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p.1 #1 · Laowa AF 10mm f2.8 for Full Frame?


Does anyone know if this is real? If so, I definitely want one!

https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/officially-announced-new-laowa-10mm-f-2-8-full-frame-af-e-mount-lens/

Edited to add to Canon Forum as it's rumored to be available for Canon and Nikon as well.

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Dec 29, 2023 at 06:56 PM
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p.1 #2 · Laowa AF 10mm f2.8 for Full Frame?


Looks real, and sweet! If it's any good I'm definitely getting one. Glad to see them getting in the autofocus game as well. Maybe they can make a version 2 of their 15/2 with AF.


Dec 29, 2023 at 10:41 PM
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p.1 #3 · Laowa AF 10mm f2.8 for Full Frame?


They have been discussing release of this for about a month - price 850$. If this is as sharp or sharper than the Low 9/5.6 - and AF is accurate (slow is fine at this FL) - I will be picking one up.


Dec 29, 2023 at 11:27 PM
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p.1 #4 · Laowa AF 10mm f2.8 for Full Frame?


Definitely got me intrigued, for my Z9 (and this really should have been cross posted to the Nikon and Canon board as the lens is announced in all FF ML mounts).


Dec 30, 2023 at 03:49 AM
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p.1 #5 · Laowa AF 10mm f2.8 for Full Frame?


Laowa 10/2.8 FF comes in two versions: 5-blade aperture and 14-blade aperture.

AF versions:E/Z (5-blade aperture)
MF versions:E/Z/RF/L( 14-blade aperture ),and RF/L (5-blade aperture)

https://cglens.com/camera-lens-80
The English website has not been updated yet.
https://cglens.com/Public/Uploads/uploadfile/images/20231228/weixintupian_20231228151736.jpg



Dec 30, 2023 at 04:22 AM
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p.1 #6 · Laowa AF 10mm f2.8 for Full Frame?


I'm sure BastianK will review it somewhere after the holidays? The lens does look quite decent from what I've seen for a good price, with rather attractive sunstars.


Dec 30, 2023 at 06:03 AM
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p.1 #7 · Laowa AF 10mm f2.8 for Full Frame?


I might consider this over their 9mm f/5.6 that I currently own. There are three reasons for that; one can use focus bracketing with it since it has autofocus, it's 2 stops faster, and it takes circular filters. Although it's rarely needed to focus stack such a wide lens due to its deep depth of field, it comes in handy for some close-up landscape images.
10mm is fine for me; I went for the Laowa 9mm f/5.6 over the Voigtländer 10mm f/5.6, as it's optically superior.

I just purchased 3 GM zooms; 12-24, 24-70 II and 70-200 II, but I might go back to 16-35 G or 17-50 and 50-400, and then pair them with this 10 AF. The purchase of the f/2.8 zooms was more GAS, and I rather just bring 2 lenses for landscape, and occasionally bring the 10mm when needed. This kit will both be cheaper and more versatile for my use. The 12-24 GM pushed me towards a whole GM set, as it and the 12-24 G (which is good at best) were the only lenses beyond 14mm with autofocus on Sony FE. But this 10mm should be good enough.
My dream wide angle zoom would be anything between 10 and 14mm to 35 and 50mm, though, to pair with the 50-400.

I'm glad that Laowa is producing autofocus lenses. I hope that they will put autofocus in their macro lenses as well. It would be lovely to have a 2x macro lens with autofocus, so that it can be used with focus bracketing. Currently, it's only possible to 1x on Sony FE, and I don't want to add another system just for some occasional macro. Olympus got some tempting options, though.

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Dec 30, 2023 at 06:20 AM
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p.1 #8 · Laowa AF 10mm f2.8 for Full Frame?



He’s already in the process of reviewing it.

Alan Parker wrote:
I'm sure BastianK will review it somewhere after the holidays? The lens does look quite decent from what I've seen for a good price, with rather attractive sunstars.




Dec 30, 2023 at 07:35 AM
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p.1 #9 · Laowa AF 10mm f2.8 for Full Frame?




IlyaSnopchenko wrote:
Definitely got me intrigued, for my Z9 (and this really should have been cross posted to the Nikon and Canon board as the lens is announced in all FF ML mounts).


Thanks for the suggestion! I was only able to add it to one other board, so I chose the Canon forum. 3rd party choices are slim to non-existent in RF mount, so this might be the start of a great new trend!



Dec 30, 2023 at 08:21 AM
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p.1 #10 · Laowa AF 10mm f2.8 for Full Frame?


