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p.42 #1 · Official Z6 III Thread -


ilkka_nissila wrote:
Hmm. I'm wondering how Tony gets a slower read time in video from the Z6 III than the R6 II. It should be the other way around based on other reported findings online. Maybe a settings issue?


Yeah, his results are backwards, where he shows the R6 II beating both the A7S III and Z6 III. Here are the 4K60p results from my project:

R6 II 1/67
Z6 III 1/107
A7S III 1/114



Jul 27, 2024 at 11:28 AM
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p.42 #2 · Official Z6 III Thread -


What is missing in these tests that are used to show an alleged defect is how this relates to shooting video of an event in a club or anywhere else for that matter. I would like to see this demonstrated in a real piece of video. In other words, does it matter at all to the regular user of this camera?


Jul 29, 2024 at 06:10 AM
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p.42 #3 · Official Z6 III Thread -


A series of curious phenomena occurs on the internet...folks who do not seek out the answers they, um, seek...folks who do provide answers for others to evaluate for themselves...folks seeking answers who don't view the information/answers provided them...folks continuing to ask for information already provided as though it's never been provided...folks who interpret answers as attacks on their beloved brands...um, etc..

And then there are folks who pursue answers and share that information and get on with their day as better-informed people.



Jul 29, 2024 at 08:12 AM
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p.42 #4 · Official Z6 III Thread -


jdcoletv wrote:
What is missing in these tests that are used to show an alleged defect is how this relates to shooting video of an event in a club or anywhere else for that matter. I would like to see this demonstrated in a real piece of video. In other words, does it matter at all to the regular user of this camera?


The noise demonstrations are in the shadows relative to middle gray, at progressively deeper stops up to -5EV. You can apply that to the relative exposures levels you experience in your own shooting to see how the noise performance relates.



Jul 29, 2024 at 09:51 AM
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p.42 #5 · Official Z6 III Thread -


https://www.zsystemuser.com/z-mount-cameras/nikon-z-camera-reviews/nikon-z6-iii-camera-review.html

I know many here view Thom with suspicion but I find his reviews useful. His ebook is also out.



Jul 29, 2024 at 10:13 PM
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p.42 #6 · Official Z6 III Thread -


jimmy462 wrote:
A series of curious phenomena occurs on the internet...folks who do not seek out the answers they, um, seek...folks who do provide answers for others to evaluate for themselves...folks seeking answers who don't view the information/answers provided them...folks continuing to ask for information already provided as though it's never been provided...folks who interpret answers as attacks on their beloved brands...um, etc..

And then there are folks who pursue answers and share that information and get on with their day as better-informed people.


Many folks on the internet purporting to provide answers are actually providing nonsense. And few folks can or want or can be bothered to discern the difference.

Fortunately we also have Jim Kasson, Bob2n, Snapsy and their ilk.




Jul 29, 2024 at 11:18 PM
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p.42 #7 · Official Z6 III Thread -


Every reviewer/site/etc. has their caveats. In the world of lousy YouTube videos and influencers, I appreciate being able to read long form written reviews from people who are knowledgeable and technically competent. Thom’s perspective as a reviewer is still useful IMO, even if his prognostications often miss.

GroovyGeek wrote:
https://www.zsystemuser.com/z-mount-cameras/nikon-z-camera-reviews/nikon-z6-iii-camera-review.html

I know many here view Thom with suspicion but I find his reviews useful. His ebook is also out.




Jul 29, 2024 at 11:40 PM
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p.42 #8 · Official Z6 III Thread -




Guess what? Still a non-issue.



Aug 27, 2024 at 10:19 AM
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p.42 #9 · Official Z6 III Thread -


I recently picked up a Z6iii to add as a second camera to my Z8. What a fun camera to use — I love the size, love how Nikon have not messed with my muscle memory by moving around buttons compared to the Z8, and the camera is just fast and responsive. I am a huge fan of the Z8, but the Z6iii does a great imitation of its big brother. I think Thom's review nails it, you get a lot of performance out of this camera for a pretty reasonable price.


Aug 27, 2024 at 12:21 PM
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p.42 #10 · Official Z6 III Thread -


After saying I wouldn't buy one back in June, I've made myself into a liar. My Z6III will be here on Monday. First new body since the Z6 back in 2018. The Z6 still does well and I have no reason to upgrade, I just like new toys sometimes. Looking forward to joining everyone else but won't be participating in pushing limits so I can complain about DR and flickering, I think it's gonna work just fine normally.


