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p.1 #1 · Sony A9III - Thoughts from bird and fast action shooters


With the new A9III coming out early next year I'd like to hear from experienced bird and fast action shooters as to their thoughts on this, at least according to Sony, revolutionary camera. I'm coming to Sony from the Canon world where I shot a 5DMarkIV and a 1DxII for a long time. I just received my Sony A7RV and I'm looking for the "other" Sony camera to replace the fast 1DxII.

Thoughts and constructive comments much appreciated!




Dec 01, 2023 at 11:16 AM
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p.1 #2 · Sony A9III - Thoughts from bird and fast action shooters


For my personal use as a wildlife photographer (primarily birds, no video), the crop-ability of the a1 outweighs the advantages of the a9III's global shutter. The a1 has been plenty fast enough with accurate focus for erratically flying passerines, and the readout speed with the silent shutter is fast enough that I haven't seen any rolling shutter distortion. The flippy screen is one a9III feature I'd like. All photos: a1, 600 GM.

http://www.wildlightphoto.com/birds/tyrannidae/tyrannus/verticalis/tyrver09.jpg


http://www.wildlightphoto.com/birds/laniidae/lanius/ludovicianus/lanlud06.jpg


http://www.wildlightphoto.com/birds/hirundinidae/petrochelidon/pyrrhonota/petpyr06.jpg


http://www.wildlightphoto.com/birds/ptiliogonatidae/phainopepla/nitens/phanit14.jpg



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Dec 01, 2023 at 11:42 AM
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p.1 #3 · Sony A9III - Thoughts from bird and fast action shooters


My guess is that there will be worse DR and low light performance, which are more important to good bird photography IMHO than having 120FPS.


Dec 01, 2023 at 11:53 AM
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p.1 #4 · Sony A9III - Thoughts from bird and fast action shooters


You won’t see that many bird photographers opt for a9 iii over the excellent A1.


Dec 01, 2023 at 12:36 PM
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p.1 #5 · Sony A9III - Thoughts from bird and fast action shooters


I'd prefer an A1II with regular rolling shutter stacked sensor, 60FPS or more, preshooting and at least one CF express type B slot of most recent specification.


Dec 01, 2023 at 01:22 PM
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p.1 #6 · Sony A9III - Thoughts from bird and fast action shooters


You're probably never getting a CFE Type B slot in a Sony body.
randomguy wrote:
I'd prefer an A1II with regular rolling shutter stacked sensor, 60FPS or more, preshooting and at least one CF express type B slot of most recent specification.





Dec 01, 2023 at 01:31 PM
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p.1 #7 · Sony A9III - Thoughts from bird and fast action shooters


JadedWriter wrote:
You're probably never getting a CFE Type B slot in a Sony body.



I believe we will if there is sufficient demand for it. Besides there is competition on CFA now, they can't expect to sell those card at absurd prices anymore.



Dec 01, 2023 at 08:15 PM
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p.1 #8 · Sony A9III - Thoughts from bird and fast action shooters


I shoot collegiate ultimate frisbee quite a lot and have dabbled in bird photography. I'm currently shooting with the OG A9 but looking to upgrade soon. For frisbee, Pre-capture and AiAF subject tracking would make me select the A9iii. For birds, I'd prefer the resolution of the A1. Since the other 75%+ of my photography is travel (113 days on the road in 2023 not counting Vermont and Utah ski weekends, 53 cities visited according to Tripit), I'm going with the A1. If I shot frisbee for a living, definitely A9iii


Dec 01, 2023 at 10:27 PM
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p.1 #9 · Sony A9III - Thoughts from bird and fast action shooters


If 24MP is enough then I'd buy the A9III every day of the week and twice on Sundays over an A1. That is the only spec that is significantly different (worse?) than the A1. Every other thing about the A9III should best the A1. I guess the only other unknown is the possible hit to DR and noise performance over the A1 sensor or a traditional 20-odd MP FF sensor like 1DXII or A9II etc.


Dec 02, 2023 at 07:54 AM
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p.1 #10 · Sony A9III - Thoughts from bird and fast action shooters


jwalker wrote:
With the new A9III coming out early next year I'd like to hear from experienced bird and fast action shooters as to their thoughts on this, at least according to Sony, revolutionary camera. I'm coming to Sony from the Canon world where I shot a 5DMarkIV and a 1DxII for a long time. I just received my Sony A7RV and I'm looking for the "other" Sony camera to replace the fast 1DxII.

Thoughts and constructive comments much appreciated!



If I could afford the A1? I'd have one in hand and it would probably be my last camera. But being retired I had to "settle" for the A7IV. Which I'm fine with.

As for the A9III? Not for me. I'm sure the pro sports photograhers will get one and a few on FM that will buy it and try it out.

On a Facebook page i'm no longer part of, I was demeaned and condescended by others because I brought up some questions regarding the A9III and didn't fall in line with what looked to me those people having sexual fantasies about the camera. I was told I could have my opinion but oh boy! Not true.

I agree with a comment above that the A1 would be a better choice for wildlife and a general all around camera.



