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I'm very stuck between this lens, the 24-70 and Sony 16-25. I could easily be happy with any of them haha


Jun 29, 2024 at 09:45 PM
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The 24-70 is a tried and true zoom range and the 16-25 looks really good, albeit requiring some digital correction for distortion on the wide end. This is somewhat of a beast, a short FL range, but the fastest zoom ever made. (But not super fast compared to whats available from primes.) While the 24-70 is slower, it has a wider range. Not sure I can give you any advice on that, ultimately it would be whatever would seem to be the choice that works best for you.

mjeffv2 wrote:
I'm very stuck between this lens, the 24-70 and Sony 16-25. I could easily be happy with any of them haha





Jun 29, 2024 at 09:56 PM
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I'm seeing a bit of a yellowish color cast, or is that just me? Overall the lens seems to perform very well though!


Jun 30, 2024 at 03:44 AM
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Sigma lenses do tend to trend to the warm side. I didn't really put any effort into color on these shots.....they were just for posting here. It is definitely something to consider, but I haven't found it to be too big a problem.

It also could be a little of the color profile I use, which tends to be a little warm as well. In any case, I'll try to put a little more effort on color when I post future test shots.

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I'm seeing a bit of a yellowish color cast, or is that just me? Overall the lens seems to perform very well though!





Jun 30, 2024 at 06:06 AM
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tsdevine wrote:
It also could be a little of the color profile I use, which tends to be a little warm as well. In any case, I'll try to put a little more effort on color when I post future test shots.


Oh it's no problem at all. If it's a feature of the glass then it just is what it is. Merely an observation.



Jun 30, 2024 at 06:23 AM
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Definitely a good observation. Here's the embedded SooC preview, Batis 40 on the left and the Sigma on the right.







Alan Parker wrote:
Oh it's no problem at all. If it's a feature of the glass then it just is what it is. Merely an observation.





Jun 30, 2024 at 06:34 AM
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These are processed a little more, run through Topaz Sharpen which which kind of has a mind of it's own on how much to sharpen. The 28-45 sharpening strength was less than the other two.

This will give you an idea on the FOV differences between these 3 lenses. All of these were shot at f/8.

Sony a7R V + Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN Art @ 24mm





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Sony a7R V + Zeiss Loxia 25mm f/2.4





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Sony a7R V + Sigma 28-45mm f/1.8 DG DN Art @ 28mm





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Jun 30, 2024 at 07:32 AM
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I will note that the drabness is mostly due to summer weather in Pennsylvania. The air was thick with humidity and there was a soupy haze as a result. Add in clouds and you have the recipe for the drabbies.

Also, one thing I love about the Loxia 25, is that it always gives you a bit extra foreground depth of field when focusing on the same point, compared to other lenses. It's one of my favorite lenses.



Jun 30, 2024 at 07:34 AM
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tsdevine wrote:
Yeah, it doesn't bother me enough to get better at it or stop posting them. So I guess it doesn't bother me too much.

I doubt there will be many who are interested in the zoom.

Thanks Steve


I guess I shouldn't be surprised that it's you that is sharing tests of this one. We seem to have similar tastes that, for example, appreciate the 28mm f/1.4 despite its size/weight! I have a copy this lens in the mail, too. I've had the Sigma 24-35mm f/2 for years now and still love it.

So when everyone said:

"950g is too heavy"
"150mm is too long,"

I said: "Hey! That's lighter than the 24-35mm+MC-11 and the same length! I'm in!"

These samples tell me that I made a good choice.



Jun 30, 2024 at 07:51 AM
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Oddly enough I've gotten less sensitive about size and weight as I've gotten older. Differences between lens size and weight have become less significant as my size and weight have also increased.

I imagine as I get even older, I might care more about size and weight.

Plus I have many options in terms of lenses, so I can go smaller and lighter if I need to.

I also have the 24-35 that I got new for a silly price, as well as the 28/1.4 and 40/1.4....also at silly prices.

MAubrey wrote:
I guess I shouldn't be surprised that it's you that is sharing tests of this one. We seem to have similar tastes that, for example, appreciate the 28mm f/1.4 despite its size/weight! I have a copy this lens in the mail, too. I've had the Sigma 24-35mm f/2 for years now and still love it.

