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p.15 #1X100VI first impressions + running commentary
ISO1600 wrote:
Had I been on a wait-list, I would've cancelled by now.
That would have been a win-win situation. It would help the next persons in line to get their cameras sooner.
For its typical use, street photography and lifestyle photography, the output from the X100VI is remarkable.
Had I been on a wait-list, I would've cancelled by now.
That would have been a win-win situation. It would help the next persons in line to get their cameras sooner.
For its typical use, street photography and lifestyle photography, the output from the X100VI is remarkable.
Mar 15, 2024 at 09:21 AM
p.15 #2X100VI first impressions + running commentary
JohnDizzo15 wrote:
The hype about this camera has been… remarkable.
It still is as good of a camera as it was, but I suspect that time (as it always does) is leading some to think of it less as The One Perfect Camera To Rule All Cameras and more as another Fujifilm camera with a particular interface and features.Agreed. It is definitely not, and never was, the one perfect camera. I just know I miss having one from time to time. lol
BH originally quoted me a ship date of 2/28, and then showed delayed when that date arrived. I took that as a sign from the heavens that I might as well wait out the user reviews, since it was unclear when I would actually get one. Canceled that same day.
If you need what it does, it is a really wonderful camera from all reports, as the X100 series has been from the get-go. For the folks who fit that pattern, it is an excellent camera. (With, like all cameras, a few downsides to balance out its upsides.)
But I think that the response to it has, in some cases, gone beyond the rational. It has become an object of irrational desire for quite a few. And having to wait tends to take the bloom off of that rose a bit.
Fujifilm will still sell a ton of them. It is a good camera. But I suspect that quite a few buyers will discover that they really wish they had a zoom lens or interchangeable lenses, etc.
YMMV>
gdanmitchell wrote
ISO1600 wrote
Had I been on a wait-list, I would've cancelled by now.It still is as good of a camera as it was, but I suspect that time (as it always does) is leading some to think of it less as The One Perfect Camera To Rule All Cameras and more as another Fujifilm camera with a particular interface and features.
BH originally quoted me a ship date of 2/28, and then showed delayed when that date arrived. I took that as a sign from the heavens that I might as well wait out the user reviews, since it was unclear when I would actually get one. Canceled that same day.
If you need what it does, it is a really wonderful camera from all reports, as the X100 series has been from the get-go. For the folks who fit that pattern, it is an excellent camera. (With, like all cameras, a few downsides to balance out its upsides.)
But I think that the response to it has, in some cases, gone beyond the rational. It has become an object of irrational desire for quite a few. And having to wait tends to take the bloom off of that rose a bit.
Fujifilm will still sell a ton of them. It is a good camera. But I suspect that quite a few buyers will discover that they really wish they had a zoom lens or interchangeable lenses, etc.
YMMV>
Mar 15, 2024 at 09:24 AM
p.15 #3X100VI first impressions + running commentary
ISO1600 wrote:
More and more, as I look at these photos, I do *not* like the general rendering of this lens.
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ramesesthe2nd wrote:
The lens might not be the sharpest, but it probably helps with making FUJI's instagram filters (simulations) look more nostalgic and different from other camera brands.
It's VERY important to note that the X100 lens renders very much like a classic lens with almost Helios-type edges and some squiggles in the bokeh.
Here is the X100VI at f/2 and the Nikon 35/1.4 G at 2.8 for bokeh "equivalency"...these are two completely different types of rendering, but even so, the X100 holds its own in the center with detail and sharpness compared to a full frame with one of it its legendary primes attached.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53589074002_2820740233_o.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53590392665_653dc1debd_o.jpg
More and more, as I look at these photos, I do *not* like the general rendering of this lens.
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ramesesthe2nd wrote:
The lens might not be the sharpest, but it probably helps with making FUJI's instagram filters (simulations) look more nostalgic and different from other camera brands.
It's VERY important to note that the X100 lens renders very much like a classic lens with almost Helios-type edges and some squiggles in the bokeh.
Here is the X100VI at f/2 and the Nikon 35/1.4 G at 2.8 for bokeh "equivalency"...these are two completely different types of rendering, but even so, the X100 holds its own in the center with detail and sharpness compared to a full frame with one of it its legendary primes attached.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53589074002_2820740233_o.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53590392665_653dc1debd_o.jpg
Mar 15, 2024 at 03:37 PM
p.15 #4X100VI first impressions + running commentary
RoamingScott wrote:
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It's VERY important to note that the X100 lens renders very much like a classic lens with almost Helios-type edges and some squiggles in the bokeh.
Here is the X100VI at f/2 and the Nikon 35/1.4 G at 2.8 for bokeh "equivalency"...these are two completely different types of rendering, but even so, the X100 holds its own in the center with detail and sharpness compared to a full frame with one of it its legendary primes attached.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53589074002_2820740233_o.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53590392665_653dc1debd_o.jpg
That's one of the appealing aspects of the X100 series lens imo. It has a distinct personality in the OOF areas instead of the overly smooth appearance commonly seen in many modern lens brands, including the new Fujis.
I wonder if someone has compared the XF 23/2 lens to the X100 camera side by side, like you did above.
ISO1600 wrote
More and more, as I look at these photos, I do *not* like the general rendering of this lens.ramesesthe2nd wrote
The lens might not be the sharpest, but it probably helps with making FUJI's instagram filters (simulations) look more nostalgic and different from other camera brands.Here is the X100VI at f/2 and the Nikon 35/1.4 G at 2.8 for bokeh "equivalency"...these are two completely different types of rendering, but even so, the X100 holds its own in the center with detail and sharpness compared to a full frame with one of it its legendary primes attached.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53589074002_2820740233_o.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53590392665_653dc1debd_o.jpg
That's one of the appealing aspects of the X100 series lens imo. It has a distinct personality in the OOF areas instead of the overly smooth appearance commonly seen in many modern lens brands, including the new Fujis.
I wonder if someone has compared the XF 23/2 lens to the X100 camera side by side, like you did above.
Mar 15, 2024 at 04:19 PM
p.15 #5X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Fred Miranda wrote:
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It's VERY important to note that the X100 lens renders very much like a classic lens with almost Helios-type edges and some squiggles in the bokeh.
Here is the X100VI at f/2 and the Nikon 35/1.4 G at 2.8 for bokeh "equivalency"...these are two completely different types of rendering, but even so, the X100 holds its own in the center with detail and sharpness compared to a full frame with one of it its legendary primes attached.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53589074002_2820740233_o.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53590392665_653dc1debd_o.jpgI wonder if someone has compared the XF 23/2 lens to the X100 camera side by side, like you did above.
I'd be interested in seeing that, yes.
If nothing else, hopefully that shows that center sharpness is totally fine and that most sharpness complaints are likely slight misfocuses caused by AF-C pulsing behavior.
RoamingScott wrote
ISO1600 wrote
More and more, as I look at these photos, I do *not* like the general rendering of this lens.ramesesthe2nd wrote
The lens might not be the sharpest, but it probably helps with making FUJI's instagram filters (simulations) look more nostalgic and different from other camera brands.Here is the X100VI at f/2 and the Nikon 35/1.4 G at 2.8 for bokeh "equivalency"...these are two completely different types of rendering, but even so, the X100 holds its own in the center with detail and sharpness compared to a full frame with one of it its legendary primes attached.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53589074002_2820740233_o.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53590392665_653dc1debd_o.jpg
I'd be interested in seeing that, yes.
