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p.2 #1 · A9iii Images


Great action sequences. The camera doesn't appeal to what I want, but its impressive to see the technology working so well and sounds like a pleasure to shoot with. Thanks for providing a field report.


Jan 25, 2024 at 12:53 AM
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p.2 #2 · A9iii Images


High Iso Images processed in DxO PL7

Iso5000
https://duncangroenewald.com/img/photos/2024-01-25/DG93_20240125_1_1959_DxD.jpg

Iso6400
https://duncangroenewald.com/img/photos/2024-01-25/DG93_20240125_1_1966_DxD.jpg
https://duncangroenewald.com/img/photos/2024-01-25/DG93_20240125_1_1967_DxD.jpg

Iso12800
https://duncangroenewald.com/img/photos/2024-01-25/DG93_20240125_1_1987_DxD.jpg

Iso16000
https://duncangroenewald.com/img/photos/2024-01-25/DG93_20240125_1_1995_DxD.jpg
https://duncangroenewald.com/img/photos/2024-01-25/DG93_20240125_1_1998_DxD.jpg

Iso25600
https://duncangroenewald.com/img/photos/2024-01-25/DG93_20240125_1_2001_DxD.jpg
https://duncangroenewald.com/img/photos/2024-01-25/DG93_20240125_1_2007_DxD.jpg
https://duncangroenewald.com/img/photos/2024-01-25/DG93_20240125_1_2012_DxD.jpg

Iso4000
https://duncangroenewald.com/img/photos/2024-01-25/DG93_20240125_1_2034_DxD.jpg



Jan 25, 2024 at 02:44 AM
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p.2 #3 · A9iii Images


Flash sync

Flash 1/1000s iso250
https://duncangroenewald.com/img/photos/2024-01-25/DG93_20240125_1_2045_DxD.jpg

Flash 1/16000s iso250
https://duncangroenewald.com/img/photos/2024-01-25/DG93_20240125_1_2047_DxD.jpg

Flash 1/8000s iso250
https://duncangroenewald.com/img/photos/2024-01-25/DG93_20240125_1_2048_DxD.jpg



Jan 25, 2024 at 02:46 AM
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p.2 #4 · A9iii Images


Yeah, IQ is not going to be an issue with this camera when used for its targeted applications.

The other capabilities are just astounding.



Jan 25, 2024 at 03:53 AM
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p.2 #5 · A9iii Images


Rolling Shutter distortion - nothing at all.

This is a 0.12 second snip from the middle of a very fast pan.

https://duncangroenewald.com/img/photos/2024-01-24/1/downsampled/DG93_20240124_2_1770.jpg
https://duncangroenewald.com/img/photos/2024-01-24/1/downsampled/DG93_20240124_2_1771.jpg
https://duncangroenewald.com/img/photos/2024-01-24/1/downsampled/DG93_20240124_2_1772.jpg
https://duncangroenewald.com/img/photos/2024-01-24/1/downsampled/DG93_20240124_2_1773.jpg
https://duncangroenewald.com/img/photos/2024-01-24/1/downsampled/DG93_20240124_2_1774.jpg
https://duncangroenewald.com/img/photos/2024-01-24/1/downsampled/DG93_20240124_2_1775.jpg
https://duncangroenewald.com/img/photos/2024-01-24/1/downsampled/DG93_20240124_2_1776.jpg
https://duncangroenewald.com/img/photos/2024-01-24/1/downsampled/DG93_20240124_2_1777.jpg
https://duncangroenewald.com/img/photos/2024-01-24/1/downsampled/DG93_20240124_2_1778.jpg
https://duncangroenewald.com/img/photos/2024-01-24/1/downsampled/DG93_20240124_2_1779.jpg
https://duncangroenewald.com/img/photos/2024-01-24/1/downsampled/DG93_20240124_2_1780.jpg
https://duncangroenewald.com/img/photos/2024-01-24/1/downsampled/DG93_20240124_2_1781.jpg
https://duncangroenewald.com/img/photos/2024-01-24/1/downsampled/DG93_20240124_2_1782.jpg
https://duncangroenewald.com/img/photos/2024-01-24/1/downsampled/DG93_20240124_2_1783.jpg
https://duncangroenewald.com/img/photos/2024-01-24/1/downsampled/DG93_20240124_2_1784.jpg



Jan 25, 2024 at 07:02 AM
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p.2 #6 · A9iii Images


duncang wrote:
I am probably not the best person to ask about that because I never noticed any reset in the EVF on the A1 - I use 240p on the A1.