So when everyone said:

"950g is too heavy"
"150mm is too long,"

I said: "Hey! That's lighter than the 24-35mm+MC-11 and the same length! I'm in!"

These samples tell me that I made a good choice.





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tsdevine wrote:
Oddly enough I've gotten less sensitive about size and weight as I've gotten older. Differences between lens size and weight have become less significant as my size and weight have also increased.

I imagine as I get even older, I might care more about size and weight.

Plus I have many options in terms of lenses, so I can go smaller and lighter if I need to.

I also have the 24-35 that I got new for a silly price, as well as the 28/1.4 and 40/1.4....also at silly prices.



I still "need" the 40mm!



Jun 30, 2024 at 08:25 AM
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Great comparison, much thanks! I know that it takes significant effort (and time) to do properly.

As a side question, which I'm still trying to figure out myself, could you tell me what's your intended use case for the Sigma?
Lately, I've been trying to downsize my lens collection, so that I keep only those that I actually use, and I still can't make up my mind on this one ...



Jun 30, 2024 at 09:13 AM
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j4nu wrote:
Great comparison, much thanks! I know that it takes significant effort (and time) to do properly.

As a side question, which I'm still trying to figure out myself, could you tell me what's your intended use case for the Sigma?
Lately, I've been trying to downsize my lens collection, so that I keep only those that I actually use, and I still can't make up my mind on this one ...


Yeah I'm debating between this and the 24-70 right now I think. They're both such good lenses. I just can't decide between better focal range or better aperture.



Jun 30, 2024 at 09:38 AM
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I have a lot of lenses.......so it's dangerous asking me questions about having a lens or not.

Honestly, other than longer telephoto....I almost always grab my primes, and I tend to take a lot of them. There are times when the flexibility of a zoom would be advantageous. Maybe a place I'm not familiar with, or where time pressures make it inconvenient to change lenses....or maybe the weather is less than ideal. Some of my favorite small lenses aren't weather sealed.

I have been shooting my 20-70/4 G a bit...but I have other zooms in the 20'ish to 105'ish range that just don't get used much. I always grab my primes. Now the 100-400 and 200-600 serve purposes for me that make them advantageous. I don't shoot enough at those FLs to invest in primes, and often the flexibility of a zoom and longer FLs is an advantage that's hard to ignore.

Similar with the 14-24, I find UWA it's often nice to have the flexibility of a zoom. Plus the 14-24 is close, or better, in performance to all my UWA primes, that in effect, when I want the utmost quality...I have no qualms about using it. I think I have a near perfect copy.

I often shoot in the <50mm range. So in my head, taking the 14-24 and 28-45 (and maybe throw in the 105 macro) gives me super flexibility. Granted f/1.8 isn't the fastest, but it's closer to f/1.4 than f/2.8. They are not super small or light, actually the 28-45 does make the 14-24 seem smallish though. And the 105/2.8 macro is probably the sharpest, or close to the sharpest, lens I own.

But I like trying lenses, and I usually find some redeeming quality in shooting one lens vs shooting another. I think since I've picked up the 100-400 and 200-600, my idea of what a big/heavy lens is has changed. I wish the 28-45 was a tad shorter, but the weight doesn't bother me all too much.

So to boil it down, I guess it serves the purpose of when I want the flexibility of a zoom (granted with limited range, but a range I often shoot) and the performance of my best primes.

Everyone has their own style, preferences, etc. So I can understand people who have no interest in this lens (or the 14-24 for that matter). I do value small and light though as well. I have the Sigma i17, Loxia 21, Loxia 25, CV 35 APO, CV 50 APO, Loxia 85 (not super light)....granted they aren't "Leica small/light", but relatively small and light and are generally great performers.

So don't let this tempt you if you're trying to go in the opposite direction.

j4nu wrote:
Great comparison, much thanks! I know that it takes significant effort (and time) to do properly.

As a side question, which I'm still trying to figure out myself, could you tell me what's your intended use case for the Sigma?
Lately, I've been trying to downsize my lens collection, so that I keep only those that I actually use, and I still can't make up my mind on this one ...





