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p.5 #1X100VI first impressions + running commentary
RoamingScott wrote:
Make sure that 1) your X app on iOS is updated and 2) your VI is updated to 1.01.
Have the current version and while it does some things usefully and fine, it is really dumb about other basic things. For example, when I have my iPad Pro attached to my Apple Keyboard, Fujifilm sortware apparently doesn’t know this and it switches to “portrait” orientation… unlike any other apps I run. It’s
It should, like all iOS apps, use the devices information about how the user is holding it to switch between landscape and portrait orientation, and the software should be designed to work both ways and accommodate the switch.
This feels like one of this annoying (and obvious) little Fujifilm fails that sometimes interfere with otherwise good products.
Make sure that 1) your X app on iOS is updated and 2) your VI is updated to 1.01.
Have the current version and while it does some things usefully and fine, it is really dumb about other basic things. For example, when I have my iPad Pro attached to my Apple Keyboard, Fujifilm sortware apparently doesn’t know this and it switches to “portrait” orientation… unlike any other apps I run. It’s
It should, like all iOS apps, use the devices information about how the user is holding it to switch between landscape and portrait orientation, and the software should be designed to work both ways and accommodate the switch.
This feels like one of this annoying (and obvious) little Fujifilm fails that sometimes interfere with otherwise good products.
Mar 03, 2024 at 10:32 AM
p.5 #2X100VI first impressions + running commentary
nepali wrote:
If you're serious about editing on an ipad, you should already have an SD dongle reader as it's faster than any wifi transfer protocol and doesn't waste your camera battery for the transfer process. Best $10 accessory I've ever bought.Can you not connect the camera directly to iPad using usb-c to usb-c and transfer photos?I don't think so - there doesn't seem to be the equivalent of the MacOS Image Capture utility under iPadOSSo, when you connect it via usb-c, does it not show up in Files app to browse, copy, move, etc. as an external storage? With my A7CR, if I have to edit on the go, I just connect it to my phone (iPhone 15 Pro Max) via usb-c and the camera shows up as external storage in Files. I then copy photos I want to edit and open them up in Lightroom Mobile. I am hoping X100VI works the same way. It also comes in handy to backup photos to cloud while on the go.
UPDATE: Found the section on X100VI's...Show more →
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AZ Photo wrote:
If you're serious about editing on an ipad, you should already have an SD dongle reader as it's faster than any wifi transfer protocol and doesn't waste your camera battery for the transfer process. Best $10 accessory I've ever bought.Can you not connect the camera directly to iPad using usb-c to usb-c and transfer photos?I don't think so - there doesn't seem to be the equivalent of the MacOS Image Capture utility under iPadOSSo, when you connect it via usb-c, does it not show up in Files app to browse, copy, move, etc. as an external storage? With my A7CR, if I have to edit on the go, I just connect it to my phone (iPhone 15 Pro Max) via usb-c and the camera shows up as external storage in Files. I then copy photos I want to edit and open them up in Lightroom Mobile. I am hoping X100VI works the same way. It also comes in handy to backup photos to cloud while on the go.
UPDATE: Found the section on X100VI's manual for connecting directly to phone/iPad using USB-C. https://fujifilm-dsc.com/en/manual/x100vi/connections/usage_usb/#gsc.tab=0. The top part talks about Android phones but it should work with iPhone 15 series/iPad Pro as well since the series supports OTG via usb-c.Yes - you're right - but you have to use the Apple Photos app - the camera won't show up as an external drive in the Files app
Just tested this, and yes, it acts just as if you are using an SD card dongle. The VI immediately switches to USB mode and the transfer of full size jpeg files is nearly instant compared to the wireless via the app. No more dongle, horray! Thanks for posting this, both of you.
AZ Photo wrote
nepali wrote
RoamingScott wrote
Make sure that 1) your X app on iOS is updated and 2) your VI is updated to 1.01If you're serious about editing on an ipad, you should already have an SD dongle reader as it's faster than any wifi transfer protocol and doesn't waste your camera battery for the transfer process. Best $10 accessory I've ever bought.
UPDATE: Found the section on X100VI's...Show more →
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AZ Photo wrote:
nepali wrote
AZ Photo wrote
nepali wrote
RoamingScott wrote
Make sure that 1) your X app on iOS is updated and 2) your VI is updated to 1.01If you're serious about editing on an ipad, you should already have an SD dongle reader as it's faster than any wifi transfer protocol and doesn't waste your camera battery for the transfer process. Best $10 accessory I've ever bought.
UPDATE: Found the section on X100VI's manual for connecting directly to phone/iPad using USB-C. https://fujifilm-dsc.com/en/manual/x100vi/connections/usage_usb/#gsc.tab=0. The top part talks about Android phones but it should work with iPhone 15 series/iPad Pro as well since the series supports OTG via usb-c.
