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p.33 #1 · p.33 #1 · Voigtlander for Nikon Image Thread


Yes, the Nikon 58mm f/1.4 G and the Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 are similar in that wide open they are both dreamy and soft and stopped down are very sharp. I wouldn't be without either.

Conversely I've no interest in the Voigtlander 35mm APO, just not my bag.

Each to their own.




Aug 07, 2024 at 02:04 AM
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p.33 #2 · p.33 #2 · Voigtlander for Nikon Image Thread


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I’ve got a chance to buy a 35/2. I had been thinking about the 40/1.2 but I keep straying back to the 35/2. My main purpose for the lens would be for use on my Zf as a walk around lens in the U.K. countryside and historic properties & towns. Colour, 3D pop and resolution are drawing me to the 35/2…any thoughts on my preference?

I’m trying to discount that the 40/1.2 is lighter and smaller as ultimately I need the right photographic characteristics from the lens for my use case.


Buy the APO.




Aug 07, 2024 at 02:31 AM
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p.33 #3 · p.33 #3 · Voigtlander for Nikon Image Thread


KLaban wrote:
Buy the APO.


Here’s the turmoil I have..

I do like the colour I see in many of the APO photos but after a while I feel it can be a little over-saturated. Of course I can detune it in post or with Picture Controls when I use jpg. 3D pop is great occasionally but would I want it for a large percentage of my photos? Ie how important is it in reality….sure it’s nice to have.

The 40mm does the dreamy look wide open. This would be useful occasionally and when I don’t want it I’d stop down. But….when I stop down say f4 to f8 how good is the lens vs the Nikon 40mm f2 or 50mm f1.8? I have both those Z lenses. Most of the photos I see of the 40mm are wide open. In part I want a Voigtlander for its tactile nature but only if the IQ stopped down is good or even excellent - this I feel is the crunch point for my decision.




Aug 07, 2024 at 03:54 AM
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p.33 #4 · p.33 #4 · Voigtlander for Nikon Image Thread


You buy the 40/1.2 to shoot it between 1.2 and 1.8.

APO is fantastic at any aperture.

To me they are totally different lenses for totally different use cases.



Aug 07, 2024 at 08:08 AM
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p.33 #5 · p.33 #5 · Voigtlander for Nikon Image Thread


Clivem2 wrote:
Here’s the turmoil I have..

I do like the colour I see in many of the APO photos but after a while I feel it can be a little over-saturated. Of course I can detune it in post or with Picture Controls when I use jpg. 3D pop is great occasionally but would I want it for a large percentage of my photos? Ie how important is it in reality….sure it’s nice to have.

The 40mm does the dreamy look wide open. This would be useful occasionally and when I don’t want it I’d stop down. But….when I stop down say f4
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Clive, you have a PM.




Aug 07, 2024 at 08:56 AM
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p.33 #6 · p.33 #6 · Voigtlander for Nikon Image Thread


I think the over saturation with the 35/2 APO that you see sometimes is the result of post processing. Out of the camera it does not have that over saturated look.I think that saturation but also clarity was increased in several pictures that I see here.

Clivem2 wrote:
Here’s the turmoil I have..

I do like the colour I see in many of the APO photos but after a while I feel it can be a little over-saturated. Of course I can detune it in post or with Picture Controls when I use jpg. 3D pop is great occasionally but would I want it for a large percentage of my photos? Ie how important is it in reality….sure it’s nice to have.

The 40mm does the dreamy look wide open. This would be useful occasionally and when I don’t want it I’d stop down. But….when I stop down say f4
...Show more



Aug 07, 2024 at 11:24 AM
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p.33 #7 · p.33 #7 · Voigtlander for Nikon Image Thread


"I think the over saturation with the 35/2 APO that you see sometimes is the result of post processing. Out of the camera it does not have that over saturated look.I think that saturation but also clarity was increased in several pictures that I see here."

Frankly many images I see on this forum border on slidercide!



Aug 07, 2024 at 11:52 AM
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p.33 #8 · p.33 #8 · Voigtlander for Nikon Image Thread


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Nikon Zf CV 50mm f1

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53907303631_34400ca87b_k.jpgSunset Cowgirl 1 Final (1 of 1) by Christopher Rankin, on Flickr

Really considering picking up the CV 75mm f1.5 in Z mount as well.