Oct 12, 2024 at 11:43 AM
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p.42 #11 · Official Z6 III Thread -


I'm sorry if this has been discussed but I'm hoping for a solution. Eye autofocus nails the focus 100% of the time on the eyeglasses whenever I'm shooting someone wearing them. Is everyone having the same experience? And is there a solution? Thanks!!


Oct 12, 2024 at 08:04 PM
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JPuckettPhoto wrote:
After saying I wouldn't buy one back in June, I've made myself into a liar. My Z6III will be here on Monday. First new body since the Z6 back in 2018. The Z6 still does well and I have no reason to upgrade, I just like new toys sometimes. Looking forward to joining everyone else but won't be participating in pushing limits so I can complain about DR and flickering, I think it's gonna work just fine normally.


The software functiality is wonderful. Things like AE burst, the new leveler, the far expanded customization options. I don't care about the faster frame rate or better AF. But the VF flicker is real and kinda annoying even if you are just doing stills. And yes, the flippy doodah is absolutely horrible.



Oct 12, 2024 at 09:53 PM
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freddyrozen wrote:
I'm sorry if this has been discussed but I'm hoping for a solution. Eye autofocus nails the focus 100% of the time on the eyeglasses whenever I'm shooting someone wearing them. Is everyone having the same experience? And is there a solution? Thanks!!


Are you using DOF shallow enough so that when the eyeglasses are in focus the eyes aren't? If that's the case then your noses and ears are always out of focus.



Oct 12, 2024 at 09:55 PM
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Received my Z6III last week, thought I'd write up some impressions. I've had a Z6 since launch and am just a hobbyist, so I'm not an expert and don't take thousands upon thousands of photos. Here lately I've almost exclusively been using my camera to shoot youth soccer, specifically my daughters' teams. This past weekend saw my two daughters play a total of 5 games, I ended up taking over 500+ total photos at 3 of them and came away with over 150 shots that I kept.

First impressions of holding the body, while it's not much bigger than the Z6, I actually was surprised that it was slightly noticeable. It feels more substantial in the hand, but not terribly so. I can tell it's bigger (even before attaching the cage), but that's fine with me since I'm a bigger/taller guy with what I assume are larger hands. I'm the type of person whose pinky finger hangs off the bottom of the grip of the Z6 (and the Z6III). I have a Smallrig L-bracket on the Z6, which I really appreciated for ergonomics, so I also ordered the Smallrig "night eagle" cage for the Z6III for the same purpose (the added height is much more comfortable for me and gives my pinky somewhere to rest).

Continuing with the ergonomics, one thing I found odd is that all of a sudden, the palm of my right hand keeps inadvertently pushing the playback button as well as the right-side of the circle, causing my focal point to move off to the right. I don't recall ever having a problem with this on the Z6. Comparing the two, it does feel like the controls of the Z6III are a bit more far to the right than the Z6, but I didn't break out the digital caliper to confirm. I got better with my grip as the weekend wore on and I'm not sure I accidentally hit any buttons by the 3rd game. It also could be attributed to the cage I'm using, since it adds a bit of girth to the grip, unlike the L-bracket I used previously, so my palm may be rotated around more than what it used to be.

And speaking of the playback button, we all know it was moved to the lower-right...I think I really like it there and I took to the movement quickly. When using my 180-600, I had to map the lens button to be playback so I could spot-check images, otherwise I had to let that heavy lens hang off the body. Going into playback with my right hand is easier/safer and I can repurpose that lens button for something else now. One thing I did find odd, though, is that on my Z6, the lens button would take me into and out of playback, but on the Z6III, it only takes me into playback but won't take me back out.

Random other thoughts....I think the swivel screen is a good addition, I like being able to close it for storage/transport. I feel like it's more versatile than the tilt-only screen on the Z6. I've read a lot of hate for it but for my use-case, it's fine. The EVF upgrade was immediately noticeable, and I love it. I've even left the brightness on auto and every time I'd look through the EVF, especially at those sunny soccer games, it was great to immediately be reminded of the new tech. Is it worth upgrading the entire body for? Of course not, but it's nice to have for sure.

As stated, I shot 3 youth soccer games over the weekend. I'm not much of a burst shooter (dipping my toes into it, though), so the vast majority of these are single shots, which is fine with players at these age ranges. I always had my Z6 set to a 5-minute sleep timer because it was so slow to wake up, so that's what I've set my Z6III to. With that said, with one fully charged battery, I was able to shoot two games. In total about 350 shots, with the camera staying on and hanging around my neck for a lot of that. I also preview photos from time to time to verify exposure, especially with one game where it was early morning and the sun topped the tree line at halftime, so had to adjust some settings. So one battery got down to the last bar; took 350'ish shots, body powered on for what I'll guess was about 60-90 minutes total.