Just tested this, and yes, it acts just as if you are using an SD card dongle. The VI immediately switches to USB mode and the transfer of full size jpeg files is nearly instant compared to the wireless via the app. No more dongle, horray! Thanks for posting this, both of you.
Mar 03, 2024 at 10:47 AM
p.5 #3X100VI first impressions + running commentary
RoamingScott wrote:
If you're serious about editing on an ipad, you should already have an SD dongle reader as it's faster than any wifi transfer protocol and doesn't waste your camera battery for the transfer process. Best $10 accessory I've ever bought.Can you not connect the camera directly to iPad using usb-c to usb-c and transfer photos?I don't think so - there doesn't seem to be the equivalent of the MacOS Image Capture utility under iPadOSSo, when you connect it via usb-c, does it not show up in Files app to browse, copy, move, etc. as an external storage? With my A7CR, if I have to edit on the go, I just connect it to my phone (iPhone 15 Pro Max) via usb-c and the camera shows up as external storage in Files. I then copy photos I want to edit and open them up in Lightroom Mobile. I am hoping X100VI works the same way. It also comes in handy to backup photos to cloud while on the go.
UPDATE: Found the section on X100VI's manual for connecting directly to phone/iPad using USB-C. https://fujifilm-dsc.com/en/manual/x100vi/connections/usage_usb/#gsc.tab=0. The top part talks about Android phones but it should work with iPhone 15 series/iPad Pro as well since the series supports OTG via usb-c.---------------------------------------------
If you're serious about editing on an ipad, you should already have an SD dongle reader as it's faster than any wifi transfer protocol and doesn't waste your camera battery for the transfer process. Best $10 accessory I've ever bought.Can you not connect the camera directly to iPad using usb-c to usb-c and transfer photos?I don't think so - there doesn't seem to be the equivalent of the MacOS Image Capture utility under iPadOSSo, when you connect it via usb-c, does it not show up in Files app to browse, copy, move, etc. as an external storage? With my A7CR, if I have to edit on the go, I just connect it to my phone (iPhone 15 Pro Max) via usb-c and the camera shows up as external storage in Files. I then copy photos I want to edit and open them up in Lightroom Mobile. I am hoping X100VI works the same way. It also comes in handy to backup photos to cloud while on the go.
UPDATE: Found the section on X100VI's manual for connecting directly to phone/iPad using USB-C. https://fujifilm-dsc.com/en/manual/x100vi/connections/usage_usb/#gsc.tab=0. The top part talks about Android phones but it should work with iPhone 15 series/iPad Pro as well since the series supports OTG via usb-c.Yes - you're right - but you have to use the Apple Photos app - the camera won't show up as an external drive in the Files appJust tested this, and yes, it acts just as if you are using an SD card dongle. The VI immediately switches to USB mode and the transfer of full size jpeg files is nearly instant compared to the wireless via the app. No more dongle, horray! Thanks for posting this, both of you.
Phew! That is great to hear! Thank you.
nepali wrote
AZ Photo wrote
nepali wrote
RoamingScott wrote
Make sure that 1) your X app on iOS is updated and 2) your VI is updated to 1.01If you're serious about editing on an ipad, you should already have an SD dongle reader as it's faster than any wifi transfer protocol and doesn't waste your camera battery for the transfer process. Best $10 accessory I've ever bought.
UPDATE: Found the section on X100VI's manual for connecting directly to phone/iPad using USB-C. https://fujifilm-dsc.com/en/manual/x100vi/connections/usage_usb/#gsc.tab=0. The top part talks about Android phones but it should work with iPhone 15 series/iPad Pro as well since the series supports OTG via usb-c.
AZ Photo wrote
nepali wrote
AZ Photo wrote
nepali wrote
RoamingScott wrote
Make sure that 1) your X app on iOS is updated and 2) your VI is updated to 1.01If you're serious about editing on an ipad, you should already have an SD dongle reader as it's faster than any wifi transfer protocol and doesn't waste your camera battery for the transfer process. Best $10 accessory I've ever bought.
UPDATE: Found the section on X100VI's manual for connecting directly to phone/iPad using USB-C. https://fujifilm-dsc.com/en/manual/x100vi/connections/usage_usb/#gsc.tab=0. The top part talks about Android phones but it should work with iPhone 15 series/iPad Pro as well since the series supports OTG via usb-c.
Phew! That is great to hear! Thank you.
Mar 03, 2024 at 11:42 AM
p.5 #4X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Note that it uses the Photos app “import” panel, not Files.
nepali wrote:
If you're serious about editing on an ipad, you should already have an SD dongle reader as it's faster than any wifi transfer protocol and doesn't waste your camera battery for the transfer process. Best $10 accessory I've ever bought.Can you not connect the camera directly to iPad using usb-c to usb-c and transfer photos?I don't think so - there doesn't seem to be the equivalent of the MacOS Image Capture utility under iPadOSSo, when you connect it via usb-c, does it not show up in Files app to browse, copy, move, etc. as an external storage? With my A7CR, if I have to edit on the go, I just connect it to my phone (iPhone 15 Pro Max) via usb-c and the camera shows up as external storage in Files. I then copy photos I want to edit and open them up in Lightroom Mobile. I am hoping X100VI works the same way. It also comes in handy to backup photos to cloud while on the go.
