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Optics: What does Leica do better these days?

  
 
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p.4 #1 · Optics: What does Leica do better these days?


As far as B&W film photography, their 60's era glass is a nice combination of tonality, resolution, sharpness stopped down, character wide open, and superb build quality. Unless their build quality improved in the last 20 years, I wouldn't rate them very high in that area today. Last time I had to repair a Leica lens -- an M mount aspherical -- the Leica trained repair tech in the US complained that modern Leica lenses weren't well made and all plasitc inside. But she complained about a lot of things, and I haven't used a "new" Leica lens for 20 years.

Their tops on resale value. A very deep used market for buying and selling. Even if you buy new, you'll probably get your money out of any lenses if you have to unload them, if you hold to them long enough, as inflation and periodic company prices increases trickle down to the used market.

Good deal of consistency with Leica optics -- you don't have to worry about getting a dog, if it's a bad pic it's not because of the lens, although in this Golden Age of Rangefinder Optics, there's a lot of great optics out there from different companies. We are lucky to have so many great choices.




Aug 08, 2026 at 11:43 AM
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p.4 #2 · Optics: What does Leica do better these days?


Why take up a two-year-old thread, though?


Aug 08, 2026 at 01:34 PM
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p.4 #3 · Optics: What does Leica do better these days?


Luke_Miller wrote:
While the APO Summicron-SL f2.0 lenses are manageable, the 50 Summilux-SL is in a different catagory. I think Leica's target customer base is relatively price insensitive, but is not going to accept lens weight above a certain point. Hence the discontinuation of the current 50 Summilux-SL in favor of a smaller and lighter replacement.(IQ & Size). Don't be suprised at the price if it is a Leica produced lens.



It is a Leica produced lens. It’s smaller because of Leicas new moulding system for the asph elements is letting them play with some new designs. It’ll have a signature a bit like the M Summilux but is sharper than it or the current SL Summilux across the frame. I got this directly from Leicas Australia.

Gordon



Aug 08, 2026 at 06:57 PM
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p.4 #4 · Optics: What does Leica do better these days?


SlowDriver wrote:
Yes, it is, but better than the Canon RF 28-70mm (or the Hasselblad 35-75mm)? And the Canon is half of the price...


I know I’m replying to a two year old post but I missed it then.

Yes. The Leica is better than Canons RF28-70 f2.0 which is really only *good*. The 2.8 is better wide open. And it matches Hasselblad’s zooms, old and new. It’s as good as the stunning Sony 28-70 f2.

The modern 2.8 zooms pretty much all have the sharpness you’d ever want but I still don’t think any of them balance sharpness and lens draw as nicely as the SL24-90, which is also an unmarked APO design.

I’ve spent the last week comparing standard zooms to decide what to take to Greenland next week and the SL24-90 kept up with all of them.

Gordon



Aug 08, 2026 at 07:04 PM
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p.4 #5 · Optics: What does Leica do better these days?


'it is impossible on the screen or on print, especially after any normal post-processing.'
'last time I did a comparison, 1 or 2 months ago, I could hardly see the difference..'

You don't say what differences you were looking for, PM, or how you assess 'good' quality. I feel genuine sympathy for you and those of your ilk, because we do hear this sad tale from time to time. Maybe it is a learned ability. But here the text gives the game away: last time I did 'A' comparison, meaning one instance.

I would suggest you need at least ten well-considered compositions to get even a cursory result of each lens's strengths and weaknesses. Bear in mind that each time you do this, you see new things about the lens you might have preferred but which now comes up second best to the comparator. Here are some suggestions, from one who shoots many lenses side-by-side, for years.

We need to look firstly at the content and lighting of the image and select *representative examples for our style and range of work*, set up identically for each lens, then examine in a decent CM'd monitor:

(i) color from the lens (casts, balance, oddities, richness, tonal gradation / posterising), and
(ii) how color behaves in post,
(iii) the contrast levels (compare histos),
(iv) the bokeh formation and interaction with the main subject,
(v) the highlight handling (and problematic CA, which needs no peeping),
(vi) the focus fade character front and back,
(vii) the volume of the images,
(viii) across-frame fade, in tone and contrast and resolution, and
(vix) the depth cues in off-plane content.

