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p.2 #1Buying a 7D in 2025?
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I missed more images with the flakey AF of the 7D than anything else. It was my extra reach camera when the 1Ds IIIs and big teles were not enough. The 5DsR changed the game as it had enough pixels to be cropped and yet had some of the larger camera performance characteristics.Canon really lost the plot by the time of the 80D. The sensor was good except it should not have had an AA filter. I bought the 80D and D7200 within about a month and tested and compared quite a bit. The Nikon was just so much better. I still feel that Canon was never so good with croppers, all the way through the shaky 90D and the R7.
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I used the original 7d for 2yrs with 70-300L (sons football)
Worked flawlessly, I then bought the 7dii…ugh!! AF and exposure were constantly off, so decided to bite the bullet and bought the 5diii & 100-400Lii …. WOW 😳
Never looked back, still have it and use it to this day. That particular 5diii has been glued to that lens forever. I have a 2nd 5diii with a 40stm for team shots.
Often considered the 5div, but read a fair few comments elsewhere saying they preferred the 5diii files ?? So I stayed put!! 😂
Ditto
I did try the 7d with the 100-400ii once in the early days but the short end equivalent to 160mm was way too long, missed so many pitch side shots.
I tell ya, I still love my 5diii…I really do. Puts a huge grin on my face when it comes out.
I own a lot of bodies and none come anywhere close to the wonderful ergonomics of a gripoed 5diii… absolutely love her 💕🥰
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Jan 20, 2025 at 03:34 PM
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p.2 #2Buying a 7D in 2025?
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On 18mp and 24mp Rebels, there really isn't much difference in high iso. Sure 24mp is a little better, but either way i'm using iso 6400 without too much concern and avoiding 12800 (full stop iso on Rebels.) So it kinda didn't necessarily matter if I used one or the other for high iso,Haven't used 7D, but 60D looked pretty clean at 6400 for aps. 7D should do fine vs latest 24mp sensors, I'd think, unless they've really improved high iso (which I doubt.)
Yes 24mp is supposed to have better DR, especially at <400 or so, on most of them, 5D4 and 1Dx2 better DR anyway though, not sure if aps makes much sense on high DR
Pretty minimal difference between the 18mp aps high iso vs 24mp aps. Like I mentioned, 24mp aps has more DR but aps isn't top DR
18mp aps is really pretty modern performance even today. 24mp doesn't beat it by much,
Jan 20, 2025 at 06:29 PM
p.2 #3Buying a 7D in 2025?
7D was a 2009 body and kind of the bottom of the barrel compared to similar croppers of late 2000s to 2010s.
https://photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#Canon%20EOS%207D,Canon%20EOS%207D%20Mark%20II,Canon%20EOS%2080D,Nikon%20D7200
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https://photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#Canon%20EOS%207D,Canon%20EOS%207D%20Mark%20II,Canon%20EOS%2080D,Nikon%20D7200
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Jan 20, 2025 at 06:35 PM
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p.2 #4Buying a 7D in 2025?
I've often thought I wouldn't pick one or the other based on raw iq. High iso pretty identical, 18mp vs 24mp aps resolution is too.
If the op needs DR aps isn't ideal anyway. can use the 5D4.
If the op needs DR aps isn't ideal anyway. can use the 5D4.
Jan 20, 2025 at 06:45 PM
p.2 #5Buying a 7D in 2025?
Hey all,
Thanks for all the input! Based on feedback here, my needs and budget, I'm probably not going to purchase a 7D, I or II. It was just a whim because I saw a cheap Excellent copy on KEH lol
Thanks for all the input! Based on feedback here, my needs and budget, I'm probably not going to purchase a 7D, I or II. It was just a whim because I saw a cheap Excellent copy on KEH lol
Jan 21, 2025 at 02:27 AM
p.2 #6Buying a 7D in 2025?
Ming-Tzu wrote:
Hey all,
Thanks for all the input! Based on feedback here, my needs and budget, I'm probably not going to purchase a 7D, I or II. It was just a whim because I saw a cheap Excellent copy on KEH lol
This thread has made me want to dig mine out 😂👍🏻
Jan 21, 2025 at 03:26 AM
p.2 #7Buying a 7D in 2025?