UPDATE: Found the section on X100VI's manual for connecting directly to phone/iPad using USB-C. https://fujifilm-dsc.com/en/manual/x100vi/connections/usage_usb/#gsc.tab=0. The top part talks about Android phones but it should work with iPhone 15 series/iPad Pro as well since the series supports OTG via usb-c.---------------------------------------------
I don't think so - there doesn't seem to be the equivalent of the MacOS Image Capture utility under iPadOSSo, when you connect it via usb-c, does it not show up in Files app to browse, copy, move, etc. as an external storage? With my A7CR, if I have to edit on the go, I just connect it to my phone (iPhone 15 Pro Max) via usb-c and the camera shows up as external storage in Files. I then copy photos I want to edit and open them up in Lightroom Mobile. I am hoping X100VI works the same way. It also comes in handy to backup photos to cloud while on the go.
UPDATE: Found the section on X100VI's manual for connecting directly to phone/iPad using USB-C. https://fujifilm-dsc.com/en/manual/x100vi/connections/usage_usb/#gsc.tab=0. The top part talks about Android phones but it should work with iPhone 15 series/iPad Pro as well since the series supports OTG via usb-c.Yes - you're right - but you have to use the Apple Photos app - the camera won't show up as an external drive in the Files appJust tested this, and yes, it acts just as if you are using an SD card dongle. The VI immediately switches to USB mode and the transfer of full size jpeg files is nearly instant compared to the wireless via the app. No more dongle, horray! Thanks for posting this, both of you.Phew! That is great to hear! Thank you.
nepali wrote:
RoamingScott wrote
nepali wrote
AZ Photo wrote
nepali wrote
RoamingScott wrote
Make sure that 1) your X app on iOS is updated and 2) your VI is updated to 1.01If you're serious about editing on an ipad, you should already have an SD dongle reader as it's faster than any wifi transfer protocol and doesn't waste your camera battery for the transfer process. Best $10 accessory I've ever bought.
UPDATE: Found the section on X100VI's manual for connecting directly to phone/iPad using USB-C. https://fujifilm-dsc.com/en/manual/x100vi/connections/usage_usb/#gsc.tab=0. The top part talks about Android phones but it should work with iPhone 15 series/iPad Pro as well since the series supports OTG via usb-c.
AZ Photo wrote
nepali wrote
AZ Photo wrote
nepali wrote
Can you not connect the camera directly to iPad using usb-c to usb-c and transfer photos?UPDATE: Found the section on X100VI's manual for connecting directly to phone/iPad using USB-C. https://fujifilm-dsc.com/en/manual/x100vi/connections/usage_usb/#gsc.tab=0. The top part talks about Android phones but it should work with iPhone 15 series/iPad Pro as well since the series supports OTG via usb-c.
Mar 03, 2024 at 11:59 AM
p.5 #5X100VI first impressions + running commentary
RoamingScott wrote:
Note that it uses the Photos app “import” panel, not Files.
I don't think so - there doesn't seem to be the equivalent of the MacOS Image Capture utility under iPadOSSo, when you connect it via usb-c, does it not show up in Files app to browse, copy, move, etc. as an external storage? With my A7CR, if I have to edit on the go, I just connect it to my phone (iPhone 15 Pro Max) via usb-c and the camera shows up as external storage in Files. I then copy photos I want to edit and open them up in Lightroom Mobile. I am hoping X100VI works the same way. It also comes in handy to backup photos to cloud while on the go.
UPDATE: Found the section on X100VI's manual for connecting directly to phone/iPad using USB-C. https://fujifilm-dsc.com/en/manual/x100vi/connections/usage_usb/#gsc.tab=0. The top part talks about Android phones but it should work with iPhone 15 series/iPad Pro as well since the series supports OTG via usb-c.---------------------------------------------
So, when you connect it via usb-c, does it not show up in Files app to browse, copy, move, etc. as an external storage? With my A7CR, if I have to edit on the go, I just connect it to my phone (iPhone 15 Pro Max) via usb-c and the camera shows up as external storage in Files. I then copy photos I want to edit and open them up in Lightroom Mobile. I am hoping X100VI works the same way. It also comes in handy to backup photos to cloud while on the go.
