AmbientMike wrote:
Dude, you're on the beach, you don't need 2.8!!! f/12 & no exposure compensation kinda reasons I didn't use p&s's much 4.9 is pretty similar to 5.6. Not familiar with the Espio, 24mm + e.c. sound good, but the IQZoom is really nice
This Pentax has lots of metal, very solid, and one of the things I like about the review I posted a link to is that it mentioned it's upscale. might get you closer to a T2 than you'd expect.
I just 'won' a Pentax Espio 24EW. $34 for all metal body with dedicated exp compensation button. For $34 - AKA two beers and a big plate of nachos - I figured why not find out for myself if it is good or junk.
I recently bought a Samsung AF Slim Zoom (the one w the 35-70 zoom) and that frankly is great. But plastic so not lux feeling. But the images are great, and if it dies, there goes $20!
Desmolicious wrote:
Short version - my awesome Fuji Klasse W swims wid da fishes.
Long version - my awesome Fuji Klasse W seems to have died today. Was out n about, shot one roll of film with no issues. Loaded another roll, by exposure 6 it refused to function. Battery was good, and I also had a fresh spare that I tried.
By refuse to function, when it was turned on it continuously flashed 'mf' (manual focus), did not respond to any dials, did not respond to the shutter button. Then turning it off no longer retracted the lens but the LCD panel turned off.
Turning it back would result in a faint single click sound. Opening the film back and closing it - same faint click sound.
I managed to rewind the film that was in the camera - that worked - so that was salvaged. When I push that rewind button again - same faint click.
Get home, take out the battery. Have the film back open. Put battery back in and replace the battery cover but do not tighten it. Camera makes grumbling sounds. Release pressure on battery cover so contact broken, then reapply pressure. More grumbling sounds. Tighten battery cover, turn camera on and off suddenly the lens retracts. Put the roll of film back in - it loads it like nobody's business. Give shutter button half push - lens focuses and all info on the panel and in the VF light up correctly.
Turn camera off, lens retracts really sloooooowly.
In a few moments, back to the previous non-working nonsense. Rewind film, put it in my perfect Nikon N80 that cost me $20.
I paid $650 for this camera a couple of years ago. They now go for $1000+. And this is why I would never recommend any of these expensive P&S cameras. They all are on their last legs, but as the Fuji was the newest of them all, I thought it's legs would be a bit longer..
Sorry to hear your Fuji died a sudden death. Maybe you can ebay it for parts and make some decent $$$.
Long ago, when these cameras were just about to go off the market, I held a brand new in the box Klasse in my hands at a shop in Japan. It was $400 and I was THIS close to buying it. I decided not to, as I already had a ton of cameras. But due to the small size of the Klasse, I always regretted it. Now their $1000? Wow.
Desmolicious wrote:
I just 'won' a Pentax Espio 24EW. $34 for all metal body with dedicated exp compensation button. For $34 - AKA two beers and a big plate of nachos - I figured why not find out for myself if it is good or junk.
I recently bought a Samsung AF Slim Zoom (the one w the 35-70 zoom) and that frankly is great. But plastic so not lux feeling. But the images are great, and if it dies, there goes $20!
Congrats on the new camera, I'm not familiar with that one some of these Pentax can be pretty nice though, so hopefully it is a nice camera and does well. I know the older one I have has quite a bit of metal imo and us quite nice
It might get you closer to the T than expected and no real concerns if it dies, at least compared to a more expensive camera
AmbientMike wrote:
Congrats on the new camera, I'm not familiar with that one some of these Pentax can be pretty nice though, so hopefully it is a nice camera and does well. I know the older one I have has quite a bit of metal imo and us quite nice
It might get you closer to the T than expected and no real concerns if it dies, at least compared to a more expensive camera
I gotta be honest I am not expecting too much, as it has such a wide zoom range. But pretty much w all zoom p&s cameras I just use them at their default lens setting, which tends to be the widest. The 'tele' part is for emergencies..
The Pentax 24EW is a 24-105 but the default setting is 35mm. I really bought it for the exp compensation button! But we'll see how it pans out. If it is cr@p, I will let everyone know!
p.s. I just gifted my Pentax Zoom 90 WR to a co-worker who is just getting into a film. And was about to buy one of those plastic semi-disposable Kodaks. Those are fine in bright daylight, but the performance window of a camera with one exposure setting is lacking for those inexperienced. I don't want her entry into film photography to be disappointing!
I thought it was only rich London hipsters that were buying these relics.
I had a discussion with my partners cousin over the weekend
He lives and works in London
Knowing how photography has been a hobby of mine since….forever
He wanted to show me shots he’d taken on a recent whale watching cruise
His iPhone and a disposable film camera were his tools of choice….
He enthused about the colour fidelity, nuances of tone etc etc
….Whatever!!!
I told him he was talking bollocks, that the pictures he’d taken were not a representation of film in the slightest, but a representation of a disposable camera with cheap plastic lens and a fixed aperture and that the pictures he was enthusing over were quite clearly the result of a lab technician desperately trying to salvage something to hand him back.
Unperturbed, he replied he was halfway through his second disposable camera, to which I politely removed myself and went in search of less inane nonsense.
Desmolicious wrote:
I gotta be honest I am not expecting too much, as it has such a wide zoom range. But pretty much w all zoom p&s cameras I just use them at their default lens setting, which tends to be the widest. The 'tele' part is for emergencies..
The Pentax 24EW is a 24-105 but the default setting is 35mm. I really bought it for the exp compensation button! But we'll see how it pans out. If it is cr@p, I will let everyone know!
The E.C. button is definitely a positive but you could probably just tape the DX coding on 200 iso. I think on a lot of bodies this gives a default of 100, and a stop probably covers most of it
I still remember someone had a poster sized print taken using a p&s, possibly older Pentax. Some can be excellent I'd think.
AmbientMike wrote:
The E.C. button is definitely a positive but you could probably just tape the DX coding on 200 iso. I think on a lot of bodies this gives a default of 100, and a stop probably covers most of it
I still remember someone had a poster sized print taken using a p&s, possibly older Pentax. Some can be excellent I'd think.
Yeah but this Pentax allows you +- 3EV! Interesting thing it is the only one I can find out of their entire range that has that functionality. P&S cameras can make excellent pics, just depends on which one.
Pixelpuffin wrote:
I thought it was only rich London hipsters that were buying these relics.
I had a discussion with my partners cousin over the weekend
He lives and works in London
Knowing how photography has been a hobby of mine since….forever
He wanted to show me shots he’d taken on a recent whale watching cruise
His iPhone and a disposable film camera were his tools of choice….
He enthused about the colour fidelity, nuances of tone etc etc
….Whatever!!!
I told him he was talking bollocks, that the pictures he’d taken were not a representation of film in the slightest, but a representation of a disposable camera with cheap plastic lens and a fixed aperture and that the pictures he was enthusing over were quite clearly the result of a lab technician desperately trying to salvage something to hand him back.
Unperturbed, he replied he was halfway through his second disposable camera, to which I politely removed myself and went in search of less inane nonsense.
f/12 & no exposure compensation kinda reasons I didn't use p&s's much 4.9 is pretty similar to 5.6. Not familiar with the Espio, 24mm + e.c. sound good, but the IQZoom is really nice