Refreshing to see some subtlety here!




Aug 07, 2024 at 01:01 PM
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p.33 #9 · p.33 #9 · Voigtlander for Nikon Image Thread


RoamingScott wrote:
You buy the 40/1.2 to shoot it between 1.2 and 1.8.

APO is fantastic at any aperture.

To me they are totally different lenses for totally different use cases.

My take on the reasons for a 40/1.2
- shoot for its character f1.2 to f1.8
- f2 and higher - shoot as a typical lens eg Z 40/2 or 50/1.8
- small, quite light, very well made; makes a very nice walk around lens on the Zf

The above assessment is following my taking some test shots with a 40/1.2 and my 40/2 then checking photos at home on my computer. Ultimately I’m mostly interested in a walk around lens that’s well made and compact. 40mm is pretty much the perfect FL but I’m not convinced the 40/1.2 justifies what it would cost me given I have Z 40 and 50 already. 35mm APO would be ok. 50mm APO might work but is just a bit long in terms of FL and actually a tad shorter physically than the 35mm.

From my personal perspective I feel the 35mm APO has a lot of appeal though I’ve not seen one in the flesh but as a walk around lens often on my Zf it might be a little longer than I’d like. However this view might not be correct as the lens is narrower than most Nikon lenses so the issue I have with length could be more of an optical illusion. It is a little shorter than the Z 50/1.8. Normally I would obsess about physical lens size but for a lens that’ll be on the camera most of the time, it’s important.



Aug 08, 2024 at 04:11 AM
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p.33 #10 · p.33 #10 · Voigtlander for Nikon Image Thread


Compared to the Z 50/1.8 S, the CV 35/2 AL-Z is much more compact.
It is not only the length, 67mm vs. 87mm, but with identical focal length and the CV 50/2 AL-Z it is even 61mm vs. 87mm.
In addition, the Z 50/1.8 S is significantly thicker in circumference.
Even my Canon FD 85/1.2 L looks downright dainty compared to the Z 50/1.8 S, if you consider the key data 85/1.2 vs. 50/1.8.

Left Z 50/1.8 S, middle nFD 85/1.2 L, right CV 35/2 AL-Z.
CV35/2 AL-Z by Vento, auf Flickr

The differences are considerable in practice.
The 35/2 Apo Lanthar still feels really compact and liberating in terms of dimensions, unlike the Z 50/1.8 S in comparison, which is quite bulky for a 50mm f/1.8 and has a different presence in use.

If 50mm weren't underused by me, especially as the Z 50/1.8 S doesn't leave much to complain about optically and I also own various vintage lenses in this focal length range, Tomioka 55/1.4, Biotar 58/2 with 12 aperture blades + A. Schacht Ulm M-Travenar 50mm f/2.8 R (Zebra), the CV 50/2 AL-Z would be an absolute no-brainer.
Although optically excellent for the price, I never really warmed to the Z 50/1.8 S.
As I said, it's not because of the output, but because it's simply far too bulky for an f/1.8 50mm.

When I use the Apo Lanthar on the Z6, it really feels like a very compact unit.
Extremely carefree, light and very compact.
With the Z 50/1.8 S this feeling never arises, it simply always feels clearly too big for a 50mm of this speed and never gives rise to this liberating minimalism, as with an Apo Lanthar or one of my tiny vintage optics such as the Takumar 35/3.5.

I generally have no problem with big chunks if the end result justifies it, otherwise I wouldn't have bought the Plena.
It just has to fit the key data and a 135mm f/1.8 has the corresponding substance.
Weight and dimensions feel right with the Plena, but not with the Z 50/1.8 S.
Accordingly, it is used very little, as the Apo Lanthar is simply always much more satisfying to use, in terms of compactness and also when viewing the final results.



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p.33 #11 · p.33 #11 · Voigtlander for Nikon Image Thread


My two walk around lenses are Voigtlander Z mount 40mm f/1.2 and Nikon Z 40mm f/2, both particularly useful when shooting in those locations where discretion is key and where photography can and does offend. One MF and one AF. Both very compact and lightweight. The Voigtlander serves both as a characterful and exceptionally sharp lens.

