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Yeah, 1Ds, the camera that buried Hasselblad AB. Was my front-line studio machine for 10 years, and I adapted all kinds of crazy lenses. Weighs a freaking ton but the handling was divine. Still own it, too.


It was a machine that I really wanted but could never justify that $8000 price tag. Closest I got was the 1D Mark II (which is a camera I dearly loved and used for over 8 years before switching to Nikon for the wides).



May 20, 2025 at 08:41 PM
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I think I might want to make it more of a 'snapshot' system now, by which I mean walk-around, typically stopped down photography, for which I don't need Lux lens speed and therefore can downsize the kit with smaller, slower lenses in place of those.


I found this perspective to be super interesting as it reflects where I seem to be headed on my journey with Leica. I don't shoot professionally at all anymore and don't want to. I still enjoy photography but my love of processing has really diminished especially with the proliferation of AI and overprocessed digital imaging. As such, I found myself using my extremely capable Sony and Canon cameras pretty rarely - pretty much only on trips or dedicated photo excursions. But I do take the M11 everywhere, much like I did with my M240 from 8 years ago. And even though the process of shooting seems to add more gravity to the act of photography, the subjects seem much more experimental and casual. Family photography has gotten a lot more fun (for me anyway - my daughter chafes a little at the time it takes to get the focus right) and so I'm doing it a lot more than I was with any of my non-iPhone cameras. And it's even better because I can basically pull the RAW files directly from the camera onto my phone, process them using Lightroom mobile, and quickly share them and move on to the next thing, rather than building an archive of stuff that is in the processing backlog for all of eternity.



May 20, 2025 at 08:51 PM
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With this being the Leica forum, not surprising to see so much Leica love, but I'll toss in my "counterpoint". I shoot Sony, Leica and Olympus (more or less in that order).

I got an M240 about 2 years ago to test the Leica waters. Rangefinders are cool and I like using it, but realistically I don't think it changed my photography. For reference, I was mainly using a Sony A73 and recently got an A1, so as far as features go they could hardly be more different. But at the end of the day, the Leica is still just a camera to me, nothing magic is happening that makes me more thoughtful or better.

Some days I feel like I have "it" and other days not as much, but it doesn't seem to be camera dependent. Using different stuff makes life more interesting though.



May 21, 2025 at 11:43 AM
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Further example of shooting Leica with another system at the same time—and strobes!



The Telyt 280 is an M lens but you need a Visoflex accessory like OTDYM (reflex housing) or UXOOR (bellows) to connect your M body. Before MILC, Visoflex was the gateway to adapting Leica M lenses to DSLR, although the lens needed to be Visoflex capable: a capability that many lenses retained for years after Visoflex discontinuance.



Little known fact: the Telyt 280 was the only Leica lens made from dwarf star alloy.



May 21, 2025 at 12:49 PM
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So for a bit I used a Leica SL and Leica M240 for my professional work but I eventually sold them both due to fact that if either of them broke on me I wouldn't be able to afford to buy a back up and at the time I was full time freelancing. So I got rid of my SL for a Fuji x-t4, and I eventually sold my m240 for a xpro2 which is now a X100V. That said for a bit of time I was using my fuji gear and leica m240 side by side, even got to shoot a wedding with that combo. I really loved it because I had the auto focus when needed and I could get some extra reach by putting my 50mm cron on my fuji and my 28/40mm on my m240 and have everything covered. I now have a full time gig that pays decent so after I pay off some debt I'll be buying another Leica M with the plan of that being my everyday camera and when I need them for either paid shoots, video projects, or weather sealing I have a x-t4 and x100v to take along with my future M.


May 21, 2025 at 04:28 PM
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I use my Sony gear (currently A7RV + GM lenses) for paid work, mostly. When I shoot for “me,” I grab my M6 as I love the process/experience of the rangefinder - it’s just fun. This fun has lead me hankering to take my M6 experience to an M11 experience.


May 25, 2025 at 08:50 AM
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It's been a long time since I started; I got an Agfa 6x9 folder at age 8 and graduated to a Yashica 44LM when I started High School. In grade 11 I inherited a Leica IIIg and Ig with 6 lenses, and I've had Leicas ever since, and usually carry one when out of the house.