If nothing else, hopefully that shows that center sharpness is totally fine and that most sharpness complaints are likely slight misfocuses caused by AF-C pulsing behavior.
Mar 15, 2024 at 04:27 PM
p.15 #6X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Fred Miranda wrote:
Could you share what was the deal break for you?There really was not one thing. Kinda like death by a thousand paper cuts. I had always liked the look of these but never really considered them as an option for me till they added the 40mp sensor and IBIS. After some testing the last couple days I think the lens is acceptably sharp in the center and the sensor is pretty good. IBIS not bad either. I have been using RV and CR body's which have some of the best AF in the business. This camera is just not in the same league but to be fair it is priced well under both. So I probably had my expectations set too high. That said I don't want to be even thinking about AF in a fixed lens camera like this. Yet there I was constantly checking. I felt like I got too many false positives. Meaning green box showing focus (when it didn't disappear) and then punching in only to find it not really in focus but almost. I dove deep into the menu's and really tried to test everything I could. Surely it had to be on me. The best way I can describe it is it just is not as refined as my latest Sony's. The software is dare I say Glitchy in some cases. I just assumed in a version 6 camera it would be more sorted. I know I'll probably get roasted for saying that. But this is just my personal opinion. Is it possible to take nice images with it, sure. I have seen plenty and took a couple myself. I do like some of those film simulations. But in the end I just felt like it was fighting me in too many instances. That's not what I'm looking for in an EDC type of camera. But Hey with it being the best selling camera ever made what do I know. I wanted to like it. I really did.Personally, I really value opinions like yours. It's great that you were curious, gave it a try, but found it wasn't your cup of tea.
When it comes to the menu, I initially had a similar struggle with Fuji's extensive options. The multitude of choices can be overwhelming and confusing, especially with options like DR 200, DR 400, and D Range Priority. Understanding what these options do and how they affect the final image, particularly regarding RAW files (RAF), can be a bit tricky. It's definitely a learning curve, and I only grasped what's actually happening to the raw file...Show more →
Both of these are extremely fast and accurate with the 100VI for me, even when shooting with the BPM 1/4 filter:
– Single shot
– Single shot with eye-AF
Haven't tried continuous – I'd use a higher end camera for that.
The only time the VI has AF issues for me is at f/2 when 1) I choose the smallest single point box, which is often too small to find contrast in dim light, or 2) I choose an overly large single point box, which can focus on an unintended object inside it (because of course it can't know what you want to focus on inside the box).
I find the VI lens to be sharper at f/2 than the cheap Nikon 40 f/2 kit lens I had for my Zf. The VI eye-AF also gets the iris in focus 95% of the time at f/2 in single shot mode, something my Nikon Zf + 40 f/2 struggled with. The Nikon it seems was in love with eyebrows and eyelashes but not eyeballs. I feel like the VI even does a little better with eye-AF than the S5IIX with the Sigma I-series 35 f/2.
All anecdotal. I don't have all this gear to do side-by-side. But so far, I trust the VI for single shot eye-AF at f/2 as much as I did my Canon R5 with the tiny RF 50 f/1.8 lens.
nhsonyshooter wrote
Fred Miranda wrote
nhsonyshooter wrote
Well my Fuji experience has come to an end. I listed mine and with in about 4 minutes I got something like 8 people wanting to buy it. Demand is still their that is for sure. I don't think it is a bad camera. It's just not a good match for me. So off to find an Rx1rii. I know as soon as I buy one again there will be a rumor for a version iii. But I'm OK with that as I will be first in line.When it comes to the menu, I initially had a similar struggle with Fuji's extensive options. The multitude of choices can be overwhelming and confusing, especially with options like DR 200, DR 400, and D Range Priority. Understanding what these options do and how they affect the final image, particularly regarding RAW files (RAF), can be a bit tricky. It's definitely a learning curve, and I only grasped what's actually happening to the raw file...Show more →
Both of these are extremely fast and accurate with the 100VI for me, even when shooting with the BPM 1/4 filter:
– Single shot
– Single shot with eye-AF
Haven't tried continuous – I'd use a higher end camera for that.
The only time the VI has AF issues for me is at f/2 when 1) I choose the smallest single point box, which is often too small to find contrast in dim light, or 2) I choose an overly large single point box, which can focus on an unintended object inside it (because of course it can't know what you want to focus on inside the box).
I find the VI lens to be sharper at f/2 than the cheap Nikon 40 f/2 kit lens I had for my Zf. The VI eye-AF also gets the iris in focus 95% of the time at f/2 in single shot mode, something my Nikon Zf + 40 f/2 struggled with. The Nikon it seems was in love with eyebrows and eyelashes but not eyeballs. I feel like the VI even does a little better with eye-AF than the S5IIX with the Sigma I-series 35 f/2.
All anecdotal. I don't have all this gear to do side-by-side. But so far, I trust the VI for single shot eye-AF at f/2 as much as I did my Canon R5 with the tiny RF 50 f/1.8 lens.
Mar 15, 2024 at 08:14 PM
p.15 #7X100VI first impressions + running commentary
highdesertmesa wrote:
Could you share what was the deal break for you?There really was not one thing. Kinda like death by a thousand paper cuts. I had always liked the look of these but never really considered them as an option for me till they added the 40mp sensor and IBIS. After some testing the last couple days I think the lens is acceptably sharp in the center and the sensor is pretty good. IBIS not bad either. I have been using RV and CR body's which have some of the best AF in the business. This camera is just not in the same league but to be fair it is priced well under both. So I probably had my expectations set too high. That said I don't want to be even thinking about AF in a fixed lens camera like this. Yet there I was constantly checking. I felt like I got too many false positives. Meaning green box showing focus (when it didn't disappear) and then punching in only to find it not really in focus but almost. I dove deep into the menu's and really tried to test everything I could. Surely it had to be on me. The best way I can describe it is it just is not as refined as my latest Sony's. The software is dare I say Glitchy in some cases. I just assumed in a version 6 camera it would be more sorted. I know I'll probably get roasted for saying that. But this is just my personal opinion. Is it possible to take nice images with it, sure. I have seen plenty and took a couple myself. I do like some of those film simulations. But in the end I just felt like it was fighting me in too many instances. That's not what I'm looking for in an EDC type of camera. But Hey with it being the best selling camera ever made what do I know. I wanted to like it. I really did.Personally, I really value opinions like yours. It's great that you were curious, gave it a try, but found it wasn't your cup of tea.
When it comes to the menu, I initially had a similar struggle with Fuji's extensive options. The multitude of choices can be overwhelming and confusing, especially with options like DR 200, DR 400, and D Range Priority. Understanding what these options do and how they affect the final image, particularly regarding RAW files (RAF), can be a bit tricky. It's definitely a learning curve, and I only grasped what's actually happening to the raw file after spending some time experimenting with all the options. I stuck with it to learn the system so I could effectively review lenses for the X-mount system.
