p.15 #1 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
CanadaMark wrote:
It probably has more to do with product hierarchy separation more than anything else. They might also be trying to discourage the user from taking pictures of extremely fast action and dealing with the support side of things when less savvy users think their camera is broken.
The Z6II, which this sensor is likely based on, also topped out at 1/8000. If you look at similar bodies like the Sony A74 and Canon R6 they are also 1/8000. The R5 is also 1/8000. The R6II actually does allow 1/16000 but only in certain shooting modes. It seems to be inline with its peers for the most part.
The Z6II scan rate for 14bit is around 1/20sec which is quite slow. The ZF is supposed to be faster but Nikon doesn't say exactly how much and I don't think objective testing has been done yet with an oscilloscope. The fastest non-stacked sensors I believe are the mid-range Canon bodies around 1/60sec.
Looks like you'll have to get out the ND filters or buy a Z8 ...Show more →
Fujifilm has no problem allowing ES at 1/16K sec. Neither does Leica with the SL2/SL2-S and M11. Fujifilm comes in EFCS shutter mode by default, and that's what keeps the support lines from having to deal with noob questions. I think Leica comes with Hybrid as the default. The Hybrid mode they both offer is great – auto switching to ES only when needed. No ES over 1/8,000 sec. is just an artificial limitation and one of the reasons I have usually strayed away from Canon R cameras for adapted lenses. Thankfully due to stacked and global sensors, this won't be an issue for too long I hope.
In any case, I'd illustrated earlier in the thread you can shoot the Zf with the ISO-pull to "Lo1" and be fine with f/1 in daylight. Perhaps that's better anyway since it's better to have to deal with any negatives of the fake ISO 50 versus getting rolling shutter with ES.
p.15 #2 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
highdesertmesa wrote:
Fujifilm has no problem allowing ES at 1/16K sec. Neither does Leica with the SL2/SL2-S and M11. Fujifilm comes in EFCS shutter mode by default, and that's what keeps the support lines from having to deal with noob questions. I think Leica comes with Hybrid as the default. The Hybrid mode they both offer is great – auto switching to ES only when needed. No ES over 1/8,000 sec. is just an artificial limitation and one of the reasons I have usually strayed away from Canon R cameras for adapted lenses. Thankfully due to stacked and global sensors, this won't be an issue for too long I hope.
In any case, I'd illustrated earlier in the thread you can shoot the Zf with the ISO-pull to "Lo1" and be fine with f/1 in daylight. Perhaps that's better anyway since it's better to have to deal with any negatives of the fake ISO 50 versus getting rolling shutter with ES....Show more →
I had my Xpro3 set up so it would switch to ES once the mechanical speed of 1/8000 had been passed in order to get a correct exposure.
p.15 #3 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
Desmolicious wrote:
I had my Xpro3 set up so it would switch to ES once the mechanical speed of 1/8000 had been passed in order to get a correct exposure.
Fujifilm's hybrid shutter mode is great – starts with EFCS, switches to mechanical at higher speeds to avoid bokeh artifacts, and then switches to ES when the mechanical shutter runs out. I used the GFX in this mode 24/7, and it has a VERY slow ES scan speed – gotta hold still for like five minutes
p.15 #6 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
I think it has been discussed partly already but I tried the TTartisan 6bit adapter on the Zf.
I believe the novelty is to have access to the tracking possibilities which is new to manual lenses.
My interest was more with the confirmation of whatever object I focus on.
It does indeed works, I have a green square that confirms that what I aim is in focus, I think that is new but it might not be much since the previous models gave that indication with the arrows and square without the green box, my f100 film camera could do it.
I’m not downplaying it, I’m really stocked either way for that improvement.
In real situation, it’s great, it gives me a new way of shooting non chiped manual lenses on mirrorless.
I can skip the deciphering of the focus peaking and have a better appreciation of what I’m shooting, and skip a big part of the 100% zooming that make me loose my composition often.
The green box is flimsy and elusive though because the camera can’t know exactly what you want to focus on, I wish it had a setting to lowball the precision and have a broader area of confirmation.
Still it gives me a quick idea of if I’m in focus or not and can zoom to adjust, it’s faster than focus peaking and zooming.
The little annoying thing is that the arrows and circle of the focus assist can’t be adjusted to the direction of rotation of the lens, my Voigtlander lenses don’t go the Nikon way so it’s inverted, any chance there’s a trick to change that in the settings?
The Zf is great, for my taste and my use, it’s all I ever wanted for a mirrorless camera.
p.15 #8 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
RoamingScott wrote:
You should be able to reverse the focus by wire direction in the menu, that might invert the focus assists as well.
Thanks! It works indeed, in the custom menu settings, under f9.