As far as image quality, it looks the same as my Z6. I don't pixel peep, what I see is what I see. I don't think I'd be able to tell a difference between the two in a blind test. Although, during the early morning frost game, I did have to shoot at ISO 3200 and was really pleased with the lack of discernable noise at normal viewing. I didn't compare directly to the Z6 but the Z6III image looked more clear than what I would've expected before. Hard to compare without having both bodies present, though. All shots taken over the weekend were with the 180-600 and the camera handled very well.

Regarding the auto-focus capabilities, which I know is a big point for this body, I have to admit that I never really had much trouble with the AF on the Z6. For youth soccer, I'd use AF-C and Wide-L and it always just worked for me. Again, we're talking U10 and U12 soccer here, so not the fastest athletes out there, but these settings worked well enough to where most of my AF misses were due to other players in the way or due to my own lack of quickness getting focus. With the Z6III, I'm using the same settings, but have decided to throw in subject detection (set specifically to people, not auto), which I used the entire weekend. I'm honestly not sure it really helped all that much, but it is soccer and lots of movement. I was impressed with its ability to continue tracking a person constantly changing direction though, seeing their eye, then the back of their head, then their eye again and they got spun around. These are all shots I felt I would be getting anyway. What I really need to do, though, is start testing the 3d-tracking during games, maybe next week.

All in all, I'm super happy with the new body. I look forward to using the Z6III for the next few years.



Oct 21, 2024 at 09:37 AM
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p.42 #15 · Official Z6 III Thread -


No, this is not the case. The eyes are just a tiny bit softer than the eye glass frame, but clearly not the main focus point.


GroovyGeek wrote:
Are you using DOF shallow enough so that when the eyeglasses are in focus the eyes aren't? If that's the case then your noses and ears are always out of focus.





Oct 21, 2024 at 09:53 AM
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p.42 #16 · Official Z6 III Thread -


Nikon Z6III to get Bird Eye AF Mode in 2025

https://thenewcamera.com/nikon-z6-iii-to-get-bird-eye-af-mode-in-2025/



Nov 12, 2024 at 05:53 AM
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p.42 #17 · Official Z6 III Thread -


Vento wrote:
Nikon Z6III to get Bird Eye AF Mode in 2025

https://thenewcamera.com/nikon-z6-iii-to-get-bird-eye-af-mode-in-2025/


That's just a Youtuber yapping his mouth, not facts.



Nov 12, 2024 at 06:24 AM
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p.42 #18 · Official Z6 III Thread -


jimmy462 wrote:
A series of curious phenomena occurs on the internet...folks who do not seek out the answers they, um, seek...folks who do provide answers for others to evaluate for themselves...folks seeking answers who don't view the information/answers provided them...folks continuing to ask for information already provided as though it's never been provided...folks who interpret answers as attacks on their beloved brands...um, etc..

And then there are folks who pursue answers and share that information and get on with their day as better-informed people.


And then there are folks like me… well, like I TRY to be, anyway… who stumble along in blissful ignorance. Between facts that aren’t factual and advertising disguised as information, sometimes it’s better to not be informed.




Nov 12, 2024 at 11:11 AM
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p.42 #19 · Official Z6 III Thread -


RoamingScott wrote:



Guess what? Still a non-issue.


It's kinda an issue. For example, if in Auto and the camera steps from ISO 5000 to 6400, the difference in exposure, noise, flicker, and color shifting is quite significant. PetaPixel said the flicker is present if you push it way past 12,800 ISO, but its VERY noticeable at 5000. Unless my copy was really bad because mine had green/magenta color shifting and heavy flickering at 5000 ISO, than cleaned up when hitting the 2nd base ISO. This issue solely depends on someone shooting in Auto



Nov 12, 2024 at 12:34 PM
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p.42 #20 · Official Z6 III Thread -


I have the vertical grip coming in for the Z6III, now I have to find the time to trade my Z6II in for the Z6III. Went back to the Z6II for a few events recently and just noticed how laggy that camera is to shoot next to the Z9, which basically prompted me really considering trading the Z6II in. Z6II IQ was great, but the performance and lack of a few key AF modes that I use on the Z9 basically made me consider the upgrade.


Nov 13, 2024 at 10:34 AM
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