Jun 30, 2024 at 09:47 AM
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tsdevine wrote:
I have a lot of lenses.......so it's dangerous asking me questions about having a lens or not.

Honestly, other than longer telephoto....I almost always grab my primes, and I tend to take a lot of them. There are times when the flexibility of a zoom would be advantageous. Maybe a place I'm not familiar with, or where time pressures make it inconvenient to change lenses....or maybe the weather is less than ideal. Some of my favorite small lenses aren't weather sealed.

I have been shooting my 20-70/4 G a bit...but I have other zooms in the 20'ish to 105'ish range that
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Thanks, well said!
In my case I guess it boils down to "Will I ever take the zoom out if I can take primes (24,35,50) instead?"
I completely agree it's nice to have both options though .
Especially, since this Sigma is a tangible step up in regards to IQ compared to standard 24-70/2.8 zooms from what I've seen.
I managed to get my hands on one (I hoped it would feel a bit less chunky than 35-150/2-2.8, but it feels mostly the same to me) and took some rudimentary test shots, including a quick and dirty comparison of 45/1.8 vs 24/1.4 cropped to ~45mm. I'll try to upload them and post them here if you don't mind...




Jun 30, 2024 at 10:23 AM
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Sure, I don't see this thread having a wide audience, I don't mind you posting them here.

j4nu wrote:
Thanks, well said!
In my case I guess it boils down to "Will I ever take the zoom out if I can take primes (24,35,50) instead?"
I completely agree it's nice to have both options though .
Especially, since this Sigma is a tangible step up in regards to IQ compared to standard 24-70/2.8 zooms from what I've seen.
I managed to get my hands on one (I hoped it would feel a bit less chunky than 35-150/2-2.8, but it feels mostly the same to me) and took some rudimentary test shots, including a quick and dirty comparison of 45/1.8 vs 24/1.4 cropped
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Jun 30, 2024 at 11:15 AM
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mjeffv2 wrote:
I'm very stuck between this lens, the 24-70 and Sony 16-25. I could easily be happy with any of them haha


What lens to get depends on what other lenses you intend to get, and what subjects you are shooting



Jul 02, 2024 at 12:58 AM
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My copy arrive yesterday evening. I was able to get a quick centering test done using Fred's method before dinner last night. I hope to get some experience with it over the weekend.

I initially shot only 28mm and 45mm, hence the chimney between the two sets of bird images and the chimney in the middle for 35mm. The bird flew away. I probably should have gone for the chimney from the start.

28mm f/1.8






35mm f/1.8






45mm f/1.8






So first, corner resolution is really good at all three focal lengths. Second, resolution wide open is basically perfect and the consistency across focal lengths is very impressive to me. These are 200% crops on an A1. Given how sharp this is, I wouldn't hesitate to put 45mm in APS-C mode and get the equivalent of 67.7mm f/2.7.



Jul 04, 2024 at 06:32 AM
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I did Fred's centering test as well with my copy, not quite as formal as yours. Mine appears to be well centered at all FLs as well. Always the moment of dread when I get a new lens.

MAubrey wrote:
My copy arrive yesterday evening. I was able to get a quick centering test done using Fred's method before dinner last night. I hope to get some experience with it over the weekend.

I initially shot only 28mm and 45mm, hence the chimney between the two sets of bird images and the chimney in the middle for 35mm. The bird flew away. I probably should have gone for the chimney from the start.

28mm f/1.8
https://mikeaubreyphotography.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/centering-sigma-28-45mm-f1.8-at-28mm.jpg

35mm f/1.8
https://mikeaubreyphotography.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/centering-sigma-28-45mm-f1.8-at-35mm.jpg

45mm f/1.8
https://mikeaubreyphotography.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/centering-sigma-28-45mm-f1.8-at-45mm.jpg

So first, corner resolution is really good at all three focal lengths. Second, resolution wide open is basically perfect and the consistency across focal lengths is
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Jul 04, 2024 at 06:37 AM
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Im noticing the 28-45 looks to have more contrast build followed by the Loxia 25mm which I always believed was maybe the best 24/25 lens out there than interesting the 14-24 seems flatter contrast. In all honesty they all look good . I know with the drab sky it's a tough read but still very good for all of them. I am happy to see the copies posted have no centering issues.


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