Just a bit more info.
There are 4 options to assign a lens to the M10 camera:
Off
Automatic
Manuel M Lens
Manual R Lens
Normally I leave my M10 Camera’s on automatic.
This will allow automatic picture increase when you turn the focusring.
For this lens, the automatic lens recognition does not work and you have to set the lens recognition to manual mode, but then the automatic picture increase does not function anymore.
This is an official statement that I received from Voigtländer Germany a few hours ago.
They could also not tell me why it was working properly on my M10-r and not on my M10M.
Seems to be a bit weird….
Maybe it has to do with tolerantes in the manufacturing process?
So I will return the lens
satijntje wrote:
Just a bit more info.
There are 4 options to assign a lens to the M10 camera:
Off
Automatic
Manuel M Lens
Manual R Lens
Normally I leave my M10 Camera’s on automatic.
This will allow automatic picture increase when you turn the focusring.
For this lens, the automatic lens recognition does not work and you have to set the lens recognition to manual mode, but then the automatic picture increase does not function anymore.
This is an official statement that I received from Voigtländer Germany a few hours ago.
They could also not tell me why it was working properly on my M10-r and not on my M10M.
Seems to be a bit weird….
Maybe it has to do with tolerantes in the manufacturing process?
So I will return the lens ...Show more →
The Voigtlander 50mm f/3.5 APO-Lanthar is not a 6-bit coded lens unless you hand-coded yourself. The lens will not be automatically recognized and you have to enter the lens name/profile manually.
satijntje wrote:
Just a bit more info.
There are 4 options to assign a lens to the M10 camera:
Off
Automatic
Manuel M Lens
Manual R Lens
Normally I leave my M10 Camera’s on automatic.
This will allow automatic picture increase when you turn the focusring.
For this lens, the automatic lens recognition does not work and you have to set the lens recognition to manual mode, but then the automatic picture increase does not function anymore.
This is an official statement that I received from Voigtländer Germany a few hours ago.
They could also not tell me why it was working properly on my M10-r and not on my M10M.
Seems to be a bit weird….
Maybe it has to do with tolerantes in the manufacturing process?
So I will return the lens ...Show more →
All the Leica M 'Lens Detection' does in terms of altering the image is correct vignetting. It is a handy feature if you want your images (both JPEG and DNG) to have this correction straight out of the camera, but vignetting is also one of the easiest adjustments to make in post-processing.
Another benefit of lens detection is for organization...It adds the lens name to the EXIF data, either automatically or manually. Since Cosina lenses and other non-Leica lenses do not include a 6-bit code on the mount, you can either add the code yourself or select "Manual" lens detection and choose a lens profile that closely matches the vignetting correction you want.
So, this issue is not related to manufacturing tolerances or a lens defect. If automatic lens detection is important to you and you would rather not manually code your third-party lenses, the alternative is to stick with Leica M lenses.
satijntje wrote:
Just received my Typ I APO-Lanthar lens in black matte paint and I want to use it on my Leica M10 Monochrom.
But,……..
Unfortunaltely the M10M displays an error Message “NO LENS MOUNTED”!.
I tried several times to detach and to attach the lens again, cleaning the contacts but without succes.
When turning the lens into the mount of the M10 Monochrom, I hear the click so it is mechanically fitting correctly.
When I attach the VM on my M10r it works without problems, but my intention is to use it on the M10M!
Other lenses do not give me a problem on my M10M!
Does anybody here have an idea what I can try before returning the lens again?...Show more →
That is a different issue. Since the CV 50/3.5 Type I in black matte has a black mount, the camera’s Lens Detection should always be turned off. Otherwise, it can cause problems with the 6-bit reader, leading to messages like "No Lens Mounted" when using Live View, as you mentioned. This applies only to lenses with a black mount and is specified by Cosina.
Apparently, only the Leica M11 with firmware version 1.30 or higher allows lens detection to be set to 'Auto'.
"*1) The black lens with black-finished mount is not recognized when used with a camera equipped with a system that reads the attached lens with a 6-bit code. Please set the lens detection to OFF (If the LEICA M11 firmware is lower than V1.30, please set to AUTO)."
Thanks a lot, so this is the reason why the camera did not detect the lens at all!
…. It says, it CAN CAUSE PROBLEMS……
So, I will get the silver version and the problem should be solved :-)
But it is still strange why the M10 Mono does not recognise that a lens is detached and the M10-r has no problem.
