Steve Spencer wrote:
They of course have the 90 f/2 APO Ultron and the 90 f/2.8 APO Color Skopar for M mount and have not made these lenses for mirrorless mount. And they of course also have the 65 f/2 APO Lanthar Macro for E and Z mount and the 110 f/2.5 APO Lanthar Macro of E mount. I have had all of these lenses except the 90 f/2 Ultron which I will likely get this year. I would love to see them make it in Sony E mount as from Fred's review the outer performance suffers on Sony because of the thicker sensor cover glass. I am thinking of using it on Fuji where I think the outer performance will be fine due to the smaller sensor and it ought to work a lot like a 135 f/2.8 on FF, which would be a nice addition to my Fuji kit.
Given that they haven't made either of the 90 APO lenses for mirrorless, I sort of doubt they are going to make a 75 f/2 APO for mirrorless either, but one for Leica M to replace the now discontinued 75 f/1.9 does seem like a quite reasonable thing to do. Maybe if they do and it is successful they will prove me wrong and make it for mirrorless as well. Like you Juha, for the next few years anyway I will be shooting Voigtlander lenses on mirrorless both on Fuji and Sony.
I have really enjoyed my Voigtlander lenses on Fuji (I now have the 23 f/1.2, 27 f/2, 35 f/2 APO Macro, and 50 f/1.2). I do wish they would make something like a 12 or 14 f/2 or even f/2.8 for Fuji as I would like to have an ultrawide option for that mount....Show more →
I'm confident that when they make a new APO-Lanthar that fits right in with the existing 28/2, 35/2, 50/2, they would release it for mirrorless as well as M. They always sell more of the existing APO-Lanthars in E-mount in Japan than in M and there's no good reason to make them M-exclusive. They also have a tendency to release all their "flagship" lenses in multiple mounts.
In one of the recent Photo Exhibitions they had a talk-show where they talked about how 90/2 APO-Lanthar would have been too big to be widely accepted by rangefinder camera users, and I think they made 90/2.8 APO-Skopar and 90/2 APO-Ultron with a lot of consideration for size and weight with an expectation that M-mount users would put a very high priority on those aspects. They only use the APO-Lanthar naming when the lens meets certain very high level internal IQ criteria and APO-Skopars and APO-Ultrons would have some more compromises in that area.
Once they make another APO-Lanthar that they would advertise as "The Highest Performance xxx lens in Voigtländer history", it would almost certainly make it to mirrorless mounts again as well.
They did talk a whole lot about APO-Lanthars overall in that talkshow, which gave me the impression that there could be a strong focus on those in the near future after the 28mm as well.
I do find a lot of the Fuji X Voigtländer lenses to be excellent too and but as a camera I enjoy my A7CII more than my X-S10 and that aspect has made me shoot more with the E-mount Voigtländers recently. I found a great used copy of the E-mount 12/5.6 last month (at 50K yen) and I picked up that one as well. Now that I have 15 E-mount CV lenses (after 28/2 arrives tomorrow) and 6 X-mount, there's less motivation to adapt more VMs.
Steve Spencer wrote:
They of course have the 90 f/2 APO Ultron and the 90 f/2.8 APO Color Skopar for M mount and have not made these lenses for mirrorless mount. And they of course also have the 65 f/2 APO Lanthar Macro for E and Z mount and the 110 f/2.5 APO Lanthar Macro of E mount. I have had all of these lenses except the 90 f/2 Ultron which I will likely get this year. I would love to see them make it in Sony E mount as from Fred's review the outer performance suffers on Sony because of the thicker sensor cover glass. I am thinking of using it on Fuji where I think the outer performance will be fine due to the smaller sensor and it ought to work a lot like a 135 f/2.8 on FF, which would be a nice addition to my Fuji kit.
Given that they haven't made either of the 90 APO lenses for mirrorless, I sort of doubt they are going to make a 75 f/2 APO for mirrorless either, but one for Leica M to replace the now discontinued 75 f/1.9 does seem like a quite reasonable thing to do. Maybe if they do and it is successful they will prove me wrong and make it for mirrorless as well. Like you Juha, for the next few years anyway I will be shooting Voigtlander lenses on mirrorless both on Fuji and Sony.
