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InFocus2014 wrote:
First, I am not an accomplished nature photographer. My normal kit includes a Sony A1 and A7R5. When out with friends, I have had a chance to shoot some nature with the Nikon Z8 and Canon R5. I recently added the Fuji GFX 100S II to my kit.

When I received my GF 500mm a couple weeks ago, I tested on my MTF50 targets and detailed subjects. I was blown-away with the sharpness & contrast on the 100mp. I don't think any of the $14K+ Sony/Canon/Nikon lenses, on their respective bodies, could have done any better.

Then when evening approached and it
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Thanks for the information, especially the input about your 100S II.
As I indicated, I'd really like to see some images. In fact, I am very curious about uncropped work that illustrates the bokeh, as backgrounds and foreground rendering is just as important as point of focus. I spend a lot of time in the field, shooting prone or seeking to get at eye level. In these conditions, I'm often shooting through vegetation or forced to include vegetation in the background. The best wildlife lenses will continue to isolate the point of focus while softening the out of focus areas. While I do not expect a medium format 500 f5.6 lens to have the bokeh of a 400 f2.8, I'd expect it to look similar to what a 400mm f4 might produce.

cheers,
bruce

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Sep 25, 2024 at 02:12 PM
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p.8 #2 · GF 500mm f/5.6


OwlsEyes wrote:
Thanks for the information, especially the input about your 100S II.
As I indicated, I'd really like to see some images. In fact, I am very curious about uncropped worked that illustrates the bokeh, as backgrounds and foreground rendering is just as important as point of focus. I spend a lot of time in the field, shooting prone or seeking to get at eye level. In these conditions, I'm often shooting through vegetation or forced to include vegetation in the background. The best wildlife lenses will continue to isolate the point of focus while softening the out of focus areas.
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Yeah, I always salivate looking at shots from a 400mm f2.8, 500mm f2.8 or 600mm f4. At 78, I just cannot carry that weight for hours, anymore. 500mm with an effective f4.4 (bokeh) and a bit less than 1.4kg, the Fuji will need to work as my compromise. I can carry this rig all day and the bokeh is excellent. I can live with that - particularly since I am just doing this for "sh_ts and giggles".



Sep 25, 2024 at 02:54 PM
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p.8 #3 · GF 500mm f/5.6


I see Fuji have continued their marketing lies by announcing the XF 500mm and claiming it is designed for APS-C...

Somehow it is 21 elements in 14 groups, a 95mm front filter thread and 1335g weight. That sounds familiar...





$5k to use a 2x crop of the centre of the image circle. Edit: $3k USD sorry.

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Oct 14, 2024 at 07:19 PM
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$3K but I get your point. Would be nice if it came with interchangeable mounts like the old Tamron Adaptall, so I could put it on either my X-T5 or my GFX100.

(Anyone else still have an Adaptall lens? I still use my 90mm macro, and it works on both systems.)



Oct 14, 2024 at 10:34 PM
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p.8 #5 · GF 500mm f/5.6


They fixed the tripod mount position!


Oct 14, 2024 at 11:10 PM
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p.8 #6 · GF 500mm f/5.6


This is hilarious.

thrice wrote:
I see Fuji have continued their marketing lies by announcing the XF 500mm and claiming it is designed for APS-C...

Somehow it is 21 elements in 14 groups, a 95mm front filter thread and 1335g weight. That sounds familiar...

https://fujifilm-x.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/XF500mmF5_6_lensDanmen-1.jpg

https://fujifilm-x.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/gf500_img11-1.jpg

$5k to use a 2x crop of the centre of the image circle.




Oct 14, 2024 at 11:15 PM
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p.8 #7 · GF 500mm f/5.6


Lol I think they actually made it worse!

sirimiri wrote:
They fixed the tripod mount position!




Oct 14, 2024 at 11:54 PM
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p.8 #8 · GF 500mm f/5.6


I wonder how far we are from someone doing that, perhaps one of the newer Chinese manufacturers like Viltrox or Laowa.

Sorry I only saw the AU pricing $3k USD yes.

kenbennett wrote:
$3K but I get your point. Would be nice if it came with interchangeable mounts like the old Tamron Adaptall, so I could put it on either my X-T5 or my GFX100.

(Anyone else still have an Adaptall lens? I still use my 90mm macro, and it works on both systems.)




Oct 14, 2024 at 11:56 PM
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p.8 #9 · GF 500mm f/5.6


thrice wrote:
I see Fuji have continued their marketing lies by announcing the XF 500mm and claiming it is designed for APS-C...

Somehow it is 21 elements in 14 groups, a 95mm front filter thread and 1335g weight. That sounds familiar...

https://fujifilm-x.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/XF500mmF5_6_lensDanmen-1.jpg

https://fujifilm-x.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/gf500_img11-1.jpg

$5k to use a 2x crop of the centre of the image circle. Edit: $3k USD sorry.