UPDATE: Found the section on X100VI's manual for connecting directly to phone/iPad using USB-C. https://fujifilm-dsc.com/en/manual/x100vi/connections/usage_usb/#gsc.tab=0. The top part talks about Android phones but it should work with iPhone 15 series/iPad Pro as well since the series supports OTG via usb-c.Yes - you're right - but you have to use the Apple Photos app - the camera won't show up as an external drive in the Files appJust tested this, and yes, it acts just as if you are using an SD card dongle. The VI immediately switches to USB mode and the transfer of full size jpeg files is nearly instant compared to the wireless via the app. No more dongle, horray! Thanks for posting this, both of you.Phew! That is great to hear! Thank you.
Oh!
. So, it does not show up as external storage in Files then...ugh!
Note that it uses the Photos app “import” panel, not Files.
nepali wrote
RoamingScott wrote
nepali wrote
AZ Photo wrote
nepali wrote
Can you not connect the camera directly to iPad using usb-c to usb-c and transfer photos?UPDATE: Found the section on X100VI's manual for connecting directly to phone/iPad using USB-C. https://fujifilm-dsc.com/en/manual/x100vi/connections/usage_usb/#gsc.tab=0. The top part talks about Android phones but it should work with iPhone 15 series/iPad Pro as well since the series supports OTG via usb-c.
AZ Photo wrote
nepali wrote
AZ Photo wrote
I don't think so - there doesn't seem to be the equivalent of the MacOS Image Capture utility under iPadOSUPDATE: Found the section on X100VI's manual for connecting directly to phone/iPad using USB-C. https://fujifilm-dsc.com/en/manual/x100vi/connections/usage_usb/#gsc.tab=0. The top part talks about Android phones but it should work with iPhone 15 series/iPad Pro as well since the series supports OTG via usb-c.
Oh!
. So, it does not show up as external storage in Files then...ugh!Mar 03, 2024 at 12:37 PM
p.5 #6X100VI first impressions + running commentary
What is the difference in practice? You can always move photos to Files later.
nepali wrote:
So, when you connect it via usb-c, does it not show up in Files app to browse, copy, move, etc. as an external storage? With my A7CR, if I have to edit on the go, I just connect it to my phone (iPhone 15 Pro Max) via usb-c and the camera shows up as external storage in Files. I then copy photos I want to edit and open them up in Lightroom Mobile. I am hoping X100VI works the same way. It also comes in handy to backup photos to cloud while on the go.
UPDATE: Found the section on X100VI's manual for connecting directly to phone/iPad using USB-C. https://fujifilm-dsc.com/en/manual/x100vi/connections/usage_usb/#gsc.tab=0. The top part talks about Android phones but it should work with iPhone 15 series/iPad Pro as well since the series supports OTG via usb-c.---------------------------------------------
UPDATE: Found the section on X100VI's manual for connecting directly to phone/iPad using USB-C. https://fujifilm-dsc.com/en/manual/x100vi/connections/usage_usb/#gsc.tab=0. The top part talks about Android phones but it should work with iPhone 15 series/iPad Pro as well since the series supports OTG via usb-c.Yes - you're right - but you have to use the Apple Photos app - the camera won't show up as an external drive in the Files appJust tested this, and yes, it acts just as if you are using an SD card dongle. The VI immediately switches to USB mode and the transfer of full size jpeg files is nearly instant compared to the wireless via the app. No more dongle, horray! Thanks for posting this, both of you.Phew! That is great to hear! Thank you. Oh! . So, it does not show up as external storage in Files then...ugh!
nepali wrote:
RoamingScott wrote
Note that it uses the Photos app “import” panel, not Files.nepali wrote
RoamingScott wrote
nepali wrote
AZ Photo wrote
I don't think so - there doesn't seem to be the equivalent of the MacOS Image Capture utility under iPadOSUPDATE: Found the section on X100VI's manual for connecting directly to phone/iPad using USB-C. https://fujifilm-dsc.com/en/manual/x100vi/connections/usage_usb/#gsc.tab=0. The top part talks about Android phones but it should work with iPhone 15 series/iPad Pro as well since the series supports OTG via usb-c.
AZ Photo wrote
nepali wrote
So, when you connect it via usb-c, does it not show up in Files app to browse, copy, move, etc. as an external storage? With my A7CR, if I have to edit on the go, I just connect it to my phone (iPhone 15 Pro Max) via usb-c and the camera shows up as external storage in Files. I then copy photos I want to edit and open them up in Lightroom Mobile. I am hoping X100VI works the same way. It also comes in handy to backup photos to cloud while on the go.UPDATE: Found the section on X100VI's manual for connecting directly to phone/iPad using USB-C. https://fujifilm-dsc.com/en/manual/x100vi/connections/usage_usb/#gsc.tab=0. The top part talks about Android phones but it should work with iPhone 15 series/iPad Pro as well since the series supports OTG via usb-c.