As one of my careers was architectural photography, I used a variety of cameras: Sinar-p -c and -f mainly, CamboWide, Noblex, Roundshot, Widelux, Hasselblad (mostly SWC), Mamiya (645 and 6) and in the SLR world progressed from Konica giving that up reluctantly for Nikon after Konica abandoned the field and then Canon when Nikon stagnated in the 90's. So I entered digital territory with Canon, got into M43 and still have some Panasonic. Canon gave way to Sony as mirrorless seemed the future to me. Now I use Sony 5%, OM 45% and Leica 50%. I'm sure I forgot some stuff. I still have and sometimes use 4 Leica film bodies.

For macro and any wide ranging focal length stuff the OM's work wonderfully, but just for everyday the Leica M11 and especially the M10M are the most satisfying.

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May 25, 2025 at 07:19 PM
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For a decades M3, Nikon FM and Kowa Super 66. Then M2/M4/M6TTL, Mamiya 7/7ii, Bronica ETRsi & RF645 and Contax TTSiii, G2 and T2. Moved to DSLR via a series of Canon cameras, but abandoned Canon with the introduction of the Sony Nex7. Then A9, A7Riii, iv and v. Now, vacationing in Japan. My favorite camera M11M and on rainy, or particularly colorful days I use my X2D. My wife is using a camera for the first time. I purchased a Sony A7CR and took the Q3 43 off preorder. She is using the A7CR/40mm G lens. She used program mode for three days, but now Aperture Priority, Auto ISO and exposure compensation. Each system brings something different. The X2D was cross shopped with the SL3. For how I use it, the Hasselblad was the better choice. The A7CR has a great autofocus capability and perfect size for my 4’9” wife. The Sony’s failings are the menu and EVF.. both abysmal. For me, all cameras are tradeoffs, except for the M11 Monochrom…it is perfect if I ignore the placement of the USB c connector.


May 25, 2025 at 07:57 PM
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brick33308 wrote:
I'm curious and would like to know about people who currently shoot with Leica gear, having migrated from other gear such as Fuji, Nikon, Canon and Sony. Do you still use your non-Leica cams/lenses as well as using Leica cams/lenses, how often and for what purposes not fulfilled by your Leica gear?

//snip//

Would be interested to hear about others who either routinely shoot both Leica and other brands, or who have migrated to Leica.


After shooting Sony for many years, I came into the Leica fold with the M10M in early 2022 and then an M10R in late 2023.

Looking at the metadata in my LR catalogue I'm shooting 4 Leica images for every 1 Sony A7R5 image. Almost 100% of the Sony images are with either the Sony100-400 GM or the Sony 200-600 shooting everything from sports, airshows, and wildlife.

The last time I took a great deal of sub-100mm focal length images with the Sony was traveling in Sicily where I used the 55mm f/1.8 and the Zeiss Loxia 21mm. That trip provided "proof of concept" that a smaller & lighter Leica M system with two lenses was a viable travel photography solution for me.




May 26, 2025 at 06:29 PM
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Well aside from keeping M11 with 4 Leica/VM lenses, I just sold all my Fuji lenses with X-T5, and got a Nikon Zf instead with TechArt ZM-02 AF adapter so I can just use my M-mount lenses on both systems, and I will not get any Z-mount lens.


May 26, 2025 at 08:06 PM
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I started out shooting video with friends on miniDV before I really got into photography. My interest in stills grew through film—using TLRs, SLRs, and rangefinders with manual focus lenses. When it was time to commit to a system, I chose Canon, since I was doing a lot of hybrid photo/video work and most of my friends were shooting Canon as well.

What ultimately killed my interest in Canon was picking up an EOS-1v to get back into film. That experience instantly reminded me why I fell in love with photography in the first place. Around that time, I was also working for a photography-related company and got to use a Nikon D850, which became my favorite digital camera for a while.

A couple of years after Canon stopped developing EF lenses, I decided to sell off all my Canon gear (just before COVID hit), as I was changing careers and wasn’t shooting as much. But I couldn’t stay away from photography for long.

