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Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses

  
 
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p.16 #1 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses


Hi, my name is Julian and I live in southern France. I don't have the Zf yet, I wait for the silver edition or the Z6 III (joke). More seriously I wanted to practice with a manual lens before going ahead, that's why I bought the Voigtlander 40 f1.2 very recently.
What camera did you use before and what do you think of the Zf?

Hello julian
I previously had the Z7. Then I switched to Sony. When I picked up the Zf, I had to buy it. I still have the Sony A7r5. Love the Nikon more. Everything in manual mode.
Greetings Martin




Nov 10, 2023 at 02:02 PM
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Hello julian
I previously had the Z7. Then I switched to Sony. When I picked up the Zf, I had to buy it. I still have the Sony A7r5. Love the Nikon more. Everything in manual mode.
Greetings Martin



Coming from 45 and even 60 MP down to 25 and loving it, this is certainly high praise for the Zf, makes you think, I may not wait for the silver edition after all.


Nov 10, 2023 at 05:05 PM
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p.16 #3 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses


I got the ZF and I also have A7R3, wondering why you chose Zf over A7R5?
I have been curious if Sony ever changed their color profile recently (for example on A7R5)?



Nov 10, 2023 at 05:48 PM
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p.16 #4 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses


Does anyone know if a thumb grip for the Zfc could work on the Zf?
Something like this
JJC Metal Thumb Up Rest Hand Grip for Nikon Zfc

Or this
Metal + PU Leather Hot Shoe Thumb Up Grip for Nikon Z fc



Nov 10, 2023 at 06:14 PM
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p.16 #5 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses


To my knowledge, NO!


Nov 10, 2023 at 06:30 PM
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p.16 #6 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses


Thanks for letting me know.
Too bad. I used the thumb grip on every mirrorless camera I owned, will have to wait on that a little longer then.



Nov 10, 2023 at 06:33 PM
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p.16 #7 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses


Just received the camera.
I hear some sort of wobbly noise inside when it's turned off. I think someone here mentioned this already. Is it the IBIS?



Nov 10, 2023 at 07:29 PM
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p.16 #8 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses


pdesopo wrote:
Just received the camera.
I hear some sort of wobbly noise inside when it's turned off. I think someone here mentioned this already. Is it the IBIS?


Yes, there is no locking mechanism on the IBIS unit, so it will make noise when the camera is moved in certain ways. This is similar to how some stabilized lenses have optical units that move around (Canon RF lenses with IS for example). Nikon says this is normal.



Nov 10, 2023 at 08:11 PM
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p.16 #9 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses


Voigtlander 40 f/1.2 on the Zf. Reminds me of a shrunken version of the Voigtlander 50 f/1.

Interesting that many of these Voigtlander Z lenses have hoods with filter threads inside them so that I can attach the hood directly to the lens and still attach a filter without having to stack the hood on top of the filter. What's a bit odd about this is how hard it is to insert the filter into the hood and get the filter threaded. The hood is so narrow, I can't get my hand in there to grab the edges of the filter, so I have to take a microfiber cloth and turn the filter while pinching the filter glass from both sides while trying not to let my fingers slip off the cloth and smudge up the filter.

I did a quick handheld test a close distance – MFD and 1 meter – at f/1.2. These two shots were indoors with very low contrast light, and I was surprised how well the 40 performed here given the size constraints of the lens and the lack of a floating lens unit design. The SA and bokeh fringing are there but not distracting to me, at least not in this exact lighting. It's insane how narrow the DOF is at f/1.2 at the MFD of this lens (30cm). I had to take several shots at MFD because without a tripod, it was almost impossible to properly place the point of focus onto the desired location by moving the camera slightly forward and back and keep it there once it was in the right place. It's very easy at MFD and f/1.2 to think you hit focus and get a false impression of the lens as being weak at MFD wide open. Granted it's not anywhere near as sharp as the current crop of Nikon/Canon/Sony large f/1.2 lenses, but compared to a vintage lens like the Minolta 58 f/1.2, this is much sharper wide open at any distance.










Full images for reference. Left image is the bottom edge of a lampshade.







100% magnification in C1 – MFD on the left, 1m on the right (focus on top object)



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Nov 10, 2023 at 08:30 PM
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Thanks for confirming, @highdesertmesa!

I took the first batch of dummy pictures. I can't help but notice how the camera gets quite warm, especially near the battery, and stays warm even after having turned it off for a while.
I wonder if, again, the IBIS may be the reason, and if so, if it's possible to turn it off.



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pdesopo wrote:
Thanks for confirming, @highdesertmesa@!

I took the first batch of dummy pictures. I can't help but notice how the camera gets quite warm, especially near the battery, and stays warm even after having turned it off for a while.
I wonder if, again, the IBIS may be the reason, and if so, if it's possible to turn it off.