. So, it does not show up as external storage in Files then...ugh!Mar 03, 2024 at 01:05 PM
p.5 #7X100VI first impressions + running commentary
RoamingScott wrote:
I played with a large focus area, AF-C, and eye detect using the EVF/LCD today while out to lunch, something I haven't done on any 5th gen Fuji yet and...eh, it's fine. Lots of jumping from one eye to another erratically (i'm sure picking left or right eye would fix that but there's no guarantee that's the "close" eye). Better than nothing, but considerably worse than other brands I've used.
If I tried to just let auto AF find something that wasn't a human, it tended to focus on the closest part of the thing in the middle of the frame...Show more →
I'm most curious about eye-AF focusing so thanks for this. When using the large focus area AF-C and subject recognition/eye detect turned on does the camera hesitate a bit when you turn your camera from landscape to portrait orientation and vice-versa? My Sony A6700 (and 15/1.4G) is fast but when I change the orientation I have to tap the screen to get the focus back to the eye or green square if I am far from the subject.
I played with a large focus area, AF-C, and eye detect using the EVF/LCD today while out to lunch, something I haven't done on any 5th gen Fuji yet and...eh, it's fine. Lots of jumping from one eye to another erratically (i'm sure picking left or right eye would fix that but there's no guarantee that's the "close" eye). Better than nothing, but considerably worse than other brands I've used.
If I tried to just let auto AF find something that wasn't a human, it tended to focus on the closest part of the thing in the middle of the frame...Show more →
I'm most curious about eye-AF focusing so thanks for this. When using the large focus area AF-C and subject recognition/eye detect turned on does the camera hesitate a bit when you turn your camera from landscape to portrait orientation and vice-versa? My Sony A6700 (and 15/1.4G) is fast but when I change the orientation I have to tap the screen to get the focus back to the eye or green square if I am far from the subject.
Mar 03, 2024 at 01:14 PM
p.5 #8X100VI first impressions + running commentary
jojib wrote:
I'm most curious about eye-AF focusing so thanks for this. When using the large focus area AF-C and subject recognition/eye detect turned on does the camera hesitate a bit when you turn your camera from landscape to portrait orientation and vice-versa? My Sony A6700 (and 15/1.4G) is fast but when I change the orientation I have to tap the screen to get the focus back to the eye or green square if I am far from the subject.
I just tested this on my VI. The eye AF appears to be very fast and responsive, and does seem to work instantly even when rotating between portrait and landscape orientation.
I have been testing my VI the past hour or so and have been overall really impressed. It seems like a significant improvement over what I remember of the X100F when I had it. It's really snappy in use, the AF seems solid, and the IBIS lets me shoot at 1/8 sec pretty reliably. Slower shutter speeds are not as reliable and require more careful handholding technique, but I have been able to get a decently sharp shot (at least from what I see in the viewfinder) as low as 1 second with careful technique and breathing.
I have already decided that the X100VI is not going back, or being sold, even if I end up loving the A7CII. I will just keep both if that happens.
Lots of money, but I'm heading toward 60 and lived a mostly frugal life so... eh. :-P
I'm most curious about eye-AF focusing so thanks for this. When using the large focus area AF-C and subject recognition/eye detect turned on does the camera hesitate a bit when you turn your camera from landscape to portrait orientation and vice-versa? My Sony A6700 (and 15/1.4G) is fast but when I change the orientation I have to tap the screen to get the focus back to the eye or green square if I am far from the subject.
I just tested this on my VI. The eye AF appears to be very fast and responsive, and does seem to work instantly even when rotating between portrait and landscape orientation.
I have been testing my VI the past hour or so and have been overall really impressed. It seems like a significant improvement over what I remember of the X100F when I had it. It's really snappy in use, the AF seems solid, and the IBIS lets me shoot at 1/8 sec pretty reliably. Slower shutter speeds are not as reliable and require more careful handholding technique, but I have been able to get a decently sharp shot (at least from what I see in the viewfinder) as low as 1 second with careful technique and breathing.
I have already decided that the X100VI is not going back, or being sold, even if I end up loving the A7CII. I will just keep both if that happens.
Lots of money, but I'm heading toward 60 and lived a mostly frugal life so... eh. :-P
Mar 03, 2024 at 03:05 PM
p.5 #9X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Tapper wrote:
I just tested this on my VI. The eye AF appears to be very fast and responsive, and does seem to work instantly even when rotating between portrait and landscape orientation.
I have been testing my VI the past hour or so and have been overall really impressed. It seems like a significant improvement over what I remember of the X100F when I had it. It's really snappy in use, the AF seems solid, and the IBIS lets me shoot at 1/8 sec pretty reliably. Slower shutter speeds are not as reliable and require more careful handholding technique, but I have...Show more →
Thanks for your feedback Tapper on both eye-AF and IBIS.