Add to that, if you shoot people, many other variables:

(x) skin tone handling, facial shaping (tone roll-off), imperfection handling (in-lens and in-post), strong highlight handling. This link below shows the very digital look that Zeiss was promoting as recently as 2018:

https://lenspire.zeiss.com/photo/en/article/can-you-use-big-gear-on-the-street-taking-street-portraits-of-strangers

So that is my Big Ten, more or less, reflecting my priorities. There are many more, like performance at various apertures, and subject-camera distances, across genres too.

Provided for suggestion, not a criticism of your current process or anything else people might find offensive - we have to add these things nowadays. The real challenge is finding any review that addresses these critical inputs to image quality. cheers, and all the best.



Aug 08, 2026 at 07:50 PM
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p.4 #6 · Optics: What does Leica do better these days?


Steve McCurry says he's using SL24-90mm 95% of the time:
https://www.digitalcameraworld.com/cameras/lenses/steve-mccurry-i-use-this-one-lens-95-percent-of-the-time-with-one-camera-body-and-ive-given-up-using-a-bag-legendary-photographer-reveals-his-current-camera-setup

flash wrote:
I’ve spent the last week comparing standard zooms to decide what to take to Greenland next week and the SL24-90 kept up with all of them.

Gordon





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p.4 #7 · Optics: What does Leica do better these days?


Good to know I was years ahead of Steve, and my lens goes farther than his does


Aug 08, 2026 at 08:06 PM
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p.4 #8 · Optics: What does Leica do better these days?




flash wrote:
It’s awesome that the 24-90 is one of the best standard zooms ever made.

SlowDriver wrote:
Yes, it is, but better than the Canon RF 28-70mm (or the Hasselblad 35-75mm)? And the Canon is half of the price...


flash wrote:
I know I’m replying to a two year old post but I missed it then.

Yes. The Leica is better than Canons RF28-70 f2.0 which is really only *good*. The 2.8 is better wide open. And it matches Hasselblad’s zooms, old and new. It’s as good as the stunning Sony 28-70 f2.

The modern 2.8 zooms pretty much all have the sharpness you’d ever want but I still don’t think any of them balance sharpness and lens draw as nicely as the SL24-90, which is also an unmarked APO design.

I’ve spent the last week comparing standard zooms to decide what to take
...Show more

No, you didn't miss it back then. https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1862215/1#16574692





Aug 08, 2026 at 08:37 PM
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p.4 #9 · Optics: What does Leica do better these days?


serhan_ wrote:
Steve McCurry says he's using SL24-90mm 95% of the time:
https://www.digitalcameraworld.com/cameras/lenses/steve-mccurry-i-use-this-one-lens-95-percent-of-the-time-with-one-camera-body-and-ive-given-up-using-a-bag-legendary-photographer-reveals-his-current-camera-setup



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RoamingScott wrote:
Good to know I was years ahead of Steve, and my lens goes farther than his does


Yes, he’s quite enamoured with it. I spent a day with him in Sydney and he really likes the 24-90. Mind you he is a paid ambassador for Leica now. He’s had to change out some stuff because of his injuries. They affect his ability to schlep large bags and do rapid lens changes.

He was genuinely lovely. Generous with his time and information. He still travels extensively.

Gordon



Aug 08, 2026 at 09:51 PM
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p.4 #10 · Optics: What does Leica do better these days?


serhan_ wrote:
Steve McCurry says he's using SL24-90mm 95% of the time:
https://www.digitalcameraworld.com/cameras/lenses/steve-mccurry-i-use-this-one-lens-95-percent-of-the-time-with-one-camera-body-and-ive-given-up-using-a-bag-legendary-photographer-reveals-his-current-camera-setup



Yeah, but then again, we know he also has stuff that doesn’t please him removed in post-processing. I’ve stopped taking him seriously since he was found to have done that and came up with his bogus reasoning.



Aug 08, 2026 at 11:10 PM
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p.4 #11 · Optics: What does Leica do better these days?


Optically, the R 100 AME is still the best macro lens ever made. Its tight focus throw outside of macro distance yields a spectacular landscape and lovely (if exceedingly sharp) portrait lens.

The lens in the Q3 43 is stellar. It comes with a reasonable body and great IQ, once you get a good grip for it. Nice all-in-one.

I loved the R 50/2 and wish I had held onto it.

For current line up, the M 35 Noct looks stellar, and I wish it would work on mirrorless or the EV cost less than a small car.



Aug 08, 2026 at 11:20 PM
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