Over time, though, I became more comfortable with the settings and started enjoying the camera more, especially once I settled into a consistent setup that I rarely change. The Film Simulations feature really changed the way I approached shooting, and being able to do some pre-editing in-camera shifted my mindset towards getting the image right straight out of the camera, reminiscent of shooting film. That's one of the things I find most attractive about Fuji cameras right now.
You mentioned the autofocus sometimes being inaccurate on the X100VI, which would be frustrating, especially when you expect quick and accurate autofocus, particularly for tracking subjects. That's why, for me, if I'm using an AF camera, I really want it to perform well in that regard. Otherwise, I tend to stick with manual focus lenses. While I do own a few Fuji XF lenses and find their autofocus very good and accurate, perhaps the issue lies with the X100VI built-in lens, which may not be quick enough to keep up with the AF algorithm.
As for glitches, I haven't experienced any with my X-Pro3, but it's possible that I bought it with a firmware version that had already been thoroughly tested and refined. Considering experiences like yours with the X100VI, I'm leaning towards sticking with a Fuji with interchangeable lenses, allowing me to choose lenses that perform well in the AF department.Both of these are extremely fast and accurate with the 100VI for me, even when shooting with the BPM 1/4 filter:
– Single shot
– Single shot with eye-AF
Haven't tried continuous – I'd use a higher end camera for that.
The only time the VI has AF issues for me is at f/2 when 1) I choose the smallest single point box, which is often too small to find contrast in dim light, or 2) I choose an overly large single point box, which can focus on an unintended object inside it (because of course it can't know what you want to...Show more →
Thank you for your input. It's great to hear from someone who is familiar with other brands compared to the VI. Have you tested Eye-AF in continuous mode? I'm curious if you still encounter consistent results. Or perhaps you're already aware that the lens doesn't perform well with fast tracking?
Fred Miranda wrote
nhsonyshooter wrote
Fred Miranda wrote
nhsonyshooter wrote
Well my Fuji experience has come to an end. I listed mine and with in about 4 minutes I got something like 8 people wanting to buy it. Demand is still their that is for sure. I don't think it is a bad camera. It's just not a good match for me. So off to find an Rx1rii. I know as soon as I buy one again there will be a rumor for a version iii. But I'm OK with that as I will be first in line.When it comes to the menu, I initially had a similar struggle with Fuji's extensive options. The multitude of choices can be overwhelming and confusing, especially with options like DR 200, DR 400, and D Range Priority. Understanding what these options do and how they affect the final image, particularly regarding RAW files (RAF), can be a bit tricky. It's definitely a learning curve, and I only grasped what's actually happening to the raw file after spending some time experimenting with all the options. I stuck with it to learn the system so I could effectively review lenses for the X-mount system.
Over time, though, I became more comfortable with the settings and started enjoying the camera more, especially once I settled into a consistent setup that I rarely change. The Film Simulations feature really changed the way I approached shooting, and being able to do some pre-editing in-camera shifted my mindset towards getting the image right straight out of the camera, reminiscent of shooting film. That's one of the things I find most attractive about Fuji cameras right now.
You mentioned the autofocus sometimes being inaccurate on the X100VI, which would be frustrating, especially when you expect quick and accurate autofocus, particularly for tracking subjects. That's why, for me, if I'm using an AF camera, I really want it to perform well in that regard. Otherwise, I tend to stick with manual focus lenses. While I do own a few Fuji XF lenses and find their autofocus very good and accurate, perhaps the issue lies with the X100VI built-in lens, which may not be quick enough to keep up with the AF algorithm.
As for glitches, I haven't experienced any with my X-Pro3, but it's possible that I bought it with a firmware version that had already been thoroughly tested and refined. Considering experiences like yours with the X100VI, I'm leaning towards sticking with a Fuji with interchangeable lenses, allowing me to choose lenses that perform well in the AF department.
– Single shot
– Single shot with eye-AF
Haven't tried continuous – I'd use a higher end camera for that.
The only time the VI has AF issues for me is at f/2 when 1) I choose the smallest single point box, which is often too small to find contrast in dim light, or 2) I choose an overly large single point box, which can focus on an unintended object inside it (because of course it can't know what you want to...Show more →
Thank you for your input. It's great to hear from someone who is familiar with other brands compared to the VI. Have you tested Eye-AF in continuous mode? I'm curious if you still encounter consistent results. Or perhaps you're already aware that the lens doesn't perform well with fast tracking?
Mar 15, 2024 at 08:28 PM
p.15 #8X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Fred Miranda wrote:
Could you share what was the deal break for you?There really was not one thing. Kinda like death by a thousand paper cuts. I had always liked the look of these but never really considered them as an option for me till they added the 40mp sensor and IBIS. After some testing the last couple days I think the lens is acceptably sharp in the center and the sensor is pretty good. IBIS not bad either. I have been using RV and CR body's which have some of the best AF in the business. This camera is just not in the same league but to be fair it is priced well under both. So I probably had my expectations set too high. That said I don't want to be even thinking about AF in a fixed lens camera like this. Yet there I was constantly checking. I felt like I got too many false positives. Meaning green box showing focus (when it didn't disappear) and then punching in only to find it not really in focus but almost. I dove deep into the menu's and really tried to test everything I could. Surely it had to be on me. The best way I can describe it is it just is not as refined as my latest Sony's. The software is dare I say Glitchy in some cases. I just assumed in a version 6 camera it would be more sorted. I know I'll probably get roasted for saying that. But this is just my personal opinion. Is it possible to take nice images with it, sure. I have seen plenty and took a couple myself. I do like some of those film simulations. But in the end I just felt like it was fighting me in too many instances. That's not what I'm looking for in an EDC type of camera. But Hey with it being the best selling camera ever made what do I know. I wanted to like it. I really did.Personally, I really value opinions like yours. It's great that you were curious, gave it a try, but found it wasn't your cup of tea.
When it comes to the menu, I initially had a similar struggle with Fuji's extensive options. The multitude of choices can be overwhelming and confusing, especially with options like DR 200, DR 400, and D Range Priority. Understanding what these options do and how they affect the final image, particularly regarding RAW files (RAF), can be a bit tricky. It's definitely a learning curve, and I only grasped what's actually happening to the raw file after spending some time experimenting with all the options. I stuck with it to learn the system so I could effectively review lenses for the X-mount system.
Over time, though, I became more comfortable with the settings and started enjoying the camera more, especially once I settled into a consistent setup that I rarely change. The Film Simulations feature really changed the way I approached shooting, and being able to do some pre-editing in-camera shifted my mindset towards getting the image right straight out of the camera, reminiscent of shooting film. That's one of the things I find most attractive about Fuji cameras right now.
You mentioned the autofocus sometimes being inaccurate on the X100VI, which would be frustrating, especially when you expect quick and accurate autofocus, particularly for tracking subjects. That's why, for me, if I'm using an AF camera, I really want it to perform well in that regard. Otherwise, I tend to stick with manual focus lenses. While I do own a few Fuji XF lenses and find their autofocus very good and accurate, perhaps the issue lies with the X100VI built-in lens, which may not be quick enough to keep up with the AF algorithm.
