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Archive 2023 · The pitfalls of the high end film P&S

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AmbientMike wrote:
Dude, you're on the beach, you don't need 2.8!!!

f/12 & no exposure compensation kinda reasons I didn't use p&s's much 4.9 is pretty similar to 5.6. Not familiar with the Espio, 24mm + e.c. sound good, but the IQZoom is really nice

This Pentax has lots of metal, very solid, and one of the things I like about the review I posted a link to is that it mentioned it's upscale. might get you closer to a T2 than you'd expect.

I just 'won' a Pentax Espio 24EW. $34 for all metal body with dedicated exp compensation button. For $34 - AKA two beers and a big plate of nachos - I figured why not find out for myself if it is good or junk.

I recently bought a Samsung AF Slim Zoom (the one w the 35-70 zoom) and that frankly is great. But plastic so not lux feeling. But the images are great, and if it dies, there goes $20!

Dec 28, 2023 at 04:26 PM

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lifeandmylens wrote:
Thanks Huss. I'll stay away. Interesting that brands aren't willing to make new premium P&S film cameras.

Pentax is releasing all new ones in 2024! Which is like 4 days away!

And I'll be in.

Dec 28, 2023 at 04:30 PM

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p.6 #3 · p.6 #3 · The pitfalls of the high end film P&S

Desmolicious wrote:
Pentax is releasing all new ones in 2024! Which is like 4 days away!

And I'll be in.

Where is this?

Dec 28, 2023 at 04:31 PM

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lifeandmylens wrote:
I'm guessing the Minolta TC-1 for $700 falls under the not advisable to buy category as well?

IMO, any P&S that costs more than $50 is in that category

Dec 28, 2023 at 04:37 PM

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p.6 #5 · p.6 #5 · The pitfalls of the high end film P&S

Desmolicious wrote:
Short version - my awesome Fuji Klasse W swims wid da fishes.

Long version - my awesome Fuji Klasse W seems to have died today. Was out n about, shot one roll of film with no issues. Loaded another roll, by exposure 6 it refused to function. Battery was good, and I also had a fresh spare that I tried.
By refuse to function, when it was turned on it continuously flashed 'mf' (manual focus), did not respond to any dials, did not respond to the shutter button. Then turning it off no longer retracted the lens but the LCD panel turned...Show more →

Sorry to hear your Fuji died a sudden death. Maybe you can ebay it for parts and make some decent $$$.

Long ago, when these cameras were just about to go off the market, I held a brand new in the box Klasse in my hands at a shop in Japan. It was $400 and I was THIS close to buying it. I decided not to, as I already had a ton of cameras. But due to the small size of the Klasse, I always regretted it. Now their $1000? Wow.

Dec 28, 2023 at 05:19 PM

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Yeah I will sell it for parts. Just gotta get round to doing that! Real bummer cuz I loved that camera,.

Dec 28, 2023 at 05:29 PM

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lifeandmylens wrote:
Where is this?

Ricoh/Pentax announced it earlier this year. Meant to be a Spring 2024 release.

Dec 28, 2023 at 08:48 PM

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Desmolicious wrote:
Ricoh/Pentax announced it earlier this year. Meant to be a Spring 2024 release.

If only Fujifilm would resurrect Natura 1600 to commemorate this blessed film camera event...

Dec 28, 2023 at 09:49 PM

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https://casualphotophile.com/2018/11/16/fujifilm-natura-s-black-f19-review/

Dec 29, 2023 at 09:57 AM

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rattymouse wrote:
https://casualphotophile.com/2018/11/16/fujifilm-natura-s-black-f19-review/

Never knew that one even existed. Do you own one?

Dec 29, 2023 at 10:59 AM

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j.liam wrote:
Never knew that one even existed. Do you own one?

I wish. I saw a used one in the store many years ago, but never pulled the trigger. They were very expensive, even 10 years ago.

Dec 29, 2023 at 11:06 AM

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rattymouse wrote:
I wish. I saw a used one in the store many years ago, but never pulled the trigger. They were very expensive, even 10 years ago.

Cardinal Camera in PA has one for $800. Not outrageous, all things considered.

Dec 29, 2023 at 11:54 AM

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Desmolicious wrote:
I just 'won' a Pentax Espio 24EW. $34 for all metal body with dedicated exp compensation button. For $34 - AKA two beers and a big plate of nachos - I figured why not find out for myself if it is good or junk.

I recently bought a Samsung AF Slim Zoom (the one w the 35-70 zoom) and that frankly is great. But plastic so not lux feeling. But the images are great, and if it dies, there goes $20!

