davesit wrote: rodsandcones wroteAs another data point if it's helpful for anyone, I ordered a silver VI from BH and had my order in at 1003 PST- confirmation email shows 10:04pm. I realized that I should have ordered black because I could use my thumb rest and filter/accessories from my black x100V so ordered a black one, confirmation email was 10:08pm. I hoped they would both be available and was going to cancel the silver or send it back unopened.
I don't know if BH's system is sequential but the difference in order #'s is 1651. The 10:04 confirmation email order has shipped, the 10:08 confirmation email order is marked backlogged.
FWIW, I got my x100V last summer and maybe I got lucky but I definitely wasn't going to pay more than msrp. I got on lists for local camera shops in late May and got my camera in July. I had the original x100 and no Fuji product since.If I read you right, B&H sold 1,651 units - I know that's not just X100VI's but at that hour they were probably all for the camera - in just 4 minutes. They received 600 units in the first shipment from Fuji and the monthly production is 15K unit. Folks who are ordering the camera now could be in for a very long wait.
That's the way I interpreted it. But again, I'm guessing. I don't know BH's system. I think I'm going to cancel the order and just stick with silver, but part of me is curious how many weeks/months that four minutes later equates to.
Fred Miranda wrote: RustyRus wroteFred Miranda wroteRoamingScott wroteFred Miranda wroteAdorama's website indicates that the item is currently on backorder, with an expected availability date of 06/01/2024. So, if you're placing an order now, about 9 days after the product launch, anticipate receiving your camera in June!
https://www.adorama.com/ifjx1006.htmlExpected but unfortunate!I expected that shifting production to China would somewhat solve this issue. However, even with production running at full capacity, Adorama predicts a three-month waiting period for pre-orders placed today. This situation is likely similar at B&H Photo. Smaller stores, particularly in Europe, are receiving very limited quantities. Once influencers receive their cameras and begin posting on TikTok, this situation could deteriorate further.I just spoke with a local shop in Seattle- The biggest Seattle shop but still-
They had over 500 pre-orders of the X100VI- They had over 250 in the first 2 hours of allowing them. That is crazy for this store-This camera better be good.
Your not kidding. I just bit the bullet and paid over retail for it. I figure what the heck if I don't like it. It will not be hard to turn around and sell if the next wave is not till June.
Fred Miranda wrote: RustyRus wroteFred Miranda wroteRoamingScott wroteFred Miranda wroteAdorama's website indicates that the item is currently on backorder, with an expected availability date of 06/01/2024. So, if you're placing an order now, about 9 days after the product launch, anticipate receiving your camera in June!
https://www.adorama.com/ifjx1006.htmlExpected but unfortunate!I expected that shifting production to China would somewhat solve this issue. However, even with production running at full capacity, Adorama predicts a three-month waiting period for pre-orders placed today. This situation is likely similar at B&H Photo. Smaller stores, particularly in Europe, are receiving very limited quantities. Once influencers receive their cameras and begin posting on TikTok, this situation could deteriorate further.I just spoke with a local shop in Seattle- The biggest Seattle shop but still-
They had over 500 pre-orders of the X100VI- They had over 250 in the first 2 hours of allowing them. That is crazy for this store-This camera better be good.
Someone at Sony must be looking at this and be thinking about reviving the RX1R series. No?
rodsandcones wrote: Fred Miranda wroteRustyRus wroteFred Miranda wroteRoamingScott wroteFred Miranda wroteAdorama's website indicates that the item is currently on backorder, with an expected availability date of 06/01/2024. So, if you're placing an order now, about 9 days after the product launch, anticipate receiving your camera in June!
https://www.adorama.com/ifjx1006.htmlExpected but unfortunate!I expected that shifting production to China would somewhat solve this issue. However, even with production running at full capacity, Adorama predicts a three-month waiting period for pre-orders placed today. This situation is likely similar at B&H Photo. Smaller stores, particularly in Europe, are receiving very limited quantities. Once influencers receive their cameras and begin posting on TikTok, this situation could deteriorate further.I just spoke with a local shop in Seattle- The biggest Seattle shop but still-
They had over 500 pre-orders of the X100VI- They had over 250 in the first 2 hours of allowing them. That is crazy for this store-This camera better be good. Someone at Sony must be looking at this and be thinking about reviving the RX1R series. No?
I hope so. Because even if I like the x100vi I'd sell it in a heartbeat for a new RX1Riii.
Or maybe what's really appealing about the X100 series are its hybrid viewfinder, film simulations, and rangefinder-style looks, features that the Sony RX1 series lacks.
Fred Miranda wrote:
Or maybe what's really appealing about the X100 series are its hybrid viewfinder, film simulations, and rangefinder-style looks, features that the Sony RX1 series lacks.
