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Archive 2025 · Sony and Canon losing market share in Japan, Nikon gaining

  
 
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And then a month later that gets superceded, ad infinitum, marginal gains and all that

jwpstl wrote:
Who cares. As soon as Sony or Canon release a new body they will top the charts. New almost always wins.





Jun 01, 2025 at 11:01 AM
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aCuria wrote:
You have to realize the standards here are extremely high.

Personally the fundamental problem with SooC jpegs is that the camera is processing for some generic monitor as the target.

This also means that the jpeg will likely not look good in print, because it’s not optimized for your printer!

When I make a print, I make a completely different edit for each printer+paper type I want to print on. They will look different from something optimized for the screen.

Soon we will have to optimize for HDR monitors with huge color volume (90%+ of bt2020). These monitors already exist (qd-oled, and
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Yes, no question that for top IQ you need to process the RAWs yourself.
I just think Sony bodies produce jpegs that are still better than what smartphones are capable of in most situations.
Or at least my relatives don't complain, when I share a quick album right after a family gathering .



Jun 03, 2025 at 09:41 AM
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j4nu wrote:
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Or at least my relatives don't complain, when I share a quick album right after a family gathering .


Of course they don't complain. You have a big camera and thus the images are good per definition. No?



Jun 03, 2025 at 09:48 AM
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Jonas B wrote:
Of course they don't complain. You have a big camera and thus the images are good per definition. No?


Ouch! Is that really it



Jun 03, 2025 at 09:58 AM
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j4nu wrote:
Ouch! Is that really it


I think it is; yesterday a friends friend had a look at a couple of my, now old, prints and so i learned I have a good camera.
(...and maybe it's time to buy a new printer rather than lenses and such.)

EDIT: Now I think I have learned that Nikon is better yet...



Jun 03, 2025 at 10:39 AM
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j4nu wrote:
Yes, no question that for top IQ you need to process the RAWs yourself.


I don't think it is necessary to process images yourslef. If you chose the keeper images and have someone better skilled in processing do that to your instructions, then that would result in top IQ.

EBH




Jun 03, 2025 at 10:56 AM
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EB-1 wrote:
I don't think it is necessary to process images yourslef. If you chose the keeper images and have someone better skilled in processing do that to your instructions, then that would result in top IQ.

EBH



A fair point, but I doubt photography enthusiasts do that...



Jun 03, 2025 at 12:17 PM
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Jonas B wrote:
EDIT: Now I think I have learned that Nikon is better yet...


They must be better - they make the biggest and heaviest cameras!



Jun 05, 2025 at 08:35 AM
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