As for glitches, I haven't experienced any with my X-Pro3, but it's possible that I bought it with a firmware version that had already been thoroughly tested and refined. Considering experiences like yours with the X100VI, I'm leaning towards sticking with a Fuji with interchangeable lenses, allowing me to choose lenses that perform well in the AF department.Both of these are extremely fast and accurate with the 100VI for me, even when shooting with the BPM 1/4 filter:
– Single shot
– Single shot with eye-AF
Haven't tried continuous – I'd use a higher end camera for that.
The only time the VI has AF issues for me is at f/2 when 1) I choose the smallest single point box, which is often too small to find contrast in dim light, or 2) I choose an overly large single point box, which can focus on an unintended object inside it (because of course it can't know what you want to focus on inside the box).
I find the VI lens to be sharper at f/2 than the cheap Nikon 40 f/2 kit lens I had for my Zf. The VI eye-AF also gets the iris in focus 95% of the time at f/2 in single shot mode, something my Nikon Zf + 40 f/2 struggled with. The Nikon it seems was in love with eyebrows and eyelashes but not eyeballs. I feel like the VI even does a little better with eye-AF than the S5IIX with the Sigma I-series 35 f/2.
All anecdotal. I don't have all this gear to do side-by-side. But so far, I trust the VI for single shot eye-AF at f/2 as much as I did my Canon R5 with the tiny RF 50 f/1.8 lens.Thank you for your input. It's great to hear from someone who is familiar with other brands compared to the VI. Have you tested Eye-AF in continuous mode? I'm curious if you still encounter consistent results. Or perhaps you're already aware that the lens doesn't perform well with fast tracking?
I haven't tried tracking yet. I'm hoping it may it work well for portraits where the subject is moving around slightly or for use without eye-AF as a focus-recompose tool.
Two shots from earlier this week just for fun:
f/2 -|- Black Pro-Mist 1/4 -|- Acros & Acros +R
Edited on Mar 15, 2024 at 09:14 PM · View previous versions
highdesertmesa wrote
Fred Miranda wrote
nhsonyshooter wrote
Fred Miranda wrote
nhsonyshooter wrote
Well my Fuji experience has come to an end. I listed mine and with in about 4 minutes I got something like 8 people wanting to buy it. Demand is still their that is for sure. I don't think it is a bad camera. It's just not a good match for me. So off to find an Rx1rii. I know as soon as I buy one again there will be a rumor for a version iii. But I'm OK with that as I will be first in line.When it comes to the menu, I initially had a similar struggle with Fuji's extensive options. The multitude of choices can be overwhelming and confusing, especially with options like DR 200, DR 400, and D Range Priority. Understanding what these options do and how they affect the final image, particularly regarding RAW files (RAF), can be a bit tricky. It's definitely a learning curve, and I only grasped what's actually happening to the raw file after spending some time experimenting with all the options. I stuck with it to learn the system so I could effectively review lenses for the X-mount system.
Over time, though, I became more comfortable with the settings and started enjoying the camera more, especially once I settled into a consistent setup that I rarely change. The Film Simulations feature really changed the way I approached shooting, and being able to do some pre-editing in-camera shifted my mindset towards getting the image right straight out of the camera, reminiscent of shooting film. That's one of the things I find most attractive about Fuji cameras right now.
You mentioned the autofocus sometimes being inaccurate on the X100VI, which would be frustrating, especially when you expect quick and accurate autofocus, particularly for tracking subjects. That's why, for me, if I'm using an AF camera, I really want it to perform well in that regard. Otherwise, I tend to stick with manual focus lenses. While I do own a few Fuji XF lenses and find their autofocus very good and accurate, perhaps the issue lies with the X100VI built-in lens, which may not be quick enough to keep up with the AF algorithm.
As for glitches, I haven't experienced any with my X-Pro3, but it's possible that I bought it with a firmware version that had already been thoroughly tested and refined. Considering experiences like yours with the X100VI, I'm leaning towards sticking with a Fuji with interchangeable lenses, allowing me to choose lenses that perform well in the AF department.
– Single shot
– Single shot with eye-AF
Haven't tried continuous – I'd use a higher end camera for that.
The only time the VI has AF issues for me is at f/2 when 1) I choose the smallest single point box, which is often too small to find contrast in dim light, or 2) I choose an overly large single point box, which can focus on an unintended object inside it (because of course it can't know what you want to focus on inside the box).
I find the VI lens to be sharper at f/2 than the cheap Nikon 40 f/2 kit lens I had for my Zf. The VI eye-AF also gets the iris in focus 95% of the time at f/2 in single shot mode, something my Nikon Zf + 40 f/2 struggled with. The Nikon it seems was in love with eyebrows and eyelashes but not eyeballs. I feel like the VI even does a little better with eye-AF than the S5IIX with the Sigma I-series 35 f/2.
All anecdotal. I don't have all this gear to do side-by-side. But so far, I trust the VI for single shot eye-AF at f/2 as much as I did my Canon R5 with the tiny RF 50 f/1.8 lens.
I haven't tried tracking yet. I'm hoping it may it work well for portraits where the subject is moving around slightly or for use without eye-AF as a focus-recompose tool.
Two shots from earlier this week just for fun:
f/2 -|- Black Pro-Mist 1/4 -|- Acros & Acros +R
Edited on Mar 15, 2024 at 09:14 PM · View previous versions
Mar 15, 2024 at 09:13 PM
p.15 #9X100VI first impressions + running commentary
So, I'm taking a vacation to London and Paris in May and was wanting to get a new camera, my X10 is noticeably slow (even though I love the size) and I want the bigger sensor and all the improvements especially the BT connectivity to my phone! Of course, the X100VI was my first choice but back orders would make it nearly impossible to get one in time. I was in my local Navy Exchange yesterday picking up some stuff and decided to swing by the camera department because I know they sell Fuji cameras and low and behold sitting in the shelf amongst the XT5's and GFX's was a beautiful X100VI. So happy to not have to fuss and stress about getting one, and I love it! Now I have my dream camera for my trip and there's plenty of time to learn about it! I better get busy!
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Mar 15, 2024 at 09:14 PM
p.15 #10X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Post any questions if you have them, congrats on finding one so easily!
oldsaltydog wrote:
So, I'm taking a vacation to London and Paris in May and was wanting to get a new camera, my X10 is noticeably slow (even though I love the size) and I want the bigger sensor and all the improvements especially the BT connectivity to my phone! Of course, the X100VI was my first choice but back orders would make it nearly impossible to get one in time. I was in my local Navy Exchange yesterday picking up some stuff and decided to swing by the camera department because I know they sell Fuji cameras and low and behold sitting...Show more →
oldsaltydog wrote:
So, I'm taking a vacation to London and Paris in May and was wanting to get a new camera, my X10 is noticeably slow (even though I love the size) and I want the bigger sensor and all the improvements especially the BT connectivity to my phone! Of course, the X100VI was my first choice but back orders would make it nearly impossible to get one in time. I was in my local Navy Exchange yesterday picking up some stuff and decided to swing by the camera department because I know they sell Fuji cameras and low and behold sitting...Show more →
Mar 15, 2024 at 09:28 PM
p.15 #11X100VI first impressions + running commentary
I feel like I won the lottery it was so easy! I stood there reading the box for a minute, then had the sales guy open the box for me to read the body! Just couldn't be happier...except for that camera menu! aarrgh!