Anytime you lift off the shutter on the A1 (or any other Sony camera) you will see the image jump ahead to the live feed. The faster the sensor read the less this is noticeable so the A1 is the least noticeable of all the cameras (up until the A9III). Canon R3 does this much worse than A1...R5 worse so (due to non-stacked sensor). The only camera I've shot to date that does away with this is the Z9/Z8. Based on Sony's marketing I think the A9III probably eliminates this also. Is this a big deal in shooting the A1?....no, not really....but it would be nice to finally get rid of it.



Jan 25, 2024 at 09:21 AM
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p.2 #7 · A9iii Images


The only jump I have noticed is the IS reset. Do you see this when using 240p as well ?

If it jumps ahead to live feed then it must be behind so subject would be heading out the front of the frame. And there I was thinking I am just not so good at panning

With the a6700 you have to shoot using H to get realtime EVF view.




Jan 25, 2024 at 09:32 AM
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p.2 #8 · A9iii Images


I learned something new today. DxO PL7 seems to rely on the optics modules for some sharpening - someone pointed out that the low ISO images in particular looked a bit oof. I restarted DxO and they seem to be looking a bit better now.

If anyone is interested I created a python script to batch modify the A9M3 files to A9M2 files so DxO PL will process them normally. The optics modules failed to load initially but I thought I could just ignore them - a bit surprising that they have lens specific sharpening that gets applied.



Jan 25, 2024 at 09:38 AM
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p.2 #9 · A9iii Images


I can't see any difference in how the EVF works compared to the A1. It still drops quality of the live view feed sometimes and this can even be caused by your shutter speed and the feed is effected when you shoot a burst. Frame rate may also change while shooting bursts.

How this works is actually not trivial, there are up to 3 streams that needs to be read at the same time while shooting: live view, autofocus data and image data. Live view may sometimes be based on the image stream while bursting but not always (for instance if you shoot 10fps the live view stream still retains FPS, on the other hand if you shoot slow exposures then suddenly the exposure time and frame rate for live view becomes the same as for the images so then both are most likely from image stream).

It sounds like what Nikon does is place priority on the live view feed. That limits timing and bandwidth for the other streams and can potentionally be part of the reason it is limited to 20fps. If it has just started to read a live view frame it would have to wait until that is complete before it can start to expose the image for instance.

Sony on the other hand seem to prioritize shooting images over the quality of live view, in the A9III there is even an option to insert a black frame in the live view feed when starting to shoot a burst in order to reduce shutter lag

As long as it doesn't get in the way and hides what happens from me I personally think Sony probably makes the best choice here.



Jan 25, 2024 at 04:18 PM
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p.2 #10 · A9iii Images


duncang wrote:
I learned something new today. DxO PL7 seems to rely on the optics modules for some sharpening - someone pointed out that the low ISO images in particular looked a bit oof. I restarted DxO and they seem to be looking a bit better now.

If anyone is interested I created a python script to batch modify the A9M3 files to A9M2 files so DxO PL will process them normally. The optics modules failed to load initially but I thought I could just ignore them - a bit surprising that they have lens specific sharpening that gets applied.


The reason DXO has arguably the best sharpening algorithms and lens correction is because they are lens specific and lots of manual labor goes into their creation - that is why there is sometimes a ridiculously long wait for profiles to materialize depending on product availability. More generic profiles like what Adobe offers are available almost right away for new products.