I’m a decade ahead of you :-) Eventually most of us will transition to a smaller camera. I’m a proud avid tennis player too that thinks I can still cover the court like a carpet. But willing to try out pickle ball soon.
jojib wrote
I'm most curious about eye-AF focusing so thanks for this. When using the large focus area AF-C and subject recognition/eye detect turned on does the camera hesitate a bit when you turn your camera from landscape to portrait orientation and vice-versa? My Sony A6700 (and 15/1.4G) is fast but when I change the orientation I have to tap the screen to get the focus back to the eye or green square if I am far from the subject.I have been testing my VI the past hour or so and have been overall really impressed. It seems like a significant improvement over what I remember of the X100F when I had it. It's really snappy in use, the AF seems solid, and the IBIS lets me shoot at 1/8 sec pretty reliably. Slower shutter speeds are not as reliable and require more careful handholding technique, but I have...Show more →
Thanks for your feedback Tapper on both eye-AF and IBIS.
I’m a decade ahead of you :-) Eventually most of us will transition to a smaller camera. I’m a proud avid tennis player too that thinks I can still cover the court like a carpet. But willing to try out pickle ball soon.
Mar 03, 2024 at 03:27 PM
p.5 #10X100VI first impressions + running commentary
OK, after a very brief initial test of the A7CII albeit with a crappy old NEX lens (16mm f2.8)...
I think I prefer the X100VI.
It's just more fun, and that leaf shutter is near silent compared to the A7CII's loud clack (unless you use electronic shutter but that has other drawbacks). Also, the built-in 4 stop ND filter and decent little fill flash are super convenient. I also find the AF to be... dare I say it... very good. Certainly good enough for my intended use case. The color straight of camera is just so good, and as for image quality - looks great to me. As someone wanting a quality compact prime lens camera, I think I found what I want.
Having said that, the A7CII is very impressive. I just don't think it's my preference right now, and for what I currently want, it's overkill for me. The Fuji does what I want, and very well, and looks nice doing it. But no doubt about it - these newer Sony's are also very nice.
I think I prefer the X100VI.
It's just more fun, and that leaf shutter is near silent compared to the A7CII's loud clack (unless you use electronic shutter but that has other drawbacks). Also, the built-in 4 stop ND filter and decent little fill flash are super convenient. I also find the AF to be... dare I say it... very good. Certainly good enough for my intended use case. The color straight of camera is just so good, and as for image quality - looks great to me. As someone wanting a quality compact prime lens camera, I think I found what I want.
Having said that, the A7CII is very impressive. I just don't think it's my preference right now, and for what I currently want, it's overkill for me. The Fuji does what I want, and very well, and looks nice doing it. But no doubt about it - these newer Sony's are also very nice.
Mar 03, 2024 at 04:26 PM
p.5 #11X100VI first impressions + running commentary
RoamingScott wrote:
What is the difference in practice? You can always move photos to Files later.
UPDATE: Found the section on X100VI's manual for connecting directly to phone/iPad using USB-C. https://fujifilm-dsc.com/en/manual/x100vi/connections/usage_usb/#gsc.tab=0. The top part talks about Android phones but it should work with iPhone 15 series/iPad Pro as well since the series supports OTG via usb-c.---------------------------------------------
Just tested this, and yes, it acts just as if you are using an SD card dongle. The VI immediately switches to USB mode and the transfer of full size jpeg files is nearly instant compared to the wireless via the app. No more dongle, horray! Thanks for posting this, both of you.Phew! That is great to hear! Thank you. Oh! . So, it does not show up as external storage in Files then...ugh!
Not the RAW files. Importing to Photos would be for JPGs.
What is the difference in practice? You can always move photos to Files later.
nepali wrote
RoamingScott wrote
Note that it uses the Photos app “import” panel, not Files.nepali wrote
RoamingScott wrote
nepali wrote
So, when you connect it via usb-c, does it not show up in Files app to browse, copy, move, etc. as an external storage? With my A7CR, if I have to edit on the go, I just connect it to my phone (iPhone 15 Pro Max) via usb-c and the camera shows up as external storage in Files. I then copy photos I want to edit and open them up in Lightroom Mobile. I am hoping X100VI works the same way. It also comes in handy to backup photos to cloud while on the go.UPDATE: Found the section on X100VI's manual for connecting directly to phone/iPad using USB-C. https://fujifilm-dsc.com/en/manual/x100vi/connections/usage_usb/#gsc.tab=0. The top part talks about Android phones but it should work with iPhone 15 series/iPad Pro as well since the series supports OTG via usb-c.
AZ Photo wrote
Yes - you're right - but you have to use the Apple Photos app - the camera won't show up as an external drive in the Files app. So, it does not show up as external storage in Files then...ugh!Not the RAW files. Importing to Photos would be for JPGs.
