p.3 #1 · What is the must-have FE lens in 24-70mm?
Choderboy wrote:
Reason to not want to increase ISO:
2 stops of dynamic range!
Sony A7RV
ISO PDR
100 11.7
320 10.6
3200 7.2
12800 5.2
So with a 2.8 lens indoors at ISO 12800, a 1.4 lens would allow ISO 3200 and 2 stops more dynamic range.
There has been a lot of bickering over the years regarding small differences in DR, but 2 stops is not small.
And as Rob mentioned, those uncontrollable backgrounds......
I find the dynamic range indoors is much less of an issue than the dynamic range outdoors. The other issue with shooting 1.4 to gain that dynamic range is you lose DOF, basically removing the ‘family” out of the image and just getting an isolated face.
p.3 #2 · What is the must-have FE lens in 24-70mm?
I love this.
Will reply to this and all the other wonderfully helpful posts after I'm out of this meeting, but just wanted to note that "Dad turning up with his Sony battleship" strikes precisely the *right* note!
You're hitting on what I was thinking as well, that most of these shots will be at the lower end of the FL range but if I need it, I can cover the FL gap.
rob_ww wrote:
As a dad and granddad with decades of taking the dad photos you describe, I would recommend an aperture of f2.0 or wider for indoor shots of moving children. Not only for speed in low-light, but also because you have almost no control over the background to that 'great' shot you just captured. The shallow depth of field really takes the background out of play -- and these days you can do a lot in post-process to take that effect further.
For indoor distances, 35 to 50 is the focal length range, so that means a 35GM or one of the 50GMs. You wont be sorry. It's rare that a 24 or 28 group shot works well for everyone in the group, and longer reach is not needed unless your house is really, really large.
Another advantage of using a prime is that you are less imposing. Everyone is having fun. No-one wants to think about 'formal' photos. Dad turning up with his Sony battleship just strikes the wrong note.
I get the need for longer reach at a different venue, e.g. a park, concert or sports ground. 70-200 is great for that, although a 135 prime will give you excellent reach and becomes 200 with APS-C crop.
PS my 'dad photos' are now prized by the whole family. So I am glad (and they are too) that I owned and used great equipment 20,30 years ago. Curiously, the pics become more precious with time. Show them the week after the gathering and no-one says much. Show them 5 years later, people pause over each and every one and declare it amazing!...Show more →
p.3 #3 · What is the must-have FE lens in 24-70mm?
tsdevine wrote:
Yeah, the lens only started shipping on June 20th. You're not going to be seeing many used copies for sale. It's still in the return window for many places where you can purchase it.
p.3 #4 · What is the must-have FE lens in 24-70mm?
if you are considering the 28-45, then you might also want to consider the Sigma 28–70 f2.8 lens, which is very light and sharp and great for dad for type photos. The 28-45 is really considered to be a video lens by Sigma and that’s why they brought it out to replicate the 18-35 APS-C lens that they did so well with many many years ago. 28-45 doesn’t give you much range at all to follow your kids around. The 28–70 is also cheaper than the other lenses you’re considering if that’s an issue for you.
"In addition to its unprecedented brightness, the SIGMA 28-45mm F1.8 DG DN | Art delivers sharpness and clarity comparable to that of a prime lens throughout its entire zoom range. Also equipped with fast and precise AF and superior operability, this innovative optic turns a new page in the history of zoom lenses and their creative possibilities. It is a lens that will inspire full-frame film-makers, while bringing unparalleled versatility to stills photographers."
jdcoletv wrote:
if you are considering the 28-45, then you might also want to consider the Sigma 28–70 f2.8 lens, which is very light and sharp and great for dad for type photos. The 28-45 is really considered to be a video lens by Sigma and that’s why they brought it out to replicate the 18-35 APS-C lens that they did so well with many many years ago. 28-45 doesn’t give you much range at all to follow your kids around. The 28–70 is also cheaper than the other lenses you’re considering if that’s an issue for you.
p.3 #7 · What is the must-have FE lens in 24-70mm?
@rob_ww hit the nail on the head. Indoor kid action does require a lot of light gathering capabilities. Personally from granddad experience ƒ2.8 doesn't cut it. I found that a 35MM 1.4 usually set to 1.8 or 2.0 was the best lens for the job, especially on a high res FF body that provides a serious amount of cropping potential. Having 3 grandkids it has proven to be up to the task many times over. Granted I don't use it much for anything else though.