Dec 02, 2023 at 08:59 AM
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p.1 #11 · Sony A9III - Thoughts from bird and fast action shooters


As a wildlife and sports shooter and a A1 user I will not be rushing out to order a A9iii. There is nothing on there to excite me and at 24mp its half what I have now.


Dec 02, 2023 at 03:15 PM
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p.1 #12 · Sony A9III - Thoughts from bird and fast action shooters


I have the A1 and while very happy with it, I always keep an eye on the latest technology. For BIF and wildlife, the A1 is better in my opinion, because higher MP provides for more ability to crop in for birds and animals that are further away (as they usually are). It is plenty fast to avoid rolling shutter. The A1 offers 30 fps, which again is more than enough for me. I don’t like or need to scan through hundreds more photos of virtually the same shots.


Dec 02, 2023 at 03:26 PM
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p.1 #13 · Sony A9III - Thoughts from bird and fast action shooters


That snake photo is mental! Nice one

telyt wrote:

For my personal use as a wildlife photographer (primarily birds), no video, the crop-ability of the a1 outweighs the advantages of the a9III's global shutter. The a1 has been plenty fast enough with accurate focus for erratically flying passerines, and the readout speed with the silent shutter is fast enough that I haven't seen any rolling shutter distortion. The flippy screen is one a9III feature I'd like.

http://www.wildlightphoto.com/birds/tyrannidae/tyrannus/verticalis/tyrver09.jpg


http://www.wildlightphoto.com/birds/laniidae/lanius/ludovicianus/lanlud06.jpg


http://www.wildlightphoto.com/birds/hirundinidae/petrochelidon/pyrrhonota/petpyr06.jpg


http://www.wildlightphoto.com/birds/ptiliogonatidae/phainopepla/nitens/phanit14.jpg





Dec 02, 2023 at 03:34 PM
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p.1 #14 · Sony A9III - Thoughts from bird and fast action shooters


telyt wrote:
For my personal use as a wildlife photographer (primarily birds)...


Instant like on the imagery. Wonderful.




Dec 02, 2023 at 11:47 PM
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p.1 #15 · Sony A9III - Thoughts from bird and fast action shooters


I think it's an A1 companion, there are situations when the pre capture is very desirable, an excellent tool to have.


Dec 03, 2023 at 12:17 AM
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p.1 #16 · Sony A9III - Thoughts from bird and fast action shooters


jwalker wrote:
With the new A9III coming out early next year I'd like to hear from experienced bird and fast action shooters as to their thoughts on this, at least according to Sony, revolutionary camera. I'm coming to Sony from the Canon world where I shot a 5DMarkIV and a 1DxII for a long time. I just received my Sony A7RV and I'm looking for the "other" Sony camera to replace the fast 1DxII.

Thoughts and constructive comments much appreciated!



A9 III will be a superb replacement for your 1DX II. The pre-capture feature will allow you to create shots that are close to impossible on other cameras without that feature. I'd say that is way more of a game-changer (for Sony that is, as it was available with other brands earlier) than the global shutter.

Since you're coming from larger DSLRs, I'd say overall, most things are better, except ergos (IMHO). Sony (and their fans) insist that the size is perfect for their cameras, but suspiciously the camera bodies keep getting bigger and less boxier every generation. Go figure



Dec 03, 2023 at 03:23 AM
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p.1 #17 · Sony A9III - Thoughts from bird and fast action shooters


Thanks to all who have contributed their thoughts to my question! Please continue if anyone has an objective opinion on this.

JW



Dec 03, 2023 at 10:58 AM
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p.1 #18 · Sony A9III - Thoughts from bird and fast action shooters


I currently have one on pre-order. I think for certain types of bird photography it could be a very useful tool. Even with the A1, there times where I would really love both the pre-capture and a faster fps rate--two that immediately come to mind are diving ospreys, eagles and other birds, and hummingbird photography. It could be a perfect pairing with an A1 in these situations.

I'm hoping it arrives in late February as I head to Colombia in March for some hummingbird photography.



Dec 03, 2023 at 02:12 PM
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p.1 #19 · Sony A9III - Thoughts from bird and fast action shooters


i think A1 is the perfect camera for everything, its like a canon 1dhs! (if u guys remember).


Dec 03, 2023 at 04:21 PM
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p.1 #20 · Sony A9III - Thoughts from bird and fast action shooters


Agreed. Going from 50mpx to 24mpx is startling. I couldn't do it... Matter of fact I sold my A9mkii immediately after using the A1. Resolution is important because you really never have enough reach when Birding. Furthermore, the A1 sensor readout is plenty fast where rolling shutter is not an issue along with blackout free evf. I don't feel any need to move to A9M3 over a global shutter or pre capture. Matter of fact the A1 mkii will need to be another game changer or I will probably skip that body for a while. Pretty pleased with my A1


ICee wrote:
As a wildlife and sports shooter and a A1 user I will not be rushing out to order a A9iii. There is nothing on there to excite me and at 24mp its half what I have now.




Dec 03, 2023 at 04:22 PM
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