Mar 03, 2024 at 05:12 PM
p.5 #12X100VI first impressions + running commentary
nepali wrote:
Just tested this, and yes, it acts just as if you are using an SD card dongle. The VI immediately switches to USB mode and the transfer of full size jpeg files is nearly instant compared to the wireless via the app. No more dongle, horray! Thanks for posting this, both of you.Phew! That is great to hear! Thank you. Oh! . So, it does not show up as external storage in Files then...ugh!Not the RAW files. Importing to Photos would be for JPGs.
Import to Photos supports both JPEG and RAW over usb-c...oddly you can see the thumbnail of the X100VI raw when importing in Photos but not in the gallery.
LR can open the raw and display it fine once imported, but again, WHILE importing, black thumbnail. I've seen this quite a bit with iOS and raw files.
RoamingScott wrote
What is the difference in practice? You can always move photos to Files later.nepali wrote
RoamingScott wrote
Note that it uses the Photos app “import” panel, not Files.nepali wrote
RoamingScott wrote
---------------------------------------------Just tested this, and yes, it acts just as if you are using an SD card dongle. The VI immediately switches to USB mode and the transfer of full size jpeg files is nearly instant compared to the wireless via the app. No more dongle, horray! Thanks for posting this, both of you.
. So, it does not show up as external storage in Files then...ugh!Import to Photos supports both JPEG and RAW over usb-c...oddly you can see the thumbnail of the X100VI raw when importing in Photos but not in the gallery.
LR can open the raw and display it fine once imported, but again, WHILE importing, black thumbnail. I've seen this quite a bit with iOS and raw files.
Mar 03, 2024 at 05:21 PM
p.5 #13X100VI first impressions + running commentary
RoamingScott wrote:
Oh! . So, it does not show up as external storage in Files then...ugh!Not the RAW files. Importing to Photos would be for JPGs.Import to Photos supports both JPEG and RAW over usb-c...oddly you can see the thumbnail of the X100VI raw when importing in Photos but not in the gallery.
LR can open the raw and display it fine once imported, but again, WHILE importing, black thumbnail. I've seen this quite a bit with iOS and raw files.
So the files imported to Photos are still RAW files? If you don't mind, could you import a RAW file to Photos and then export it to Files, and confirm that when exported to Files, it is still RAW (RAF file)?
nepali wrote
RoamingScott wrote
What is the difference in practice? You can always move photos to Files later.nepali wrote
RoamingScott wrote
Note that it uses the Photos app “import” panel, not Files.nepali wrote
Phew! That is great to hear! Thank you.. So, it does not show up as external storage in Files then...ugh!LR can open the raw and display it fine once imported, but again, WHILE importing, black thumbnail. I've seen this quite a bit with iOS and raw files.
So the files imported to Photos are still RAW files? If you don't mind, could you import a RAW file to Photos and then export it to Files, and confirm that when exported to Files, it is still RAW (RAF file)?
Mar 03, 2024 at 05:40 PM
p.5 #14X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Yep, all 90mb of uncompressed goodness makes it to iCloud!
nepali wrote:
Oh! . So, it does not show up as external storage in Files then...ugh!Not the RAW files. Importing to Photos would be for JPGs.Import to Photos supports both JPEG and RAW over usb-c...oddly you can see the thumbnail of the X100VI raw when importing in Photos but not in the gallery.
LR can open the raw and display it fine once imported, but again, WHILE importing, black thumbnail. I've seen this quite a bit with iOS and raw files.So the files imported to Photos are still RAW files? If you don't mind, could you import a RAW file to Photos and then export it to Files, and confirm that when exported to Files, it is still RAW (RAF file)?
nepali wrote:
RoamingScott wrote
nepali wrote
RoamingScott wrote
What is the difference in practice? You can always move photos to Files later.nepali wrote
RoamingScott wrote
Note that it uses the Photos app “import” panel, not Files.. So, it does not show up as external storage in Files then...ugh!LR can open the raw and display it fine once imported, but again, WHILE importing, black thumbnail. I've seen this quite a bit with iOS and raw files.
Mar 03, 2024 at 05:52 PM
p.5 #15X100VI first impressions + running commentary
RoamingScott wrote:
Yep, all 90mb of uncompressed goodness makes it to iCloud!
. So, it does not show up as external storage in Files then...ugh!Not the RAW files. Importing to Photos would be for JPGs.Import to Photos supports both JPEG and RAW over usb-c...oddly you can see the thumbnail of the X100VI raw when importing in Photos but not in the gallery.
LR can open the raw and display it fine once imported, but again, WHILE importing, black thumbnail. I've seen this quite a bit with iOS and raw files.So the files imported to Photos are still RAW files? If you don't mind, could you import a RAW file to Photos and then export it to Files, and confirm that when exported to Files, it is still RAW (RAF file)?
Nice! Thank you!
Yep, all 90mb of uncompressed goodness makes it to iCloud!
nepali wrote
RoamingScott wrote
nepali wrote
RoamingScott wrote
What is the difference in practice? You can always move photos to Files later.nepali wrote
Oh!. So, it does not show up as external storage in Files then...ugh!LR can open the raw and display it fine once imported, but again, WHILE importing, black thumbnail. I've seen this quite a bit with iOS and raw files.