Mar 15, 2024 at 10:04 PM
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p.15 #12X100VI first impressions + running commentary
highdesertmesa wrote:
There really was not one thing. Kinda like death by a thousand paper cuts. I had always liked the look of these but never really considered them as an option for me till they added the 40mp sensor and IBIS. After some testing the last couple days I think the lens is acceptably sharp in the center and the sensor is pretty good. IBIS not bad either. I have been using RV and CR body's which have some of the best AF in the business. This camera is just not in the same league but to be fair it is priced well under both. So I probably had my expectations set too high. That said I don't want to be even thinking about AF in a fixed lens camera like this. Yet there I was constantly checking. I felt like I got too many false positives. Meaning green box showing focus (when it didn't disappear) and then punching in only to find it not really in focus but almost. I dove deep into the menu's and really tried to test everything I could. Surely it had to be on me. The best way I can describe it is it just is not as refined as my latest Sony's. The software is dare I say Glitchy in some cases. I just assumed in a version 6 camera it would be more sorted. I know I'll probably get roasted for saying that. But this is just my personal opinion. Is it possible to take nice images with it, sure. I have seen plenty and took a couple myself. I do like some of those film simulations. But in the end I just felt like it was fighting me in too many instances. That's not what I'm looking for in an EDC type of camera. But Hey with it being the best selling camera ever made what do I know. I wanted to like it. I really did.Personally, I really value opinions like yours. It's great that you were curious, gave it a try, but found it wasn't your cup of tea.
When it comes to the menu, I initially had a similar struggle with Fuji's extensive options. The multitude of choices can be overwhelming and confusing, especially with options like DR 200, DR 400, and D Range Priority. Understanding what these options do and how they affect the final image, particularly regarding RAW files (RAF), can be a bit tricky. It's definitely a learning curve, and I only grasped what's actually happening to the raw file after spending some time experimenting with all the options. I stuck with it to learn the system so I could effectively review lenses for the X-mount system.
Over time, though, I became more comfortable with the settings and started enjoying the camera more, especially once I settled into a consistent setup that I rarely change. The Film Simulations feature really changed the way I approached shooting, and being able to do some pre-editing in-camera shifted my mindset towards getting the image right straight out of the camera, reminiscent of shooting film. That's one of the things I find most attractive about Fuji cameras right now.
You mentioned the autofocus sometimes being inaccurate on the X100VI, which would be frustrating, especially when you expect quick and accurate autofocus, particularly for tracking subjects. That's why, for me, if I'm using an AF camera, I really want it to perform well in that regard. Otherwise, I tend to stick with manual focus lenses. While I do own a few Fuji XF lenses and find their autofocus very good and accurate, perhaps the issue lies with the X100VI built-in lens, which may not be quick enough to keep up with the AF algorithm.
As for glitches, I haven't experienced any with my X-Pro3, but it's possible that I bought it with a firmware version that had already been thoroughly tested and refined. Considering experiences like yours with the X100VI, I'm leaning towards sticking with a Fuji with interchangeable lenses, allowing me to choose lenses that perform well in the AF department.Both of these are extremely fast and accurate with the 100VI for me, even when shooting with the BPM 1/4 filter:
– Single shot
– Single shot with eye-AF
Haven't tried continuous – I'd use a higher end camera for that.
The only time the VI has AF issues for me is at f/2 when 1) I choose the smallest single point box, which is often too small to find contrast in dim light, or 2) I choose an overly large single point box, which can focus on an unintended object inside it (because of course it can't know what you want to focus on inside the box).
I find the VI lens to be sharper at f/2 than the cheap Nikon 40 f/2 kit lens I had for my Zf. The VI eye-AF also gets the iris in focus 95% of the time at f/2 in single shot mode, something my Nikon Zf + 40 f/2 struggled with. The Nikon it seems was in love with eyebrows and eyelashes but not eyeballs. I feel like the VI even does a little better with eye-AF than the S5IIX with the Sigma I-series 35 f/2.
All anecdotal. I don't have all this gear to do side-by-side. But so far, I trust the VI for single shot eye-AF at f/2 as much as I did my Canon R5 with the tiny RF 50 f/1.8 lens.Thank you for your input. It's great to hear from someone who is familiar with other brands compared to the VI. Have you tested Eye-AF in continuous mode? I'm curious if you still encounter consistent results. Or perhaps you're already aware that the lens doesn't perform well with fast tracking?I haven't tried tracking yet. I'm hoping it may it work well for portraits where the subject is moving around slightly or for use without eye-AF as a focus-recompose tool.
Two shots from earlier this week just for fun:
Really nice B&W images. Can you explain what the role of the BPM 1/4 filter is? Do you always shoot with the filter attached? It's new to me.
Fred Miranda wrote
highdesertmesa wrote
Fred Miranda wrote
nhsonyshooter wrote
Fred Miranda wrote
Could you share what was the deal break for you?When it comes to the menu, I initially had a similar struggle with Fuji's extensive options. The multitude of choices can be overwhelming and confusing, especially with options like DR 200, DR 400, and D Range Priority. Understanding what these options do and how they affect the final image, particularly regarding RAW files (RAF), can be a bit tricky. It's definitely a learning curve, and I only grasped what's actually happening to the raw file after spending some time experimenting with all the options. I stuck with it to learn the system so I could effectively review lenses for the X-mount system.
Over time, though, I became more comfortable with the settings and started enjoying the camera more, especially once I settled into a consistent setup that I rarely change. The Film Simulations feature really changed the way I approached shooting, and being able to do some pre-editing in-camera shifted my mindset towards getting the image right straight out of the camera, reminiscent of shooting film. That's one of the things I find most attractive about Fuji cameras right now.
You mentioned the autofocus sometimes being inaccurate on the X100VI, which would be frustrating, especially when you expect quick and accurate autofocus, particularly for tracking subjects. That's why, for me, if I'm using an AF camera, I really want it to perform well in that regard. Otherwise, I tend to stick with manual focus lenses. While I do own a few Fuji XF lenses and find their autofocus very good and accurate, perhaps the issue lies with the X100VI built-in lens, which may not be quick enough to keep up with the AF algorithm.
As for glitches, I haven't experienced any with my X-Pro3, but it's possible that I bought it with a firmware version that had already been thoroughly tested and refined. Considering experiences like yours with the X100VI, I'm leaning towards sticking with a Fuji with interchangeable lenses, allowing me to choose lenses that perform well in the AF department.
– Single shot
– Single shot with eye-AF
Haven't tried continuous – I'd use a higher end camera for that.
The only time the VI has AF issues for me is at f/2 when 1) I choose the smallest single point box, which is often too small to find contrast in dim light, or 2) I choose an overly large single point box, which can focus on an unintended object inside it (because of course it can't know what you want to focus on inside the box).
I find the VI lens to be sharper at f/2 than the cheap Nikon 40 f/2 kit lens I had for my Zf. The VI eye-AF also gets the iris in focus 95% of the time at f/2 in single shot mode, something my Nikon Zf + 40 f/2 struggled with. The Nikon it seems was in love with eyebrows and eyelashes but not eyeballs. I feel like the VI even does a little better with eye-AF than the S5IIX with the Sigma I-series 35 f/2.