Ha! The moment I saw that lens, I thought; "they'd be stupid if they didn't use at least some parts from the GF 500".

Edit: Is the lens diagram overlay from Fuji, or did you or someone else do it?



Oct 15, 2024 at 02:23 AM
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p.8 #10 · GF 500mm f/5.6


Haha directly from Fuji site 😂

Makten wrote:
Ha! The moment I saw that lens, I thought; "they'd be stupid if they didn't use at least some parts from the GF 500".

Edit: Is the lens diagram overlay from Fuji, or did you or someone else do it?




Oct 15, 2024 at 02:47 AM
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p.8 #11 · GF 500mm f/5.6


thrice wrote:
Haha directly from Fuji site 😂



Makes you wonder why on earth the prices aren't identical. Might of course be a tad better quality control on GF lenses, but...



Oct 15, 2024 at 04:19 AM
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p.8 #12 · GF 500mm f/5.6


The DID say something to the effect that the development of the GF lens aided the engineering of this XF version...so they weren't LYING


Oct 15, 2024 at 09:10 AM
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p.8 #13 · GF 500mm f/5.6


sirimiri wrote:
They fixed the tripod mount position!


What does that mean? Did I miss the announcement?



Oct 15, 2024 at 10:31 AM
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p.8 #14 · GF 500mm f/5.6


Considering the low volume this lens will be sold in either X or Gfx, it make sense to design them together. If it yielded a lighter GF and a better IQ XF, it seems that we win in either case.


Oct 15, 2024 at 10:38 AM
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p.8 #15 · GF 500mm f/5.6


Jeffrey wrote:
What does that mean? Did I miss the announcement?


https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1858767/6#16634859

Fuji flipped the tripod ring and switchbank locations, between the XF and GF. Maybe Fuji's trying to make the XF lens/X body combination balance better on say a gimbal? We don't know yet, so maybe my "fixed" comment is premature!



Oct 15, 2024 at 04:30 PM
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p.8 #16 · GF 500mm f/5.6


sirimiri wrote:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1858767/6#16634859

Fuji flipped the tripod ring and switchbank locations, between the XF and GF. Maybe Fuji's trying to make the XF lens/X body combination balance better on say a gimbal? We don't know yet, so maybe my "fixed" comment is premature!


I'm not too concerned, as I modified my foot to reach the balance point.



Oct 15, 2024 at 06:36 PM
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p.8 #17 · GF 500mm f/5.6


Spy vs. Spy...will you get the white (hat) or black (hat)?


Oct 15, 2024 at 11:42 PM
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p.8 #18 · GF 500mm f/5.6


thrice wrote:
I see Fuji have continued their marketing lies by announcing the XF 500mm and claiming it is designed for APS-C...

Somehow it is 21 elements in 14 groups, a 95mm front filter thread and 1335g weight. That sounds familiar...

https://fujifilm-x.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/XF500mmF5_6_lensDanmen-1.jpg

https://fujifilm-x.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/gf500_img11-1.jpg

$5k to use a 2x crop of the centre of the image circle. Edit: $3k USD sorry.


To be fair, the mount is designed for APS-C, so in a sense Fuji is correct.



Oct 15, 2024 at 11:56 PM
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p.8 #19 · GF 500mm f/5.6


Makten wrote:
Makes you wonder why on earth the prices aren't identical. Might of course be a tad better quality control on GF lenses, but...


The asking price is based on how desirable something is estimated to be to the customer. Since the GF lens gives a larger image it can give more value to the user of a GFX series camera. In an XF lens there is likely a mask or multiple masks to reduce the size of the image, to cut down on unwanted reflections and this could mean the XF lens gives a better image in certain circumstances (backlighting, in particular) on the APS-C cameras than the GF version. Someone who uses a medium format digital camera lilkely has more money than another photographer using APS-C, thus also the resources to buy a more expensive lens are likely there.



Oct 16, 2024 at 05:43 AM
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p.8 #20 · GF 500mm f/5.6


ilkka_nissila wrote:
The asking price is based on how desirable something is estimated to be to the customer. Since the GF lens gives a larger image it can give more value to the user of a GFX series camera. In an XF lens there is likely a mask or multiple masks to reduce the size of the image, to cut down on unwanted reflections and this could mean the XF lens gives a better image in certain circumstances (backlighting, in particular) on the APS-C cameras than the GF version. Someone who uses a medium format digital camera lilkely has more money than
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Your last argument is the only one that makes any sense. The image circle doesn't change the manufacturing cost or design cost, when both lenses share the exact same optics.



Oct 16, 2024 at 05:57 AM
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