Mmmmm would be great if Sony launched an RX1 version of this
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rodsandcones wrote: Fred Miranda wroteRustyRus wroteFred Miranda wroteRoamingScott wroteFred Miranda wroteAdorama's website indicates that the item is currently on backorder, with an expected availability date of 06/01/2024. So, if you're placing an order now, about 9 days after the product launch, anticipate receiving your camera in June!
https://www.adorama.com/ifjx1006.htmlExpected but unfortunate!I expected that shifting production to China would somewhat solve this issue. However, even with production running at full capacity, Adorama predicts a three-month waiting period for pre-orders placed today. This situation is likely similar at B&H Photo. Smaller stores, particularly in Europe, are receiving very limited quantities. Once influencers receive their cameras and begin posting on TikTok, this situation could deteriorate further.I just spoke with a local shop in Seattle- The biggest Seattle shop but still-
They had over 500 pre-orders of the X100VI- They had over 250 in the first 2 hours of allowing them. That is crazy for this store-This camera better be good. Someone at Sony must be looking at this and be thinking about reviving the RX1R series. No?
tzhang4284 wrote:
As a data point, I had an order at B&H 3 minutes after it opened based on confirmation and it still showed as backordered this morning. I did ask them to change the price from the regular to edu price after that was out so maybe that affected my place in line.
Luckily, I had another pre-order that came through at a smaller camera store that I made after the B&H order so canceled the B&H one - decided it wasn't worth the time to resell but I wouldn't be surprised at a frothy resell market for these for a month or two. Availability outside of B&H seems pretty good so check local camera dealers.
Anyways will look to enjoy mine - good luck to everyone looking to get one....Show more →
Thanks for the tip here…I figured I was just stuck at retail pricing but they adjusted me to EDU today!
Unfortunately I fell asleep around 11:45pm CST and woke up again at 12:30am and ordered then….so who knows how long it’ll be.
Fred Miranda wrote:
Or maybe what's really appealing about the X100 series are its hybrid viewfinder, film simulations, and rangefinder-style looks, features that the Sony RX1 series lacks.
Yes, this.
Sony makes tech gadgets, not cool retro cameras.
But it seems absolutely nuts that Nikon, Canon and even Olympus (OM System), who have a long history of actual cool retro rangefinder-like cameras, are sitting on their hands doing nothing while they watch Fujifilm order sheets fill up.
Nikon and Canon could make a compact weather-sealed fixed lens full-frame cool retro 'street photo' camera that could absolutely compete with the Fujifilm X100 series for hipster dollars. And tall dollars too from regular camera enthusiasts who are lining up for months long waits for a X100V, VI. Not everyone has a desire (or the means) to spend $4k (used) to $6k on a weather-sealed Leica Q with a fixed lens. But plenty of people are lining up to spend $1400 to $1600, or even a little more for the X100 cameras.
Seems like such a missed opportunity from the biggest manufacturers.
Jazzgear296 wrote:
I’m late to the party and just pre-ordered mine (silver) — so what am I looking at…. end of summer?
According to one of the major stores, you should expect to receive it in about three months. However, as many have pointed out, this is just an estimate because nobody really knows for sure.
fiorano wrote: Fred Miranda wroteOr maybe what's really appealing about the X100 series are its hybrid viewfinder, film simulations, and rangefinder-style looks, features that the Sony RX1 series lacks.Yes, this.
Sony makes tech gadgets, not cool retro cameras.
But it seems absolutely nuts that Nikon, Canon and even Olympus (OM System), who have a long history of actual cool retro rangefinder-like cameras, are sitting on their hands doing nothing while they watch Fujifilm order sheets fill up.
Nikon and Canon could make a compact weather-sealed fixed lens full-frame cool retro 'street photo' camera that could absolutely compete with the Fujifilm X100 series for hipster dollars. And tall dollars too from regular camera enthusiasts who are lining up for months long waits for a X100V, VI. Not everyone has a desire (or the means) to spend $4k (used) to $6k on a weather-sealed Leica Q with a fixed lens. But plenty of people are lining up to spend $1400 to $1600, or even a little more for the X100 cameras.
Seems like such a missed opportunity from the biggest manufacturers....Show more →
I suspect R&D and new product development is pretty much dead at OM System. JIP the owners just seem to be doing the bare minimum to keep the pulse beating. That leaves Canon and Nikon. I'm not sure about the volumes they seek, but Canon might not get out of bed for 15 000 units per month. Nikon is a possibility because at least they seem willing to do something out of the box.
mak543 wrote:
Monthly production is 15,000 units. Global pre-orders exceeded 1,000,000? It's gonna be a long wait if you do the math.
Where did you hear global pre-orders are 1,000,000? If my googling is correct there were only 8 million digital cameras sold in total worldwide in 2022, and 5.9 million ILCs.
fotografur wrote: Jazzgear296 wroteI’m late to the party and just pre-ordered mine (silver) — so what am I looking at…. end of summer?Probably. Who did you order it from?
Adorama is saying "On Backorder
Expected Availability: 06/01/2024"
Geoff D F wrote:
Where did you hear global pre-orders are 1,000,000? If my googling is correct there were only 8 million digital cameras sold in total worldwide in 2022, and 5.9 million ILCs.
Internet Actually a long time Youtuber who has some connection in photography industry, but he tends to run his mouth quite a bit. That's why the '?' behind the number. Take it with a grain of salt.
$2300+ plus tax is the current eBay price tag. This camera is worth more than an ounce of gold ($2054 as of today)