DXO's sharpening is proportionate to the lens' sharpness falloff from center to the edges, which is why it has to be lens specific. For example on a cheaper lens, sharpening is applied more aggressively as you move out from the center of the frame compared to an exotic prime where there is barely any sharpness falloff as you move out from the center of the image. Every other program applies sharpening either globally, or at least not proportionately though the frame.

DXO actually builds an all new RAW file from the ground up if you are using their RAW converter or Pure RAW - that is how they get the NR so perfect and is part of the reason why it doesn't have blotchy NR, artificing, or edge detection issues like Topaz is famous for, particularly with fine details like stray hairs or fine feather detail. It is not completely flawless but the reason it works as well as it does is also the reason why sometimes it takes them forever to release profiles for new equipment.



Jan 25, 2024 at 06:54 PM
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p.2 #11 · A9iii Images


Thanks for sharing, interesting results.

Does C1 Pro already support the a9III?



Jan 25, 2024 at 08:14 PM
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p.2 #12 · A9iii Images


arbitrage wrote:
Anytime you lift off the shutter on the A1 (or any other Sony camera) you will see the image jump ahead to the live feed. The faster the sensor read the less this is noticeable so the A1 is the least noticeable of all the cameras (up until the A9III). Canon R3 does this much worse than A1...R5 worse so (due to non-stacked sensor). The only camera I've shot to date that does away with this is the Z9/Z8. Based on Sony's marketing I think the A9III probably eliminates this also. Is this a big deal in shooting the A1?....no,
...Show more

I took careful note today while shooting swallows and I can see no difference when shooting regardless of what buttons get pressed. Everything seems completely smooth, no stuttering, jumps or anything else before, during and after pressing the shutter button.




Jan 26, 2024 at 05:55 AM
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p.2 #13 · A9iii Images


duncang wrote:
Can't be used for landscape they said...


"They" are frequently wrong.



Jan 26, 2024 at 03:45 PM
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p.2 #14 · A9iii Images


You're going to need one of these...

I think I might keep the A1 for landscapes

Weeks with the A1, hours with the A9iii

https://duncangroenewald.com/img/photos/2024-01-26/Sony_Alpha_9_III_ for_wildlife_preview.jpg



Jan 26, 2024 at 07:01 PM
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p.2 #15 · A9iii Images


A black necked grebe. I'm finding the A9 111 hard to put down, so much fun.

http://www.wildphotolife.co.uk/st-aidans-2024-feb-mar/images/_DSC5336_ARW_2_220324.jpg

A9 III, 600mm f/4, 1/2000th at F/4 ISO 800




Mar 23, 2024 at 04:30 AM
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p.2 #16 · A9iii Images


I shoot some sports but the A9II and A1 work fine for me. The global shutter does have me considering the A9III for strobe work. New or used there doesn't seem to be a strong market for the camera.


Mar 23, 2024 at 09:56 AM
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p.2 #17 · A9iii Images


Spent a few hours out shooting with the A9III yesterday, trying to decide if the camera is for me. I'll have a few words and a few more images in a day or so.




  ILCE-9M3    FE 600mm F4 GM OSS lens    600mm    f/6.3    1/3200s    800 ISO    0.0 EV  






  ILCE-9M3    FE 200-600mm F5.6-6.3 G OSS lens    600mm    f/6.3    1/3200s    1000 ISO    0.0 EV  




Apr 18, 2024 at 10:39 PM
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p.2 #18 · A9iii Images


w/ 200-600 G

DSC09323 by D.C. 83, on Flickr



Apr 19, 2024 at 12:41 PM
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DSC03795-Edit by D.C. 83, on Flickr

DSC03478 by D.C. 83, on Flickr


DSC04397 by D.C. 83, on Flickr

DSC05413-Edit by D.C. 83, on Flickr



Apr 19, 2024 at 12:45 PM
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p.2 #20 · A9iii Images


David83 wrote:
w/ 200-600 G

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53654717979_b549d77f0e_h.jpgDSC09323 by D.C. 83, on Flickr


Nice BeeIF image!



Apr 19, 2024 at 01:57 PM
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