All anecdotal. I don't have all this gear to do side-by-side. But so far, I trust the VI for single shot eye-AF at f/2 as much as I did my Canon R5 with the tiny RF 50 f/1.8 lens.
Two shots from earlier this week just for fun:
Really nice B&W images. Can you explain what the role of the BPM 1/4 filter is? Do you always shoot with the filter attached? It's new to me.
Mar 15, 2024 at 11:15 PM
p.15 #13X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Well, I was fortunate to be in the right place and the right time and scored a silver X100VI. This was my first Fujifilm camera, so I wasn’t sure what to expect. Overall, I was mostly impressed, but the restriction to a 23mm lens took getting used to. Oh, do I love the buttery smooth dials and the layout of the buttons though. What a difference it is taking photos with this camera compared to the old days of using traditional SLRs. Then, I got a X-H2S with the 50-140mm lens yesterday and WOW, what a camera!! I’m in love with this monster of a camera. I did switch back and forth between the H2S and VI to learn that they both have their strengths and weaknesses. I can’t wait for my 16-55mm lens to show up, and I might just pull the trigger on the Fujifilm 27mm WR pancake lens next.
Mar 16, 2024 at 12:20 AM
p.15 #14X100VI first impressions + running commentary
foto16 wrote:
Personally, I really value opinions like yours. It's great that you were curious, gave it a try, but found it wasn't your cup of tea.
When it comes to the menu, I initially had a similar struggle with Fuji's extensive options. The multitude of choices can be overwhelming and confusing, especially with options like DR 200, DR 400, and D Range Priority. Understanding what these options do and how they affect the final image, particularly regarding RAW files (RAF), can be a bit tricky. It's definitely a learning curve, and I only grasped what's actually happening to the raw file after spending some time experimenting with all the options. I stuck with it to learn the system so I could effectively review lenses for the X-mount system.
Over time, though, I became more comfortable with the settings and started enjoying the camera more, especially once I settled into a consistent setup that I rarely change. The Film Simulations feature really changed the way I approached shooting, and being able to do some pre-editing in-camera shifted my mindset towards getting the image right straight out of the camera, reminiscent of shooting film. That's one of the things I find most attractive about Fuji cameras right now.
You mentioned the autofocus sometimes being inaccurate on the X100VI, which would be frustrating, especially when you expect quick and accurate autofocus, particularly for tracking subjects. That's why, for me, if I'm using an AF camera, I really want it to perform well in that regard. Otherwise, I tend to stick with manual focus lenses. While I do own a few Fuji XF lenses and find their autofocus very good and accurate, perhaps the issue lies with the X100VI built-in lens, which may not be quick enough to keep up with the AF algorithm.
As for glitches, I haven't experienced any with my X-Pro3, but it's possible that I bought it with a firmware version that had already been thoroughly tested and refined. Considering experiences like yours with the X100VI, I'm leaning towards sticking with a Fuji with interchangeable lenses, allowing me to choose lenses that perform well in the AF department.Both of these are extremely fast and accurate with the 100VI for me, even when shooting with the BPM 1/4 filter:
– Single shot
– Single shot with eye-AF
Haven't tried continuous – I'd use a higher end camera for that.
The only time the VI has AF issues for me is at f/2 when 1) I choose the smallest single point box, which is often too small to find contrast in dim light, or 2) I choose an overly large single point box, which can focus on an unintended object inside it (because of course it can't know what you want to focus on inside the box).
I find the VI lens to be sharper at f/2 than the cheap Nikon 40 f/2 kit lens I had for my Zf. The VI eye-AF also gets the iris in focus 95% of the time at f/2 in single shot mode, something my Nikon Zf + 40 f/2 struggled with. The Nikon it seems was in love with eyebrows and eyelashes but not eyeballs. I feel like the VI even does a little better with eye-AF than the S5IIX with the Sigma I-series 35 f/2.
All anecdotal. I don't have all this gear to do side-by-side. But so far, I trust the VI for single shot eye-AF at f/2 as much as I did my Canon R5 with the tiny RF 50 f/1.8 lens.Thank you for your input. It's great to hear from someone who is familiar with other brands compared to the VI. Have you tested Eye-AF in continuous mode? I'm curious if you still encounter consistent results. Or perhaps you're already aware that the lens doesn't perform well with fast tracking?I haven't tried tracking yet. I'm hoping it may it work well for portraits where the subject is moving around slightly or for use without eye-AF as a focus-recompose tool.
Two shots from earlier this week just for fun:Really nice B&W images. Can you explain what the role of the BPM 1/4 filter is? Do you always shoot with the filter attached? It's new to me.
The BPM is one of many diffusion filters on the market. The purpose is to make the image look less digital and "clinically" sharp. They can also give a bloom effect around bright light sources, which many shooters find appealing.
Back a few pages:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1848441/7#16490434
highdesertmesa wrote
Fred Miranda wrote
highdesertmesa wrote
Fred Miranda wrote
nhsonyshooter wrote
There really was not one thing. Kinda like death by a thousand paper cuts. I had always liked the look of these but never really considered them as an option for me till they added the 40mp sensor and IBIS. After some testing the last couple days I think the lens is acceptably sharp in the center and the sensor is pretty good. IBIS not bad either. I have been using RV and CR body's which have some of the best AF in the business. This camera is just not in the same league but to be fair it is priced well under both. So I probably had my expectations set too high. That said I don't want to be even thinking about AF in a fixed lens camera like this. Yet there I was constantly checking. I felt like I got too many false positives. Meaning green box showing focus (when it didn't disappear) and then punching in only to find it not really in focus but almost. I dove deep into the menu's and really tried to test everything I could. Surely it had to be on me. The best way I can describe it is it just is not as refined as my latest Sony's. The software is dare I say Glitchy in some cases. I just assumed in a version 6 camera it would be more sorted. I know I'll probably get roasted for saying that. But this is just my personal opinion. Is it possible to take nice images with it, sure. I have seen plenty and took a couple myself. I do like some of those film simulations. But in the end I just felt like it was fighting me in too many instances. That's not what I'm looking for in an EDC type of camera. But Hey with it being the best selling camera ever made what do I know. I wanted to like it. I really did.When it comes to the menu, I initially had a similar struggle with Fuji's extensive options. The multitude of choices can be overwhelming and confusing, especially with options like DR 200, DR 400, and D Range Priority. Understanding what these options do and how they affect the final image, particularly regarding RAW files (RAF), can be a bit tricky. It's definitely a learning curve, and I only grasped what's actually happening to the raw file after spending some time experimenting with all the options. I stuck with it to learn the system so I could effectively review lenses for the X-mount system.
Over time, though, I became more comfortable with the settings and started enjoying the camera more, especially once I settled into a consistent setup that I rarely change. The Film Simulations feature really changed the way I approached shooting, and being able to do some pre-editing in-camera shifted my mindset towards getting the image right straight out of the camera, reminiscent of shooting film. That's one of the things I find most attractive about Fuji cameras right now.