Going from 7d to 7dmk2 was a nice step up. I wouldn't touch a used 7d, bet the mk2 isnt much on the used market. Jp
Jan 21, 2025 at 04:54 AM
p.2 #8Buying a 7D in 2025?
Ming-Tzu wrote:
Hey all,
Thanks for all the input! Based on feedback here, my needs and budget, I'm probably not going to purchase a 7D, I or II. It was just a whim because I saw a cheap Excellent copy on KEH lol
Good decision! I looked at my 7D RAWs last night to write something informed here, and, yes, you have saved some $$, space and annoyance for other whims. Those I´m very familiar with.
Hey all,
Thanks for all the input! Based on feedback here, my needs and budget, I'm probably not going to purchase a 7D, I or II. It was just a whim because I saw a cheap Excellent copy on KEH lol
Good decision! I looked at my 7D RAWs last night to write something informed here, and, yes, you have saved some $$, space and annoyance for other whims. Those I´m very familiar with.
Jan 21, 2025 at 08:02 AM
p.2 #9Buying a 7D in 2025?
I find it sad how many now rubbish the older DSLR’s despite many loving them back in the day.
Kinda reminds me of the kid who ditches his longtime friend when a new cool kid moves in nearby.
Kinda reminds me of the kid who ditches his longtime friend when a new cool kid moves in nearby.
Jan 21, 2025 at 12:18 PM
p.2 #10Buying a 7D in 2025?
Pixelpuffin wrote:
I find it sad how many now rubbish the older DSLR’s despite many loving them back in the day.
Kinda reminds me of the kid who ditches his longtime friend when a new cool kid moves in nearby.
Technology moves on though and DSLRs haven't seen any advancement in a number of years. Improvements I care about like high ISO performance and subject tracking are the domain of mirrorless today. Sure, I loved my Commodore 64 back in the day, but I don't know what I'd do with one today.
I find it sad how many now rubbish the older DSLR’s despite many loving them back in the day.
Kinda reminds me of the kid who ditches his longtime friend when a new cool kid moves in nearby.
Technology moves on though and DSLRs haven't seen any advancement in a number of years. Improvements I care about like high ISO performance and subject tracking are the domain of mirrorless today. Sure, I loved my Commodore 64 back in the day, but I don't know what I'd do with one today.
Jan 21, 2025 at 12:25 PM
p.2 #11Buying a 7D in 2025?
Mike_5D wrote:
Sure, I loved my Commodore 64 back in the day, but I don't know what I'd do with one today.
Actually, you could probably sell your Commodore 64 for a sizable sum, which makes me wish I kept my Atari. So maybe, one day, the 7D will be as "valuable" as PnS cameras are nowadays lol
Sure, I loved my Commodore 64 back in the day, but I don't know what I'd do with one today.
Actually, you could probably sell your Commodore 64 for a sizable sum, which makes me wish I kept my Atari. So maybe, one day, the 7D will be as "valuable" as PnS cameras are nowadays lol
Jan 21, 2025 at 01:06 PM
p.2 #12Buying a 7D in 2025?
Ming-Tzu wrote:
Mike_5D wrote
Sure, I loved my Commodore 64 back in the day, but I don't know what I'd do with one today.You noticed too!
My G12 & G16 that I bought for literally pennies a few years back are going for stupidly high prices these days. I kept all my old digital compacts. Plus all my old DSLR’s too
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Jan 21, 2025 at 01:11 PM
p.2 #13Buying a 7D in 2025?
Ming-Tzu wrote:
Actually, you could probably sell your Commodore 64 for a sizable sum, which makes me wish I kept my Atari. So maybe, one day, the 7D will be as "valuable" as PnS cameras are nowadays lol
No, that thing is long gone unless it's sitting in a box in my parent's garage rafters. I honestly don't know, it's been so long.