Congrats on the new camera, I'm not familiar with that one some of these Pentax can be pretty nice though, so hopefully it is a nice camera and does well. I know the older one I have has quite a bit of metal imo and us quite nice

It might get you closer to the T than expected and no real concerns if it dies, at least compared to a more expensive camera

Dec 29, 2023 at 12:28 PM

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AmbientMike wrote:
Congrats on the new camera, I'm not familiar with that one some of these Pentax can be pretty nice though, so hopefully it is a nice camera and does well. I know the older one I have has quite a bit of metal imo and us quite nice

It might get you closer to the T than expected and no real concerns if it dies, at least compared to a more expensive camera

I gotta be honest I am not expecting too much, as it has such a wide zoom range. But pretty much w all zoom p&s cameras I just use them at their default lens setting, which tends to be the widest. The 'tele' part is for emergencies..
The Pentax 24EW is a 24-105 but the default setting is 35mm. I really bought it for the exp compensation button! But we'll see how it pans out. If it is cr@p, I will let everyone know!

Dec 29, 2023 at 01:22 PM

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p.s. I just gifted my Pentax Zoom 90 WR to a co-worker who is just getting into a film. And was about to buy one of those plastic semi-disposable Kodaks. Those are fine in bright daylight, but the performance window of a camera with one exposure setting is lacking for those inexperienced. I don't want her entry into film photography to be disappointing!

Dec 29, 2023 at 01:25 PM

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p.6 #16 · p.6 #16 · The pitfalls of the high end film P&S

I thought it was only rich London hipsters that were buying these relics.
I had a discussion with my partners cousin over the weekend
He lives and works in London
Knowing how photography has been a hobby of mine since….forever
He wanted to show me shots he’d taken on a recent whale watching cruise
His iPhone and a disposable film camera were his tools of choice….
He enthused about the colour fidelity, nuances of tone etc etc
….Whatever!!!

I told him he was talking bollocks, that the pictures he’d taken were not a representation of film in the slightest, but a representation of a disposable camera with cheap plastic lens and a fixed aperture and that the pictures he was enthusing over were quite clearly the result of a lab technician desperately trying to salvage something to hand him back.

Unperturbed, he replied he was halfway through his second disposable camera, to which I politely removed myself and went in search of less inane nonsense.

Horses for courses, an’ all that

Dec 29, 2023 at 02:01 PM

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Desmolicious wrote:
I gotta be honest I am not expecting too much, as it has such a wide zoom range. But pretty much w all zoom p&s cameras I just use them at their default lens setting, which tends to be the widest. The 'tele' part is for emergencies..
The Pentax 24EW is a 24-105 but the default setting is 35mm. I really bought it for the exp compensation button! But we'll see how it pans out. If it is cr@p, I will let everyone know!

The E.C. button is definitely a positive but you could probably just tape the DX coding on 200 iso. I think on a lot of bodies this gives a default of 100, and a stop probably covers most of it

I still remember someone had a poster sized print taken using a p&s, possibly older Pentax. Some can be excellent I'd think.

Dec 29, 2023 at 02:08 PM

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AmbientMike wrote:
The E.C. button is definitely a positive but you could probably just tape the DX coding on 200 iso. I think on a lot of bodies this gives a default of 100, and a stop probably covers most of it

I still remember someone had a poster sized print taken using a p&s, possibly older Pentax. Some can be excellent I'd think.

Yeah but this Pentax allows you +- 3EV! Interesting thing it is the only one I can find out of their entire range that has that functionality. P&S cameras can make excellent pics, just depends on which one.

Dec 29, 2023 at 02:31 PM

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Pixelpuffin wrote:
I thought it was only rich London hipsters that were buying these relics.
I had a discussion with my partners cousin over the weekend
He lives and works in London
Knowing how photography has been a hobby of mine since….forever
He wanted to show me shots he’d taken on a recent whale watching cruise
His iPhone and a disposable film camera were his tools of choice….
He enthused about the colour fidelity, nuances of tone etc etc
….Whatever!!!

I told him he was talking bollocks, that the pictures he’d taken were not a representation of film in the slightest, but a representation of a disposable...Show more →

Are you confusing plastic disposable cameras with P&S cameras?

And... if he liked his pics that he took with his disposable, then good for him.

Dec 29, 2023 at 02:33 PM

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p.6 #20 · p.6 #20 · The pitfalls of the high end film P&S

Pitch black, but whip out your tiny P&S that you of course always have with you...
BAM! Bringing colour and light into the world!

$20 Samsung AF Slim Zoom, Superia 400

Dec 29, 2023 at 02:47 PM

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