I have really enjoyed my Voigtlander lenses on Fuji (I now have the 23 f/1.2, 27 f/2, 35 f/2 APO Macro, and 50 f/1.2). I do wish they would make something like a 12 or 14 f/2 or even f/2.8 for Fuji as I would like to have an ultrawide option for that mount....Show more →
Steve, why not the Fuji 90/2? Wouldn't AF at this focal length offer some 'quaity of life' benefits? Or do you prefer manual focusing? Does Fuji have a good manual focus aid implementation? I suppose the major advantage of the VM is it can be adpated to both Fuji and Sony. It also appears to be a true APO design. Not sure about the Fuji.
FWIW, I noticed Fuji has this lens currently discounted $300 which puts it inline with the VM's price and B&H has a few used copies, with the one in best condition at ~$600.
Dec 11, 2025 at 10:36 AM
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rscheffler wrote:
Steve, why not the Fuji 90/2? Wouldn't AF at this focal length offer some 'quaity of life' benefits? Or do you prefer manual focusing? Does Fuji have a good manual focus aid implementation? I suppose the major advantage of the VM is it can be adpated to both Fuji and Sony. It also appears to be a true APO design. Not sure about the Fuji.
FWIW, I noticed Fuji has this lens currently discounted $300 which puts it inline with the VM's price and B&H has a few used copies, with the one in best condition at ~$600.
I already have the Fuji 90 f/2 for shooting action and particularly with the X-H2S for shooting my son playing basketball it is a very good setup. What I want the CV 90 f/2 APO Ultron for is travel. It will be a lot smaller and about 150g lighter than the Fuji lens and for travel I don't need or really even want AF. Right now I often take the Fuji 70-300 f/5.6, which is a nice lens for its versatility and small size for what it covers, but it is still bigger than I want for travel unless I know I want that extra reach. The Fuji zoom obviously needs a lot of light too, and the Voigtlander would be way better in lower light when 90mm gets me the reach I would want.
I suspect Thypoch are stealing a good number of M mount sales from Voigtländer with their heavily promoted, and seeding to youtube influencers, of Simera and Simera-C lenses.
Should Voigtländer respond with cine friendly versions of their M lenses ? long focus throws, consistent design dimensions and 0.8 mod gear rings. New designs that correct focus breathing would be advantageous.
I’m still waiting for them to port over some of those x-mount lenses to Sony APSC. Specifically, I want the 27mm f/2 ultron and 18mm f/2.8 color-skopar for my a6700. I would like a larger selection of high quality pancake-ish lenses on Sony. These two would be an excellent minimalist MF kit.
TimCC wrote:
I’m still waiting for them to port over some of those x-mount lenses to Sony APSC. Specifically, I want the 27mm f/2 ultron and 18mm f/2.8 color-skopar for my a6700. I would like a larger selection of high quality pancake-ish lenses on Sony. These two would be an excellent minimalist MF kit.
I'd mash the preorder button for an e-mount APO-Ultron 35/2 macro.
Cosina has pretty much covered all the key focal lengths now. Sure, a 75/2 APO-Lanthar could happen, but what I would really love to see is a more compact, Leica-sized version of their 35/2 APO-Lanthar.
There's also an older lens I've always liked and still own, the 15/4.5 Super Wide-Heliar which could really benefit from an optical refresh. I'm not complaining, but it would be great if it performed even better.
FrozenInTime wrote:
I suspect Thypoch are stealing a good number of M mount sales from Voigtländer with their heavily promoted, and seeding to youtube influencers, of Simera and Simera-C lenses.
Should Voigtländer respond with cine friendly versions of their M lenses ? long focus throws, consistent design dimensions and 0.8 mod gear rings. New designs that correct focus breathing would be advantageous.
Cine is definitely another area they could address. But they seem to be quite set in their ways with what they have traditionally offered.
I agree, The Simera lenses are very appealing. They're maybe not quite as modernly amazing (sharp) wide open, but not that far off. And in many cases, they have a more appealing balance of wide open qualities that translate well in images rather than spec sheets.
Now if they'd only fix the ergonomics of their M mount still lens designs...
Voigtlander is a major reason to own a Leica. I am not actually dreaming about a new Voigtlander lens, instead I simply wish for the E-mount and Z-mount versions of all VM Voigtlanders I already have.
I was surprised to see the 35mm f/2 Ultron get discontinued, because it is such a popular and well-received lens. My best guess is that Cosina will update it with more of a 50/2.2-style barrel and dechromed nose. Personally, the thing I'd like to see most on Voigtlander M lenses is a soft stop at 0.7m for rangefinder decoupling, but I'm not sure we'll get it.
I'm also not sure if we'll get another 28mm Ultron or if the APO-Lanthar is meant as its replacement. As Fred mentioned in another post, the APO lens is significantly larger and lacks some ergonomic features of the Ultron.
