p.14 #3 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
gyoung143 wrote:
I think frankly with the image display capabilities of internet and forums anything beyond the display of sharpness at the edges etc (or lack of it) by use of 100% crops, like Fred does here, is lost in jpeg creation, compression algorithms etc.
And indeeed lost on the majority of viewers who only ever look at stuff on a phone or tablet.
We see that all the time, especially with old adapted lenses, where enthusiasm is rife for second or third rank Japanese lenses of the 60s etc that I tried and rejected when originally available as less than the best even on film.
If it looks competent technically then we can think it worth trying, pretty snapshots by 'reviewers' don't tell us much usually.
p.14 #7 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
RoamingScott wrote:
Did you add vignette or is that native?
No, I didn't add it or use any profile correction(I don't see one in Lightroom for this lens) . Wide open it's pretty strong vignette, but clears up a bit as you stop down.
p.14 #11 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
JustShootMe wrote:
ZF CV 50 F1 , I really like this lens , it's just unique
Looks like these could have benefited from the "Lo 1.0" ISO setting to avoid overexposure in the center of the frame at f/1.0 in bright daylight.
Here's what I do so I'm ready for these situations: With Auto ISO switched on, move the dial to "C", then in the menu set "ISO sensitivity" to "Lo 1.0". Now you can put the dial back to ISO 100 for normal shooting and ISO 100 stays the minimum ISO. But when shooting wide apertures in bright daylight, I switch to "C" and have automatic addition of Lo1 ISO to the speeds Auto ISO can choose from.
Just in general, the CV 50 f/1 at f/1 often needs some negative exposure comp to correctly expose the center of the frame.
p.14 #12 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
highdesertmesa wrote:
Looks like these could have benefited from the "Lo 1.0" ISO setting to avoid overexposure in the center of the frame at f/1.0 in bright daylight.
Here's what I do so I'm ready for these situations: With Auto ISO switched on, move the dial to "C", then in the menu set "ISO sensitivity" to "Lo 1.0". Now you can put the dial back to ISO 100 for normal shooting and ISO 100 stays the minimum ISO. But when shooting wide apertures in bright daylight, I switch to "C" and have automatic addition of Lo1 ISO to the speeds Auto ISO can choose from....Show more →
This is where 1/32000 comes in handy on the Z8/Z9!
p.14 #13 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
RoamingScott wrote:
This is where 1/32000 comes in handy on the Z8/Z9!
Yeah, but there is no reason Nikon couldn't add at least 1/16K sec. electronic shutter to the Zf. It's just their unwillingness to do so. Rolling shutter is no worse than it would be at a lower shutter speed with the electronic shutter.
p.14 #14 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
highdesertmesa wrote:
Looks like these could have benefited from the "Lo 1.0" ISO setting to avoid overexposure in the center of the frame at f/1.0 in bright daylight.
Here's what I do so I'm ready for these situations: With Auto ISO switched on, move the dial to "C", then in the menu set "ISO sensitivity" to "Lo 1.0". Now you can put the dial back to ISO 100 for normal shooting and ISO 100 stays the minimum ISO. But when shooting wide apertures in bright daylight, I switch to "C" and have automatic addition of Lo1 ISO to the speeds Auto ISO can choose from.
Just in general, the CV 50 f/1 at f/1 often needs some negative exposure comp to correctly expose the center of the frame....Show more →
Nahhh the answer is to not shoot wide open , there's really no need for it. I only did it to show it can be sharp at F1.
p.14 #15 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
JustShootMe wrote:
Nahhh the answer is to not shoot wide open , there's really no need for it. I only did it to show it can be sharp at F1.
It's still useful for subject isolation in bright light – for street to isolate a single subject or landscape to isolate a single tree, etc. But the effect can be a bit eerie, so I try to use it sparingly.
p.14 #16 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
highdesertmesa wrote:
It's still useful for subject isolation in bright light – for street to isolate a single subject or landscape to isolate a single tree, etc. But the effect can be a bit eerie, so I try to use it sparingly.
It’s unique for sure , makes anything standout when you add in the vignetting as well. I think it’s a love or hate lens , not everyone will like it, but I can guarantee if you shoot with it , there will be a few photos that absolutely wow you. That’s just my opinion, I’m no lens reviewer , just a guy who likes cameras.
p.14 #17 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
JustShootMe wrote:
No, I didn't add it or use any profile correction(I don't see one in Lightroom for this lens) . Wide open it's pretty strong vignette, but clears up a bit as you stop down.
p.14 #18 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
JustShootMe wrote:
It’s unique for sure , makes anything standout when you add in the vignetting as well. I think it’s a love or hate lens , not everyone will like it, but I can guarantee if you shoot with it , there will be a few photos that absolutely wow you. That’s just my opinion, I’m no lens reviewer , just a guy who likes cameras.
I really liked using it on the M11 (no longer own either), so the Z version with the much closer minimum focusing distance really appeals to me. And Camera Quest just put it on sale for $100 off
p.14 #19 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
highdesertmesa wrote:
Yeah, but there is no reason Nikon couldn't add at least 1/16K sec. electronic shutter to the Zf. It's just their unwillingness to do so. Rolling shutter is no worse than it would be at a lower shutter speed with the electronic shutter.
It probably has more to do with product hierarchy separation more than anything else. They might also be trying to discourage the user from taking pictures of extremely fast action and dealing with the support side of things when less savvy users think their camera is broken.
The Z6II, which this sensor is likely based on, also topped out at 1/8000. If you look at similar bodies like the Sony A74 and Canon R6 they are also 1/8000. The R5 is also 1/8000. The R6II actually does allow 1/16000 but only in certain shooting modes. It seems to be inline with its peers for the most part.
The Z6II scan rate for 14bit is around 1/20sec which is quite slow. The ZF is supposed to be faster but Nikon doesn't say exactly how much and I don't think objective testing has been done yet with an oscilloscope. The fastest non-stacked sensors I believe are the mid-range Canon bodies around 1/60sec.
Looks like you'll have to get out the ND filters or buy a Z8
p.14 #20 · Nikon Zf as a platform for adapted/native manual focus lenses
CanadaMark wrote:
It probably has more to do with product hierarchy separation more than anything else. They might also be trying to discourage the user from taking pictures of extremely fast action and dealing with the support side of things when less savvy users think their camera is broken.
The Z6II, which this sensor is likely based on, also topped out at 1/8000. If you look at similar bodies like the Sony A74 and Canon R6 they are also 1/8000. The R5 is also 1/8000. The R6II actually does allow 1/16000 but only in certain shooting modes. It seems to be inline with its peers for the most part.
The Z6II scan rate for 14bit is around 1/20sec which is quite slow. The ZF is supposed to be faster but Nikon doesn't say exactly how much and I don't think objective testing has been done yet with an oscilloscope. The fastest non-stacked sensors I believe are the mid-range Canon bodies around 1/60sec.
Looks like you'll have to get out the ND filters or buy a Z8 ...Show more →
Yeah or not shoot F1 in mid day Texas sun .. It really is extreme. As you said other comparable cameras can't do it either , at least on the full frame side. The latest crop of Fujis can, other than that you gotta get the big boys. No complaints here , F1 is more useful to me in low light.
NIKON Z 850mm f/1 lens50mmf/1.01/125s4000 ISO0.0 EV