@olalafoto, which one produces the sun stars on the left? Those are part of the reason for my intrigue.


Dec 30, 2023 at 08:45 AM
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p.1 #11 · Laowa AF 10mm f2.8 for Full Frame?


I am more inclined to the https://phillipreeve.net/blog/review-brightin-star-9mm-5-6/

Its 9mm, has back filter, and is the same as the 7artisians 9mm f5.6 - quite good. And $500

AF is not my thing in uwa lens. They typically have really big dof without focus bracketing and I would not use a super wide that much.

My widest lens is laowa 12 but sometimes the mountains are too close even for it. And the back screw in 10 stop is a great feature.

[after posting link I searched brightinstsar and it indicated fraud website. Strange philipreeve site refers to it. Usually reliable. Any use at your own risk.

further - the author in the link indicated that he is confident in the brightin star link. it is a reputable reviewer. ]

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Dec 30, 2023 at 08:53 AM
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p.1 #12 · Laowa AF 10mm f2.8 for Full Frame?


5-blade aperture

Dultimate wrote:
@olalafoto@, which one produces the sun stars on the left? Those are part of the reason for my intrigue.




Dec 30, 2023 at 09:53 AM
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p.1 #13 · Laowa AF 10mm f2.8 for Full Frame?


olalafoto wrote:
5-blade aperture

Nice!!



Dec 30, 2023 at 09:58 AM
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p.1 #14 · Laowa AF 10mm f2.8 for Full Frame?


Thank you. It's really odd that this lens appears to have AF in E and Z mounts but not RF or L? So the deal is not as attractive for the latter two, unfortunately.

snegron7 wrote:
Thanks for the suggestion! I was only able to add it to one other board, so I chose the Canon forum. 3rd party choices are slim to non-existent in RF mount, so this might be the start of a great new trend!




Dec 30, 2023 at 01:08 PM
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p.1 #15 · Laowa AF 10mm f2.8 for Full Frame?


Found some reviews,good sharpness and contrast, but very high vignetting.

F2.8
http://dingyue.ws.126.net/2023/1230/276aa2aej00s6he0n002lc000sg00izm.jpg


100% corner ( LR LoCAs correction )
http://dingyue.ws.126.net/2023/1230/b6bc2fcdj00s6he0n0026c000sg00izm.jpg


Left: Center, Right: Corner
https://am.zdmimg.com/202312/29/658e2919c8a78282.jpg_e1080.jpg



Dec 30, 2023 at 09:37 PM
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p.1 #16 · Laowa AF 10mm f2.8 for Full Frame?


olalafoto wrote:

Found some reviews,good sharpness and contrast, but very high vignetting.

F2.8
http://dingyue.ws.126.net/2023/1230/276aa2aej00s6he0n002lc000sg00izm.jpg


100% corner ( LR LoCAs correction )
http://dingyue.ws.126.net/2023/1230/b6bc2fcdj00s6he0n0026c000sg00izm.jpg


Left: Center, Right: Corner
https://am.zdmimg.com/202312/29/658e2919c8a78282.jpg_e1080.jpg


Looks good. I think sharpness and contrast are what we're wanting. Vignetting is easily corrected and should be somewhat expected at this FL and aperture combination.



Dec 30, 2023 at 10:04 PM
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p.1 #17 · Laowa AF 10mm f2.8 for Full Frame?


About vignetting, maybe that's the cost of the non-bulbous front element.

Dultimate wrote:
Looks good. I think sharpness and contrast are what we're wanting. Vignetting is easily corrected and should be somewhat expected at this FL and aperture combination.





Dec 30, 2023 at 10:42 PM
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p.1 #18 · Laowa AF 10mm f2.8 for Full Frame?


Well, I would have expected 4+ stops of vignetting just by looking at the specs and the picture of the lens itself... :-)


Dec 31, 2023 at 01:21 AM
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p.1 #19 · Laowa AF 10mm f2.8 for Full Frame?


olalafoto wrote:
About vignetting, maybe that's the cost of the non-bulbous front element.

That's another appealing attribute.



Dec 31, 2023 at 06:38 PM
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p.1 #20 · Laowa AF 10mm f2.8 for Full Frame?


Alan Parker wrote:
I'm sure BastianK will review it somewhere after the holidays? The lens does look quite decent from what I've seen for a good price, with rather attractive sunstars.
He posted on FB about having the lens already



Dec 31, 2023 at 07:56 PM
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