Nice! Thank you!
Mar 03, 2024 at 06:04 PM
p.5 #16X100VI first impressions + running commentary
You can also import the files to iOS Lightroom, or just transfer them to your iPad (and then to iCloud) and edit in Photoshop for iOS.
It is a little kludgy compared to doing this stuff on a laptop, but it works... and it gets easier once you play with it a bit.
It is a little kludgy compared to doing this stuff on a laptop, but it works... and it gets easier once you play with it a bit.
Mar 03, 2024 at 11:08 PM
p.5 #17X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Unfortunate about the apparent (slight) drop in build/assembly quality on the move to China, but not surprised.
I personally find the VI much more attractive than the V based on the updated AF, increased MP, and added IBIS. All things that coupled with the fixed lens bothered me ever so slightly on the V. I was mostly OK with the AF/MP/no IBIS on the XE4 because... well, it was smaller and cheaper, and gave you lens options. All things being equal, XE5 with the new sensor, new AF, and IBIS, would be really dang nice in my book. I am drooling over the X100VI though!
I personally find the VI much more attractive than the V based on the updated AF, increased MP, and added IBIS. All things that coupled with the fixed lens bothered me ever so slightly on the V. I was mostly OK with the AF/MP/no IBIS on the XE4 because... well, it was smaller and cheaper, and gave you lens options. All things being equal, XE5 with the new sensor, new AF, and IBIS, would be really dang nice in my book. I am drooling over the X100VI though!
Mar 04, 2024 at 12:29 AM
p.5 #18X100VI first impressions + running commentary
ISO1600 wrote:
Unfortunate about the apparent (slight) drop in build/assembly quality on the move to China, but not surprised.
I personally find the VI much more attractive than the V based on the updated AF, increased MP, and added IBIS. All things that coupled with the fixed lens bothered me ever so slightly on the V. I was mostly OK with the AF/MP/no IBIS on the XE4 because... well, it was smaller and cheaper, and gave you lens options. All things being equal, XE5 with the new sensor, new AF, and IBIS, would be really dang nice in my book. I am drooling...Show more →
Might just be sample variation. My VI is flawless and feels just as well built as my old F, other than the always-unsettling unparked IBIS when off, but that is a consistent Fuji design choice.
Unfortunate about the apparent (slight) drop in build/assembly quality on the move to China, but not surprised.
I personally find the VI much more attractive than the V based on the updated AF, increased MP, and added IBIS. All things that coupled with the fixed lens bothered me ever so slightly on the V. I was mostly OK with the AF/MP/no IBIS on the XE4 because... well, it was smaller and cheaper, and gave you lens options. All things being equal, XE5 with the new sensor, new AF, and IBIS, would be really dang nice in my book. I am drooling...Show more →
Might just be sample variation. My VI is flawless and feels just as well built as my old F, other than the always-unsettling unparked IBIS when off, but that is a consistent Fuji design choice.
Mar 04, 2024 at 06:29 AM
p.5 #19X100VI first impressions + running commentary
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Mar 04, 2024 at 08:27 AM
p.5 #20X100VI first impressions + running commentary
ISO1600 wrote:
Unfortunate about the apparent (slight) drop in build/assembly quality on the move to China, but not surprised.
I personally find the VI much more attractive than the V based on the updated AF, increased MP, and added IBIS. All things that coupled with the fixed lens bothered me ever so slightly on the V. I was mostly OK with the AF/MP/no IBIS on the XE4 because... well, it was smaller and cheaper, and gave you lens options. All things being equal, XE5 with the new sensor, new AF, and IBIS, would be really dang nice in my book. I am drooling...Show more →
We need to be a bit cautious about connecting a few reports of issues in the initial batch to it being manufactured in China. Any first batch product will end up with a few units with issues, so we need to wait to see if that is a trend or just the normal thing before going with the preconceptions about Chinese manufacturers.
Unfortunate about the apparent (slight) drop in build/assembly quality on the move to China, but not surprised.
I personally find the VI much more attractive than the V based on the updated AF, increased MP, and added IBIS. All things that coupled with the fixed lens bothered me ever so slightly on the V. I was mostly OK with the AF/MP/no IBIS on the XE4 because... well, it was smaller and cheaper, and gave you lens options. All things being equal, XE5 with the new sensor, new AF, and IBIS, would be really dang nice in my book. I am drooling...Show more →
We need to be a bit cautious about connecting a few reports of issues in the initial batch to it being manufactured in China. Any first batch product will end up with a few units with issues, so we need to wait to see if that is a trend or just the normal thing before going with the preconceptions about Chinese manufacturers.
Mar 04, 2024 at 08:56 AM