With a fresh start and now shooting purely for myself, I finally took the plunge—I ended up with a used Leica M-A and a 35mm FLE lens after reviewing my Lightroom data. I wanted to stay away from anything digital for a while and just enjoy the process. For high-risk environments, I picked up a Konica IIIA. Eventually, I brought digital back into my life with a used Sony CX405 camcorder. When the Leica M11-P was released, I found my ideal digital stills camera. Since I eventually had to document and capture things for others, I also picked up a refurbished Canon 80D to use as a “sketch” tool.

These days, I operate and think in Leica unless I come across a situation where I need to grab something else.



May 27, 2025 at 01:40 PM
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Arka wrote:
Whoa. Is that an original 1Ds? I remember drooling over those almost two decades ago! 11MP full frame in a weather-proof body seems utterly insane. How the world changes!

rico wrote:
Yeah, 1Ds, the camera that buried Hasselblad AB. Was my front-line studio machine for 10 years, and I adapted all kinds of crazy lenses. Weighs a freaking ton but the handling was divine. Still own it, too.


Arka wrote:
It was a machine that I really wanted but could never justify that $8000 price tag. Closest I got was the 1D Mark II (which is a camera I dearly loved and used for over 8 years before switching to Nikon for the wides).


I got the original 4MP APS-H 1D back at the end of 2001 and it had a very distinctive 'look' thanks to its color profiles (crushed shadows to hide shadow noise - just like the M9 and M240 10 years later!) and CCD sensor. I remember having a chance to use a 1Ds at a Canon event when it was released and the color response from its CMOS sensor was totally different. I actually liked it a lot better than the 1D, which I didn't like color-wise, until I started using Capture One for RAW conversions. But I also couldn't justify the cost; the 1D was already a bit of a stretch at CAD 7,200 with Canon Canada CPS pricing, back when that was still available.

I immediately added the 1DII when it was released to benefit from 8MP, but like the 1Ds, its CMOS sensor had a totally different look from the 1D and it was a bit of a pain to shoot both at events because of the extra work in post to get consistent color/tonality. The 1DII's CMOS files were definitely more malleable than the 'brittle' 1D's CCD files but the II's AA filter must have been way more aggressive because unsharpened SOOC images just looked soft compared to the 1D, which was complained about by some.

Anyway, my foray into Leica was a direct result of not liking Canon's wide angle lenses during the pre 2010-2012 era. One of the big issues I was having at events was AF focusing wide angle focal lengths on something higher contrast directly behind the intended point of focus. And this was very difficult, if not impossible, to see in the OVF. I thought about adding Zeiss ZE wides, but focus would still be hit or miss due to the nature of the focusing screen and focus assist feature. And the ZEs were generally huge and heavy metal lenses. I didn't want to add even more bulk and weight to my kit. Canon's 1DIII AF 'debacle' resulted in even less shot to shot focus consistency, which I compensated for with 'spray and pray' for everything I covered. Instead of a lateral system switch to Nikon (the only real DSLR option at the time), I opted for Leica because of the small, sharp lenses and the inherent accuracy of manually focusing wide angle lenses with a rangefinder. IMO it's the only focusing system that is fast and easy to use with high accuracy/repeatability when manually focusing wide angle lenses (mirrorless is now superior for wide angle AF accuracy, most of the time). The other appeal of the M system was that it was totally different from DSLRs and something new to play with that no one else in my area was using.

I was happy that I finally got consistently in focus wide angle photos with the M system, but it being the M9, there were a lot of quirks that were part of the deal, like image banding, lock ups, very small buffer and potential image loss. An annoying one was edge color shift requiring use of Corner Fix, or similar, to remove from most of the suboptimal non-digital wide angle designs available at the time.

I'll be honest - because mirrorless has pretty much addressed all of the focusing shortcomings with DSLRs, it's difficult for me to keep using my M240 along side mirrorless *while* shooting client events. Yes, there are certainly times when working intimate events with a more discreet camera like the M is enjoyable, but swapping between systems on the fly breaks the flow and worse, adds time in post to unify the divergent Leica and Canon color responses (IMO Canon's is better in mixed artificial lighting conditions).

So now the M is for me more about a carry solution that slots between phone camera and full mirrorless kit, for the times I want 'real camera' image quality in a smaller package and at a more leisurely, considered pace. Honestly, any camera system can do that kind of work, so for me it's more about the fun I have with the 'Leica experience' on such outings.



May 27, 2025 at 02:51 PM
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