The camera could still be warm if you just charged the battery in-camera, too. I have occasionally noticed the camera get slightly warm, but nowhere near as warm as my X100V or Canon R5 used to get. I do keep my Zf in airplane mode all the time since I don't use the wireless functions, not sure if that helps or not.



Nov 10, 2023 at 08:35 PM
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p.16 #12 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses


Nice, I'll try the airplane mode then!


Nov 10, 2023 at 08:37 PM
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p.16 #13 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses


highdesertmesa wrote:
Voigtlander 40 f/1.2 on the Zf. Reminds me of a shrunken version of the Voigtlander 50 f/1.

Interesting that many of these Voigtlander Z lenses have hoods with filter threads inside them so that I can attach the hood directly to the lens and still attach a filter without having to stack the hood on top of the filter. What's a bit odd about this is how hard it is to insert the filter into the hood and get the filter threaded. The hood is so narrow, I can't get my hand in there to grab the edges of the filter,
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I have wondered for some time if the Voigtlander 40mm 1.2 have a substantial different rendering from the Voigtlander 50mm 1.2?
By judging by some samples here and there, I thought I saw more busy and outlined bokeh, maybe some more swirl, things I like, compared to the 50mm 1.2 that I own.
Having a Zf now, that lens is even more tempting even pricewise, and the questions I had in that regard are coming back.





Nov 11, 2023 at 02:34 AM
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p.16 #14 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses


I just got the Z f (have a Fuji X-E1 that it is replacing, and a bunch of analog Leica gear) along with the TTArtisan 6-bit adapter.
Does anyone know how to disable the "focus distance indicator" that is sometimes shown in manual focus mode? The sliding bar that goes from "flower" to infinity. Obviously it doesn't do anything useful with rangefinder lenses, and even for electronically coupled lenses, I don't see how it's useful, given the lack of actual numbers on it.
I checked the menus and the manual and couldn't find a way to disable it.



Nov 11, 2023 at 06:58 AM
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p.16 #15 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses


From experience, with the Voigtlanders Z, this focus distance indicator is disabled but with TTArtisan it is enabled, go figure!

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Nov 11, 2023 at 09:06 AM
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p.16 #16 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses


It’s useful for telling which direction you’re moving in at least

MrArsGravis wrote:
I just got the Z f (have a Fuji X-E1 that it is replacing, and a bunch of analog Leica gear) along with the TTArtisan 6-bit adapter.
Does anyone know how to disable the "focus distance indicator" that is sometimes shown in manual focus mode? The sliding bar that goes from "flower" to infinity. Obviously it doesn't do anything useful with rangefinder lenses, and even for electronically coupled lenses, I don't see how it's useful, given the lack of actual numbers on it.
I checked the menus and the manual and couldn't find a way to disable it.




Nov 11, 2023 at 09:08 AM
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p.16 #17 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses


MrArsGravis wrote:
I just got the Z f (have a Fuji X-E1 that it is replacing, and a bunch of analog Leica gear) along with the TTArtisan 6-bit adapter.
Does anyone know how to disable the "focus distance indicator" that is sometimes shown in manual focus mode? The sliding bar that goes from "flower" to infinity. Obviously it doesn't do anything useful with rangefinder lenses, and even for electronically coupled lenses, I don't see how it's useful, given the lack of actual numbers on it.
I checked the menus and the manual and couldn't find a way to disable it.


Yeah it’s a bit of a bother, it appears when zooming and disappear when the shot is taken but if not it lingers there, I click the i button twice to make it go but it’s not great of a solution.




Nov 11, 2023 at 09:16 AM
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p.16 #18 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses


Sonnar-7 wrote:
I have wondered for some time if the Voigtlander 40mm 1.2 have a substantial different rendering from the Voigtlander 50mm 1.2?
By judging by some samples here and there, I thought I saw more busy and outlined bokeh, maybe some more swirl, things I like, compared to the 50mm 1.2 that I own.
Having a Zf now, that lens is even more tempting even pricewise, and the questions I had in that regard are coming back.




I've never owned or used the Voigtlander 50 f/1.2. But there are very long review threads here for both lenses with endless sample images.



Nov 11, 2023 at 10:07 AM
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p.16 #19 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses


Burleigh wrote:
From experience, with the Voigtlanders Z, this focus distance indicator is disabled but with TTArtisan it is enabled, go figure!


Display custom settings (D18) I believe , you can have whatever you want displayed. Mine only shows the meter and few bits of info on the bottom. That should be under the Shooting/Display section (the pencil)



Nov 11, 2023 at 12:14 PM
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p.16 #20 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses


Apologies if this had already come up, I’ve read most but not all of the thread.
Does the Z8 have the same ‘ af box that turns green when in focus feature ‘ with MF lenses?



Nov 11, 2023 at 10:29 PM
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