You mentioned the autofocus sometimes being inaccurate on the X100VI, which would be frustrating, especially when you expect quick and accurate autofocus, particularly for tracking subjects. That's why, for me, if I'm using an AF camera, I really want it to perform well in that regard. Otherwise, I tend to stick with manual focus lenses. While I do own a few Fuji XF lenses and find their autofocus very good and accurate, perhaps the issue lies with the X100VI built-in lens, which may not be quick enough to keep up with the AF algorithm.
As for glitches, I haven't experienced any with my X-Pro3, but it's possible that I bought it with a firmware version that had already been thoroughly tested and refined. Considering experiences like yours with the X100VI, I'm leaning towards sticking with a Fuji with interchangeable lenses, allowing me to choose lenses that perform well in the AF department.
– Single shot
– Single shot with eye-AF
Haven't tried continuous – I'd use a higher end camera for that.
The only time the VI has AF issues for me is at f/2 when 1) I choose the smallest single point box, which is often too small to find contrast in dim light, or 2) I choose an overly large single point box, which can focus on an unintended object inside it (because of course it can't know what you want to focus on inside the box).
I find the VI lens to be sharper at f/2 than the cheap Nikon 40 f/2 kit lens I had for my Zf. The VI eye-AF also gets the iris in focus 95% of the time at f/2 in single shot mode, something my Nikon Zf + 40 f/2 struggled with. The Nikon it seems was in love with eyebrows and eyelashes but not eyeballs. I feel like the VI even does a little better with eye-AF than the S5IIX with the Sigma I-series 35 f/2.
All anecdotal. I don't have all this gear to do side-by-side. But so far, I trust the VI for single shot eye-AF at f/2 as much as I did my Canon R5 with the tiny RF 50 f/1.8 lens.
Two shots from earlier this week just for fun:
The BPM is one of many diffusion filters on the market. The purpose is to make the image look less digital and "clinically" sharp. They can also give a bloom effect around bright light sources, which many shooters find appealing.
Back a few pages:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1848441/7#16490434
Mar 16, 2024 at 10:47 AM
p.15 #15X100VI first impressions + running commentary
oldsaltydog wrote:
So, I'm taking a vacation to London and Paris in May and was wanting to get a new camera, my X10 is noticeably slow (even though I love the size) and I want the bigger sensor and all the improvements especially the BT connectivity to my phone! Of course, the X100VI was my first choice but back orders would make it nearly impossible to get one in time. I was in my local Navy Exchange yesterday picking up some stuff and decided to swing by the camera department because I know they sell Fuji cameras and low and behold sitting...Show more →
That's awesome. I thought to look at the NEX online a couple of weeks ago (and just rechecked) and though there is a lot of Fuji gear available, they don't show the X100VI. I'm a veteran but not retired so I can only shop at the exchange online, not in person. Congrats on getting one painlessly!
So, I'm taking a vacation to London and Paris in May and was wanting to get a new camera, my X10 is noticeably slow (even though I love the size) and I want the bigger sensor and all the improvements especially the BT connectivity to my phone! Of course, the X100VI was my first choice but back orders would make it nearly impossible to get one in time. I was in my local Navy Exchange yesterday picking up some stuff and decided to swing by the camera department because I know they sell Fuji cameras and low and behold sitting...Show more →
That's awesome. I thought to look at the NEX online a couple of weeks ago (and just rechecked) and though there is a lot of Fuji gear available, they don't show the X100VI. I'm a veteran but not retired so I can only shop at the exchange online, not in person. Congrats on getting one painlessly!
Mar 16, 2024 at 10:57 AM
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p.15 #16X100VI first impressions + running commentary
highdesertmesa wrote:
When it comes to the menu, I initially had a similar struggle with Fuji's extensive options. The multitude of choices can be overwhelming and confusing, especially with options like DR 200, DR 400, and D Range Priority. Understanding what these options do and how they affect the final image, particularly regarding RAW files (RAF), can be a bit tricky. It's definitely a learning curve, and I only grasped what's actually happening to the raw file after spending some time experimenting with all the options. I stuck with it to learn the system so I could effectively review lenses for the X-mount system.
Over time, though, I became more comfortable with the settings and started enjoying the camera more, especially once I settled into a consistent setup that I rarely change. The Film Simulations feature really changed the way I approached shooting, and being able to do some pre-editing in-camera shifted my mindset towards getting the image right straight out of the camera, reminiscent of shooting film. That's one of the things I find most attractive about Fuji cameras right now.
You mentioned the autofocus sometimes being inaccurate on the X100VI, which would be frustrating, especially when you expect quick and accurate autofocus, particularly for tracking subjects. That's why, for me, if I'm using an AF camera, I really want it to perform well in that regard. Otherwise, I tend to stick with manual focus lenses. While I do own a few Fuji XF lenses and find their autofocus very good and accurate, perhaps the issue lies with the X100VI built-in lens, which may not be quick enough to keep up with the AF algorithm.
As for glitches, I haven't experienced any with my X-Pro3, but it's possible that I bought it with a firmware version that had already been thoroughly tested and refined. Considering experiences like yours with the X100VI, I'm leaning towards sticking with a Fuji with interchangeable lenses, allowing me to choose lenses that perform well in the AF department.Both of these are extremely fast and accurate with the 100VI for me, even when shooting with the BPM 1/4 filter:
– Single shot
– Single shot with eye-AF
Haven't tried continuous – I'd use a higher end camera for that.
The only time the VI has AF issues for me is at f/2 when 1) I choose the smallest single point box, which is often too small to find contrast in dim light, or 2) I choose an overly large single point box, which can focus on an unintended object inside it (because of course it can't know what you want to focus on inside the box).
I find the VI lens to be sharper at f/2 than the cheap Nikon 40 f/2 kit lens I had for my Zf. The VI eye-AF also gets the iris in focus 95% of the time at f/2 in single shot mode, something my Nikon Zf + 40 f/2 struggled with. The Nikon it seems was in love with eyebrows and eyelashes but not eyeballs. I feel like the VI even does a little better with eye-AF than the S5IIX with the Sigma I-series 35 f/2.
All anecdotal. I don't have all this gear to do side-by-side. But so far, I trust the VI for single shot eye-AF at f/2 as much as I did my Canon R5 with the tiny RF 50 f/1.8 lens.Thank you for your input. It's great to hear from someone who is familiar with other brands compared to the VI. Have you tested Eye-AF in continuous mode? I'm curious if you still encounter consistent results. Or perhaps you're already aware that the lens doesn't perform well with fast tracking?I haven't tried tracking yet. I'm hoping it may it work well for portraits where the subject is moving around slightly or for use without eye-AF as a focus-recompose tool.
Two shots from earlier this week just for fun:Really nice B&W images. Can you explain what the role of the BPM 1/4 filter is? Do you always shoot with the filter attached? It's new to me.The BPM is one of many diffusion filters on the market. The purpose is to make the image look less digital and "clinically" sharp. They can also give a bloom effect around bright light sources, which many shooters find appealing.