My Z 50mm f/1.8 S and Z 85mm f/1.8 S rarely get a look in on location these days.




Aug 08, 2024 at 05:21 AM
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p.33 #12 · p.33 #12 · Voigtlander for Nikon Image Thread


Vento wrote:
Compared to the Z 50/1.8 S, the CV 35/2 AL-Z is much more compact.
It is not only the length, 67mm vs. 87mm, but with identical focal length and the CV 50/2 AL-Z it is even 61mm vs. 87mm.
In addition, the Z 50/1.8 S is significantly thicker in circumference.
Even my Canon FD 85/1.2 L looks downright dainty compared to the Z 50/1.8 S, if you consider the key data 85/1.2 vs. 50/1.8.

Left Z 50/1.8 S, middle nFD 85/1.2 L, right CV 35/2 AL-Z.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52402904673_e5f4fd4ed6_o.jpgCV35/2 AL-Z by Vento, auf Flickr

The differences are considerable in practice.
The 35/2 Apo Lanthar still feels really compact and
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Thank you @Vento that’s very helpful. Circumference matters! I’ve put my Ai 50 1.8 on with an adapter, it’s about the same total size as the 35mm APO and yes it small, not as small as the 40/1.2 but small enough.



Aug 08, 2024 at 05:25 AM
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p.33 #13 · p.33 #13 · Voigtlander for Nikon Image Thread


Thank you everyone who helped with your views. I’m now financially poorer but tomorrow should be optically richer.

The 35mm I’ve ordered was the only one (likely the last one) I could find in the U.K.



Aug 08, 2024 at 06:14 AM
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p.33 #14 · p.33 #14 · Voigtlander for Nikon Image Thread


KLaban wrote:
"I think the over saturation with the 35/2 APO that you see sometimes is the result of post processing. Out of the camera it does not have that over saturated look.I think that saturation but also clarity was increased in several pictures that I see here."

Frankly many images I see on this forum border on slidercide!


Life is far more colorful than a dull RAW file would have you believe.



Aug 08, 2024 at 09:47 AM
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p.33 #15 · p.33 #15 · Voigtlander for Nikon Image Thread


RoamingScott wrote:
Life is far more colorful than a dull RAW file would have you believe.


Sadly, all too often, the oversaturated, over sharpened and extremely contrasty jpg files shown here have little in common with life.

But, as I've said, each to their own.




Aug 08, 2024 at 11:24 AM
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p.33 #16 · p.33 #16 · Voigtlander for Nikon Image Thread


Clivem2 wrote:
Thank you everyone who helped with your views. I’m now financially poorer but tomorrow should be optically richer.

The 35mm I’ve ordered was the only one (likely the last one) I could find in the U.K.


Clive, enjoy your new lens!




Aug 08, 2024 at 11:33 AM
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p.33 #17 · p.33 #17 · Voigtlander for Nikon Image Thread


I am looking forward to the first pictures😊

Clivem2 wrote:
Thank you everyone who helped with your views. I’m now financially poorer but tomorrow should be optically richer.

The 35mm I’ve ordered was the only one (likely the last one) I could find in the U.K.




Aug 08, 2024 at 11:50 AM
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p.33 #18 · p.33 #18 · Voigtlander for Nikon Image Thread


Yes I agree. But at the same time with the APOs it can be too much saturation and clarity quite fast when using the sliders. They only need a little bit. I made (and make) this mistake myself as well from time to time.

RoamingScott wrote:
Life is far more colorful than a dull RAW file would have you believe.




Aug 08, 2024 at 11:57 AM
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p.33 #19 · p.33 #19 · Voigtlander for Nikon Image Thread


58 1.4 came in today. Tried this shot at f/2.2 . I have it on the ZF along with the 35 APO for tomorrow.








Aug 08, 2024 at 10:54 PM
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p.33 #20 · p.33 #20 · Voigtlander for Nikon Image Thread


ustjwenew wrote:
I am looking forward to the first pictures😊


Here are my first two photos with the 35mm APO. Just test shots SOOC, nothing remotely special photographically. Zf with 35mm @ f2, 100 ISO













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