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Sure, I loved my Commodore 64 back in the day, but I don't know what I'd do with one today.No, that thing is long gone unless it's sitting in a box in my parent's garage rafters. I honestly don't know, it's been so long.
Jan 21, 2025 at 01:12 PM
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p.2 #14Buying a 7D in 2025?
18mp is basically modern performance, if you think 18mp aps is antiquated you're probably not going to be happy on 24mp aps. Basically no difference on raw except DR , not generally a strength of aps.
Latest mirrorless often has less of the DR people get so excited over. See graph above, D7200 beats the A9III and Z6III even though it's aps!!! So much for a 2015 DSLR being obsolete.
Latest mirrorless often has less of the DR people get so excited over. See graph above, D7200 beats the A9III and Z6III even though it's aps!!! So much for a 2015 DSLR being obsolete.
Jan 21, 2025 at 01:13 PM
p.2 #15Buying a 7D in 2025?
Pixelpuffin wrote:
Actually, you could probably sell your Commodore 64 for a sizable sum, which makes me wish I kept my Atari. So maybe, one day, the 7D will be as "valuable" as PnS cameras are nowadays lolYou noticed too!
My G12 & G16 that I bought for literally pennies a few years back are going for stupidly high prices these days. I kept all my old digital compacts. Plus all my old DSLR’s too
😂
I sold an old Canon PowerShot G9 X in 2023 for like $250. Felt like I hit the lotto with that one lol
Ming-Tzu wrote
Mike_5D wrote
Sure, I loved my Commodore 64 back in the day, but I don't know what I'd do with one today.My G12 & G16 that I bought for literally pennies a few years back are going for stupidly high prices these days. I kept all my old digital compacts. Plus all my old DSLR’s too
😂
I sold an old Canon PowerShot G9 X in 2023 for like $250. Felt like I hit the lotto with that one lol
Jan 21, 2025 at 01:17 PM
p.2 #16Buying a 7D in 2025?
Ming-Tzu wrote:
Actually, you could probably sell your Commodore 64 for a sizable sum, which makes me wish I kept my Atari. So maybe, one day, the 7D will be as "valuable" as PnS cameras are nowadays lolYou noticed too!
My G12 & G16 that I bought for literally pennies a few years back are going for stupidly high prices these days. I kept all my old digital compacts. Plus all my old DSLR’s too
😂I sold an old Canon PowerShot G9 X in 2023 for like $250. Felt like I hit the lotto with that one lol
If you have a 1DXII and 5D4, why would you want a 7D? I guess another question would be how much would you pay for a 7D?
Pixelpuffin wrote
Ming-Tzu wrote
Mike_5D wrote
Sure, I loved my Commodore 64 back in the day, but I don't know what I'd do with one today.My G12 & G16 that I bought for literally pennies a few years back are going for stupidly high prices these days. I kept all my old digital compacts. Plus all my old DSLR’s too
😂
If you have a 1DXII and 5D4, why would you want a 7D? I guess another question would be how much would you pay for a 7D?
Jan 21, 2025 at 02:37 PM
p.2 #17Buying a 7D in 2025?
Pixelpuffin wrote:
I find it sad how many now rubbish the older DSLR’s despite many loving them back in the day.
Kinda reminds me of the kid who ditches his longtime friend when a new cool kid moves in nearby.
Not me! I was unhappy with the AF performance of the non-1D bodies (I owned XT, XTi, 30D, 40D) in the past so much that I simply bought a journo beater 1D2n in 2010 and stayed with it for any fast and/or thin-dof shooting for further 4 years, until I found out that SL1 (which I bought to upgrade mt XTi for walkarounds and also some video work) while not as fast, was basically as accurate with fast lenses as the 1D2n. And yes, I tried friend's 7D at that time, and no, it was not better than the much older 1D2n.
I find it sad how many now rubbish the older DSLR’s despite many loving them back in the day.
Kinda reminds me of the kid who ditches his longtime friend when a new cool kid moves in nearby.