But, is there not a inconsistente in the above text?
“If the Leica M11 firmware is lower than V1.30 please set to Auto”
and,
Your Text “Apparently, only the Leica M11 with firmware version 1.30 or higher allows lens detection to be set to auto”
Just to clarify:
The above is NOT related to the 6bit detection but only about lens detection, so if a lens is detected or NOT.
satijntje wrote:
Thanks a lot, so this is the reason why the camera die not detect the lens at all!
…. It says, it CAN CAUSE PROBLEMS……
So, I will get the silver version and the problem should be solved :-)
But still strange why the M10 Mono does not recognise that a lens is detached and the M10-r has no Problem.
The 6bit recognition is not the issue here, that is something completely different.
But, is there not a inconsistente in the above text,
“If the Leica M11 firmware is lower than V1.30 please set to Auto”
and,
Your Text “Apparently, only the Leica M11 with firmware version 1.30 or higher allows lens detection to be set to auto”
Just to clarify:
The above is NOT related to the 6bit detection but only about lens detection, so if a lens is detected or NOT.
Thanks a lot for the clarification dear Fred! ...Show more →
Yes, with the silver mount, you won’t ever see the “No Lens Mounted"” message when switching to live view.
To be honest, I'm not entirely sure what Cosina means with the M11 firmware 1.3 and higher. It says the lens detection can be set to Auto, but it won’t provide any correction unless the lens is manually coded (which many of us do). If the lens isn't coded, I'd always set it to manual and choose a good match from the in-camera options, or turn it off and handle vignetting correction and lens name tagging in post.
Problem solved.
I re-ordered the matt black version for my M10-m, aas it is too beautiful to not own it.
I made a white stroke on the lens Mount with a pencil.
The camera (M10M) does now see that there is a lens attached.
Just need to add the 6bit coding an all is perfect.
satijntje wrote:
Problem solved.
I made a white stroke on the lens Mount with a pencil.
Wouldn't that smear or get erased when mounting and unmounting the lens? Are you saying you traced the indentation area of the mount with a pencil, and that fixed the error issue?
Fred Miranda wrote:
Wouldn't that smear or get erased when mounting and unmounting the lens? Are you saying you traced the indentation area of the mount with a pencil, and that fixed the error issue?
Could you share a picture showing what you did?
Would love to add a pic here but I cannot….
How can I add one?
It's a lovely little lens. I opted for the one with the non-rotating aperture selector so I can focus wide open when using it on a mirrorless body and then stop down without fear of shifting focus. It's great for packing a full range of focal lengths in a very small bag.
New Orleans French Quarter at Dawn
M9 L1000046 by Brusby, on Flickr
A sweet little lens, light and with very high optical quality. Cosina Voigtlander are moving away from aspherical elements to a total reliance on their very fine APD glass, even for APO class lenses. This not only makes perfect sense inside a modern vintage lens, it's a good move all round.
It may seem to be a bad outcome that only enthusiasts will buy this kind of lens due to the ergonomics, but Cosina is not a company to compromise here. Like Thypoch with their DOF balls, they are teaching photographers to embrace the notion that there is more to life than mere utlity. I applaud them both, and the others of their ilk.
Still thinking about swapping my 50 f/2 apo for this one. I love that lens, but more often than not it stays home when I travel in favor of the 50 lux. This f/3.5 lens may be small enough that I could justify taking both. Traveling with family often means a mix of low light and portrait shots, where I love the lux, and landscapes where an apo would be handy (though the lux does fine).
The lower megapixel count of the Leica M9 can make moire more apparent compared to a higher-resolution sensor. Moire occurs when fine details exceed the sensor's resolving capability, leading to color fringing and interference patterns. I’ve noticed plenty of moire on my 24 MP Leica M-D, while it’s far less common on the M11.
Asking again, as I'm still trying to find a manual focus lens for food/product photopgraphy...
As far as close focus goes, which would most likely be better - the 50 APO f/3.5 natively, or the 50 APO f/2 on a helicoid?
Repurchased this lens in the dark olive limited edition for my M11-P Safari. Thanks to whomever returned this to Camera Quest as the discount was substantial and the lens is a perfect sample (unlike my first copy in matte black that would only focus accurately at short and long distances but not middle distances). The brass version really feels much better built.