Back a few pages:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1848441/7#16490434
Thank you very much. Will definitely read those threads.
foto16 wrote
highdesertmesa wrote
Fred Miranda wrote
highdesertmesa wrote
Fred Miranda wrote
Personally, I really value opinions like yours. It's great that you were curious, gave it a try, but found it wasn't your cup of tea.When it comes to the menu, I initially had a similar struggle with Fuji's extensive options. The multitude of choices can be overwhelming and confusing, especially with options like DR 200, DR 400, and D Range Priority. Understanding what these options do and how they affect the final image, particularly regarding RAW files (RAF), can be a bit tricky. It's definitely a learning curve, and I only grasped what's actually happening to the raw file after spending some time experimenting with all the options. I stuck with it to learn the system so I could effectively review lenses for the X-mount system.
Over time, though, I became more comfortable with the settings and started enjoying the camera more, especially once I settled into a consistent setup that I rarely change. The Film Simulations feature really changed the way I approached shooting, and being able to do some pre-editing in-camera shifted my mindset towards getting the image right straight out of the camera, reminiscent of shooting film. That's one of the things I find most attractive about Fuji cameras right now.
You mentioned the autofocus sometimes being inaccurate on the X100VI, which would be frustrating, especially when you expect quick and accurate autofocus, particularly for tracking subjects. That's why, for me, if I'm using an AF camera, I really want it to perform well in that regard. Otherwise, I tend to stick with manual focus lenses. While I do own a few Fuji XF lenses and find their autofocus very good and accurate, perhaps the issue lies with the X100VI built-in lens, which may not be quick enough to keep up with the AF algorithm.
As for glitches, I haven't experienced any with my X-Pro3, but it's possible that I bought it with a firmware version that had already been thoroughly tested and refined. Considering experiences like yours with the X100VI, I'm leaning towards sticking with a Fuji with interchangeable lenses, allowing me to choose lenses that perform well in the AF department.
– Single shot
– Single shot with eye-AF
Haven't tried continuous – I'd use a higher end camera for that.
The only time the VI has AF issues for me is at f/2 when 1) I choose the smallest single point box, which is often too small to find contrast in dim light, or 2) I choose an overly large single point box, which can focus on an unintended object inside it (because of course it can't know what you want to focus on inside the box).
I find the VI lens to be sharper at f/2 than the cheap Nikon 40 f/2 kit lens I had for my Zf. The VI eye-AF also gets the iris in focus 95% of the time at f/2 in single shot mode, something my Nikon Zf + 40 f/2 struggled with. The Nikon it seems was in love with eyebrows and eyelashes but not eyeballs. I feel like the VI even does a little better with eye-AF than the S5IIX with the Sigma I-series 35 f/2.
All anecdotal. I don't have all this gear to do side-by-side. But so far, I trust the VI for single shot eye-AF at f/2 as much as I did my Canon R5 with the tiny RF 50 f/1.8 lens.
Two shots from earlier this week just for fun:
Back a few pages:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1848441/7#16490434
Thank you very much. Will definitely read those threads.
Mar 16, 2024 at 11:18 AM
p.15 #17X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Palmguy wrote:
That's awesome. I thought to look at the NEX online a couple of weeks ago (and just rechecked) and though there is a lot of Fuji gear available, they don't show the X100VI. I'm a veteran but not retired so I can only shop at the exchange online, not in person. Congrats on getting one painlessly!
The NEX website had several X100VI cameras (silver and black) available earlier this week. The cameras showed up early in the morning (Wednesday I think), and I was able to get one of the black ones. The entire inventory was gone within a couple of hours.
oldsaltydog wrote
So, I'm taking a vacation to London and Paris in May and was wanting to get a new camera, my X10 is noticeably slow (even though I love the size) and I want the bigger sensor and all the improvements especially the BT connectivity to my phone! Of course, the X100VI was my first choice but back orders would make it nearly impossible to get one in time. I was in my local Navy Exchange yesterday picking up some stuff and decided to swing by the camera department because I know they sell Fuji cameras and low and behold sitting in the shelf amongst the XT5's and GFX's was a beautiful X100VI. So happy to not have to fuss and stress about getting one, and I love it! Now I have my dream camera for my trip and there's plenty of time to learn about it! I better get busy!The NEX website had several X100VI cameras (silver and black) available earlier this week. The cameras showed up early in the morning (Wednesday I think), and I was able to get one of the black ones. The entire inventory was gone within a couple of hours.
Mar 16, 2024 at 12:18 PM
p.15 #18X100VI first impressions + running commentary
In case anyone was wondering about the size of the X100VI w/filter compared to an M with a small lens.
Mar 17, 2024 at 06:11 PM
p.15 #19X100VI first impressions + running commentary
highdesertmesa wrote:
In case anyone was wondering about the size of the X100VI w/filter compared to an M with a small lens.
Eye Candy!
The X-Pro series shares a similar size to the Leica M10 and M11, but it stands out for being noticeably slimmer and lighter, especially when compared to the brass Leicas. When coupled with the XF 27/2.8 lens or one of the Voigtlander pancakes, it transforms into a compact system, although it remains slightly larger than the X100 series.
In case anyone was wondering about the size of the X100VI w/filter compared to an M with a small lens.
Eye Candy!
The X-Pro series shares a similar size to the Leica M10 and M11, but it stands out for being noticeably slimmer and lighter, especially when compared to the brass Leicas. When coupled with the XF 27/2.8 lens or one of the Voigtlander pancakes, it transforms into a compact system, although it remains slightly larger than the X100 series.
Mar 17, 2024 at 09:05 PM
p.15 #20X100VI first impressions + running commentary
Fred Miranda wrote:
Eye Candy!
The X-Pro series shares a similar size to the Leica M10 and M11, but it stands out for being noticeably slimmer and lighter, especially when compared to the brass Leicas. When coupled with the XF 27/2.8 lens or one of the Voigtlander pancakes, it transforms into a compact system, although it remains slightly larger than the X100 series.
Honestly I was hoping more for an X-Pro 4 (that reverted to a traditional LCD setup) than the X100VI, but this will hold me over.
The X100 cameras really shines with all the extras removed: just the camera, no filter/hood, no thumb grip, etc. I’ve come halfway there in that I ditched the idea of using the hood and just use the filter setup with a regular 49mm lens cap. If it were weather sealed without having to add the filter, I might use it fully stripped down more often.
Since you mentioned brass, I wouldn’t turn my nose up at a special edition X100VI with brass top/bottom plates and brass dials with black lacquer paint
highdesertmesa wrote
In case anyone was wondering about the size of the X100VI w/filter compared to an M with a small lens. The X-Pro series shares a similar size to the Leica M10 and M11, but it stands out for being noticeably slimmer and lighter, especially when compared to the brass Leicas. When coupled with the XF 27/2.8 lens or one of the Voigtlander pancakes, it transforms into a compact system, although it remains slightly larger than the X100 series.
Honestly I was hoping more for an X-Pro 4 (that reverted to a traditional LCD setup) than the X100VI, but this will hold me over.
The X100 cameras really shines with all the extras removed: just the camera, no filter/hood, no thumb grip, etc. I’ve come halfway there in that I ditched the idea of using the hood and just use the filter setup with a regular 49mm lens cap. If it were weather sealed without having to add the filter, I might use it fully stripped down more often.
Since you mentioned brass, I wouldn’t turn my nose up at a special edition X100VI with brass top/bottom plates and brass dials with black lacquer paint
Mar 17, 2024 at 09:59 PM