizing the unused corners. Still, it'd be fun and challenging, learning to compose for a native round frame.
p.3 #12 · What is your wish list for the Sony A7RVI
aCuria wrote:
The rear baffle issue should be something that can be solved without too much technical difficulty.
For you personally, yes. For Sony, no. They can't sell a camera that is not compatible with their current lenses. Then they could as well just ditch the E mount and do something completely different (medium format with a new set of lenses).
p.3 #13 · What is your wish list for the Sony A7RVI
Makten wrote:
For you personally, yes. For Sony, no. They can't sell a camera that is not compatible with their current lenses. Then they could as well just ditch the E mount and do something completely different (medium format with a new set of lenses).
It's necessary to cover a 24x36 mm frame.
Sure they can sell a camera that is not compatible with ALL their current lenses. Not every lens can do 120fps for example.
p.3 #14 · What is your wish list for the Sony A7RVI
Is it too late to add to this list?
I've purchased the a7RII, a7RIII, and a7RIV. I skipped the a7RV as I just didnt feel there was enough new stuff on it. The previous generations showed a lot more improvements. I also purchased the a7SIII when it was released, for video, though I wish I had known the FXIII was going to come out, as I would have purchased that instead.
Anyways, I shoot portraits in studio and on location. When I'm on location, I'm constantly changing settings. Sometimes I will lower the camera to talk to the model and then start shooting again. What I wish Sony would add (which i admit would be a major redesign for a Sony camera frame), is adding a LED or OLED or e-ink settings screen on top of the camera, just so I could instantly see my ISO, shutter, aperture, etc at a glance. Heck, it would be nice to be able to see battery life available on the screen when deciding if it's time for me to change batteries.
An example would be like the screen on the Hasselblad.
p.3 #15 · What is your wish list for the Sony A7RVI
This forum misses the "downvote" feature because Sony really needs to hear our message: keep that LCD insanity and hold+turn nighmare away from their cameras. All other vendors use this approach, and people who prefer it have a ton of choices already. But those who despise LCDs and prefer physical controls for exposure, aperture and compensation have no choice: Sony is our only hope to enjoy a usable camera.
p.3 #16 · What is your wish list for the Sony A7RVI
wordfool wrote:
TBH I'm a bit puzzled when I see people calling for 80-100MP FF cameras when good medium-format options exist.
For one (important) thing, the range of lens options found on FF systems is not available for miniMF systems.
Regarding more MP, there’s not really any downside to offering higher photo site density since each sensor generation seems to do so without any loss in quality… and storage, etc. continues to decline in cost per unit of storage.
(Now, if the miniMF manufacturers — esp. Fujifilm — would fill out their lens offerings to more closely match what is available on FF they would take a lot more business away from FF manufacturers.)
p.3 #17 · What is your wish list for the Sony A7RVI
I really hope Sony can make a 40ish MP camera again. Sony already make the sensor for S1RII. just put the same sensor into a body and I would instantly buy it.
p.3 #18 · What is your wish list for the Sony A7RVI
rob_ww wrote:
Last week I accidentally set my A7CR to WB bracket every shot. It did so, silently, right through a whole SD card. There was no sound to indicate it was taking multiple shots. There might have been a new symbol added to the 42 already in the viewfinder, if so, I did not notice it. ...
PS I still do not know how I could have done it, or if there is anyone on the planet who needs to bracket WB shots. Would be interested to hear suggestions, if that does not subvert this thread.
YES!!!
My main request: some sort of locking function so that one's desired settings aren't trashable by banging against you when it's over your shoulder (or going in and out of the bag). I haven't put enough thought into it, but when I'm out, I don't need to change much of anything (ISO, viewfinder or playback display, drive mode, light metering mode), so it's a real irritation when it starts shooting in burst mode, or the playback display is wacky. Especially in the Tokyo summer heat.
Other than that, lighter body, even better viewfinder for folks with glasses, and automagic in-camara processing of multi-exposure things: pixel shifting and focus stacking. Oh, yes. Pixel-contrast focus assist should only be active when viewfidner magnification is on.
Also, Sony should do something about the Tokyo summer heat.
p.3 #19 · What is your wish list for the Sony A7RVI
I uses fuji gfx for a few years before leaving the system recently. There are some heavy limitations.
1. No action cameras and no long lenses. I enjoy wildlife photography.
2. No wide angles to match sony. No equivalent to the 12-24, for example.
3. Overall lack of lenses. Meanwhile, sony comes out with the 50-150 f2, which is magnificent.
4. Bulk. Fuji gfx lenses are often quite wide and long. So, takes up a lot of space.
For a long time I was dual systems, but that was cumbersome.
wordfool wrote:
I agree and remember years ago when it looked like the megapixel race was over only for it to start up again (probably thanks to Sony). The only argument for high-megapixel FF cameras is that you then get a highish-megapixel APS-C option (26MP in the case of the A7R5) with the main downsides being the laws of physics when it comes to noise, DR, etc.
TBH I'm a bit puzzled when I see people calling for 80-100MP FF cameras when good medium-format options exist. IMO 40-50MP is the sweet spot for FF -- plenty of pixels for cropping but not so many you start to push the limits of noise, processing power and storage. If Sony were to ever start the A8 series then I'd wish for what I had hoped the A93 would be -- a 30-ish MP high-speed, stacked-sensor general purpose camera... sorta like a faster, stacked A74. Not that I'm complaining about Sony's A93 global sensor breakthrough, but that's a bit of a niche product. ...Show more →