Pianisimo wrote:
I was surprised to see the 35mm f/2 Ultron get discontinued, because it is such a popular and well-received lens. My best guess is that Cosina will update it with more of a 50/2.2-style barrel and dechromed nose. Personally, the thing I'd like to see most on Voigtlander M lenses is a soft stop at 0.7m for rangefinder decoupling, but I'm not sure we'll get it.
I'm also not sure if we'll get another 28mm Ultron or if the APO-Lanthar is meant as its replacement. As Fred mentioned in another post, the APO lens is significantly larger and lacks some ergonomic features of the Ultron....Show more →
The lack of tactical feel when the rangefinder disengages beyond 0.7m has been a major complaint. I thought Cosina had finally solved this when they released the CV 50 f/3.5 APO-Lanthar, which keeps a clear tactile feel (indentation) after the rangefinder can no longer focus. I really appreciate that. However, it was surprising to see that their later lenses do not include this feature. I expected the 50 f/3.5 APO to mark the beginning of a consistent approach in all future lenses, but that unfortunately did not happen.
Pianisimo wrote:
I was surprised to see the 35mm f/2 Ultron get discontinued, because it is such a popular and well-received lens. My best guess is that Cosina will update it with more of a 50/2.2-style barrel and dechromed nose. Personally, the thing I'd like to see most on Voigtlander M lenses is a soft stop at 0.7m for rangefinder decoupling, but I'm not sure we'll get it.
I'm also not sure if we'll get another 28mm Ultron or if the APO-Lanthar is meant as its replacement. As Fred mentioned in another post, the APO lens is significantly larger and lacks some ergonomic features of the Ultron....Show more →
I hope we get another 28mm Ultron, I think the 28 APO is a bit too large to be its replacement from an EDC perspective.
GregPantelides wrote:
I hope we get another 28mm Ultron, I think the 28 APO is a bit too large to be its replacement from an EDC perspective.
I was really surprised the 28/2 Ultron was discontinued. I agree that just for its size alone, they should have kept it...I'm sure it was a solid seller for Cosina. Perhaps a replacement is in the works.
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Fred Miranda wrote:
I was really surprised the 28/2 Ultron was discontinued. I agree that just for its size alone, they should have kept it...I'm sure it was a solid seller for Cosina. Perhaps a replacement is in the works.
It will be interesting to see what Cosina does, but it looks like they might be moving away from f/2 Ultrons. At 28mm they have the f/1.5 Nokton, the f/2 APO Lanthar, and the f/2.8 Color Skopar. At 35mm, they have the f/1.5 Nokton and f/2 APO Lanthar but the Color Skopar is f/3.5 instead of f/2.8. They also add the faster f/1.2 Nokton, and the classic f/1.4. At 50mm they have the f/1.5 Nokton and f/2 APO Lanthar like at 28mm, but the Color Skopar is f/2.2. They also add the two super fast Noktons at f/1 and f/1.2, the super small f/3.5 APO Lanthar, and the classic f/1.5.
What is notable is that at 28, 35, and 50 they no longer make any f/2 Ultrons. In fact, they no longer make any plain Ultrons for M mount. They do make the 90 f/2 APO Ultron, but that is the only Ultron they make. They make no Ultrons for Sony E mount, and only the 35 f/2 APO Ultron for Fuji X mount and Z mount and the 27 f/2 Ultron for Fuji X mount. Those are the only Ultrons they make these days. It seems Cosina is moving away from making Ultrons. It is always hard to decipher what Cosina is doing, but it seems they are moving away from making lenses like the 28 f/2 Ultron. I could easily be wrong, however, and I hope I am.
I would be thrilled to see anything new in the 21/24/25mm range. And I will be sad to see no Ultron replacements. Maybe they're just going to replace all the chrome rings...? But I'm not optimistic.
Can we expect them to release a Voigtlander 50mm f/2 APO-Lanthar with the same cosmetic styling as the new 28mm f/2 APO-Lanthar, including the black rim?
I'd like to see an update to the 35 and 50 Apo-Lanthars. Matching style to the 28/90 lenses, included hoods that can be reversed, black rim. Ideally they'd also be smaller, but I assume that would mean a new optical formula which is probably unnecessary given the current performance.
It's unlikely but Apo lenses for 21 and 75 would be nice to see as well. I figure 21 is probably never going to happen, especially not an f/2 option, but Voigt does seem to like making 75mm lenses.