I have the Voigtlander Heliar 50mm on the TTArtisan 6bit adapter and the direction of the arrows of the focus assist matches the focus direction of the lens.
p.15 #9 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
Hello to all, I am new to this forum, I haven’t got the Zf yet, but I’m sorely tempted, I was never interested in the Zfc but the same concept in full frame is something I could have wished for. Meanwhile I thought that such a retro body should be paired with a suitable lens and I set my sight on the Voigtlander Nokton 40 f1.2 Z.
I just received it and I’ve been playing with it on my Z6. This clicking ring and being able to readily check the aperture when picking up the camera provide redolent sensations of days gone by.
Focus confirmation, peaking and enlargement all work well as advertised, though I noticed that I’m losing rangefinder focus distance gauge and >o< focus indicator, no big deal but I’m wondering whether this is a normal behaviour? I haven’t read anything about that in the various reviews that I’ve come across, although to be fair, they only mention the availability of the above three focusing support functions.
p.15 #10 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
Burleigh wrote:
Hello to all, I am new to this forum, I haven’t got the Zf yet, but I’m sorely tempted, I was never interested in the Zfc but the same concept in full frame is something I could have wished for. Meanwhile I thought that such a retro body should be paired with a suitable lens and I set my sight on the Voigtlander Nokton 40 f1.2 Z.
I just received it and I’ve been playing with it on my Z6. This clicking ring and being able to readily check the aperture when picking up the camera provide redolent sensations of days gone by.
Focus confirmation, peaking and enlargement all work well as advertised, though I noticed that I’m losing rangefinder focus distance gauge and >o< focus indicator, no big deal but I’m wondering whether this is a normal behaviour? I haven’t read anything about that in the various reviews that I’ve come across, although to be fair, they only mention the availability of the above three focusing support functions. ...Show more →
Welcome! Have you updated the firmware on your Z6 to the most recent available?
p.15 #11 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
Hi! My Z6 firmware is 3.4 which is Voigtlander’s minimum requirement. I just checked and the latest firmware is now 3.6, do you think this could have any effect ?
p.15 #15 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
Nope, no joy, Z6 updated to latest firmware 3.6 and still no distance gauge nor >o< indicator, again, no big deal, however it would be nice to know whether this is normal. Does anybody on the site, using a similar combination (Z body + Voigtlander Z), observe the same behaviour?
p.15 #17 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
renarou wrote:
Bei meinem Voigtländer für Z habe ich auch keine >0< Anzeige. Nur bei Nikon Objektiven im manuellen Modus.
Gruß Martin
(Spreche leider kein Englisch)
"With my Voigtländer for Z I also have no >0< display. Only with Nikon lenses in manual mode."
Hi Martin & willkommen im Forum. Probier mal https://www.deepl.com/translator - funktioniert in der Regel sehr gut um zwischen Deutsch und English zu übersetzen
p.15 #18 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
fjablo wrote:
"With my Voigtländer for Z I also have no >0< display. Only with Nikon lenses in manual mode."
Hi Martin & willkommen im Forum. Probier mal https://www.deepl.com/translator - funktioniert in der Regel sehr gut um zwischen Deutsch und English zu übersetzen
Danke Martin und Fjablo
Beachten Sie, dass ich bei meinem TTartisan AF 32mm F2.8 Z die Entfernungsanzeige und die >0<-Anzeige habe.
Note that with my TTartisan AF 32mm F2.8 Z, I have the distance gauge and the >0< indicator.
Es tut mir leid, dass ich kein Deutsch spreche, ich verwende Google-Übersetzung.
My apologies I don't speak German, I use google translation
p.15 #20 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
renarou wrote:
Danke für die Unterstützung. Mein Name ist Martin und wohne in der Schweiz.
Habe seit kurzer Zeit die Zf mit dem Voigtländer 40mm f/1.2.
Thanks for the support. My name is Martin and I live in Switzerland.
I've had the ZF with the Voigtländer 40mm f/1.2 for a short time
Hallo, mein Name ist Julian und ich lebe in Südfrankreich. Den Zf habe ich noch nicht, ich warte auf die Silver Edition oder den Z6 III (Witz). Im Ernst, ich wollte mit einem manuellen Objektiv üben, bevor ich loslegte, deshalb habe ich mir vor Kurzem das Voigtländer 40 f1.2 gekauft. Welche Kamera hast du vorher verwendet und was haltet ihr von der Zf?
Hi, my name is Julian and I live in southern France. I don't have the Zf yet, I wait for the silver edition or the Z6 III (joke). More seriously I wanted to practice with a manual lens before going ahead, that's why I bought the Voigtlander 40 f1.2 very recently.
What camera did you use before and what do you think of the Zf?