Not me! I was unhappy with the AF performance of the non-1D bodies (I owned XT, XTi, 30D, 40D) in the past so much that I simply bought a journo beater 1D2n in 2010 and stayed with it for any fast and/or thin-dof shooting for further 4 years, until I found out that SL1 (which I bought to upgrade mt XTi for walkarounds and also some video work) while not as fast, was basically as accurate with fast lenses as the 1D2n. And yes, I tried friend's 7D at that time, and no, it was not better than the much older 1D2n.
Jan 21, 2025 at 02:58 PM
p.2 #18Buying a 7D in 2025?
I'm not sure I'd buy a 7D today unless it was a clean copy at a bargain price, but I do still have mine and use it occasionally. Still works great as long as you understand its limitations compared to more modern bodies, and it's been DURABLE (the Kai W. video is what convinced me to get one, too). I've taken some of my biggest sellers with my old 7D, and no one so far is the wiser about which camera I used.
Compared to newer bodies, of course it's lacking in AF and noise performance, but there's something to be said for using an older body like the 7D now and again as a learning/refreshing tool to improve your entire process - from image capture to post processing to final print - and that's kind of how I think of it today a lot of the time.
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Compared to newer bodies, of course it's lacking in AF and noise performance, but there's something to be said for using an older body like the 7D now and again as a learning/refreshing tool to improve your entire process - from image capture to post processing to final print - and that's kind of how I think of it today a lot of the time.
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Jan 21, 2025 at 04:37 PM
p.2 #19Buying a 7D in 2025?
Pixelpuffin wrote:
I find it sad how many now rubbish the older DSLR’s despite many loving them back in the day.
Kinda reminds me of the kid who ditches his longtime friend when a new cool kid moves in nearby.
MintMar wrote:
Not me! I was unhappy with the AF performance of the non-1D bodies (I owned XT, XTi, 30D, 40D) in the past so much that I simply bought a journo beater 1D2n in 2010 and stayed with it for any fast and/or thin-dof shooting for further 4 years, until I found out that SL1 (which I bought to upgrade mt XTi for walkarounds and also some video work) while not as fast, was basically as accurate with fast lenses as the 1D2n. And yes, I tried friend's 7D at that time, and no, it was not better than the much...Show more →
I suspect that some users did not have the high grade cameras soon after they were introduced and were not fully aware of the differences between the various camera grades. I hauled around a bunch of 1Ds series bodies as main cameras from 2003 to 2012 because that was the best in Canon at the time. Even after the 5D III in 2012 the 1Ds III was better for some things up to 2015. If all someone was an xxD then it probably seemed good enough. Most people that got a 7D also had some FF body at that time.
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I find it sad how many now rubbish the older DSLR’s despite many loving them back in the day.
Kinda reminds me of the kid who ditches his longtime friend when a new cool kid moves in nearby.
MintMar wrote:
Not me! I was unhappy with the AF performance of the non-1D bodies (I owned XT, XTi, 30D, 40D) in the past so much that I simply bought a journo beater 1D2n in 2010 and stayed with it for any fast and/or thin-dof shooting for further 4 years, until I found out that SL1 (which I bought to upgrade mt XTi for walkarounds and also some video work) while not as fast, was basically as accurate with fast lenses as the 1D2n. And yes, I tried friend's 7D at that time, and no, it was not better than the much...Show more →
I suspect that some users did not have the high grade cameras soon after they were introduced and were not fully aware of the differences between the various camera grades. I hauled around a bunch of 1Ds series bodies as main cameras from 2003 to 2012 because that was the best in Canon at the time. Even after the 5D III in 2012 the 1Ds III was better for some things up to 2015. If all someone was an xxD then it probably seemed good enough. Most people that got a 7D also had some FF body at that time.
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Jan 21, 2025 at 05:14 PM
p.2 #20Buying a 7D in 2025?
I was always happy with the image quality of my 550D and 7D am now on full frame and of course that is better though
I am going through and re converting some of my old Raw files with modern software (DXO 8) and it is impressive what it can do
I am going through and re converting some of my old Raw files with modern software (DXO 8) and it is impressive what it can do
Jan 21, 2025 at 05:28 PM