Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
p.10 #1Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
Is there anyone with this lens ready to post some images other than the site founder and me?
Aug 21, 2023 at 12:40 PM
p.10 #3Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
Is the lens hood a screw in lens hood or bayonet? Are you able to put on a lens filter on along with the lens hood?
Aug 21, 2023 at 07:39 PM
p.10 #4Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
cses wrote:
Is the lens hood a screw in lens hood or bayonet? Are you able to put on a lens filter on along with the lens hood?
The hood screws onto the lens. If you want to use a filter, you can attach it directly to the lens and then put the hood over the filter if necessary.
Is the lens hood a screw in lens hood or bayonet? Are you able to put on a lens filter on along with the lens hood?
The hood screws onto the lens. If you want to use a filter, you can attach it directly to the lens and then put the hood over the filter if necessary.
Aug 21, 2023 at 07:42 PM
p.10 #5Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
madnbad, are you using a red filter, or is that all from the rodinal at low dilution?
Aug 21, 2023 at 11:21 PM
p.10 #6Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
raizans wrote:
madnbad, are you using a red filter, or is that all from the rodinal at low dilution?
I have a clear B+W 010 on the front of the lens plus the hood. On a different site my early attempts with Tri-X developed in Rodinal were dense and over exposed. One comment pointed out the problems, I asked the commenter for help in improving my technique. It was a simple fix and made a world of difference. I got rid of the #8 yellow filter, reduced the ISO to 200 to make up for using Rodinal which apparently wants users to give up speed to reduce grain. When developing, gently agitate for the first minute then two agitation every minute. The negative were developed for ten minutes at 20C.
I use a Sony A7II fitted with a FE90 2.8 Macro mounted on a Negative Supply Pro Riser MK2 that I modified with longer screws for the legs, a Boos Block cutting board as a base held in place with wood working clamps. A Pro Carrier 135 keeps the film flat, illumination is provide by yet another Negative Supply piece, a 5X7 Lightsource Pro 95 CRI.
The capture is done at +1.7EV over base exposure. Conversion is with Gentlemen Coders RAW Power plug in for Apple Photos. If I’ve done my job in exposing the negative correctly, there is very little, if any, adjustment in post.
Hope that answers your question.
Aug 22, 2023 at 01:14 AM
p.10 #7Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
Thanks for the details! I see how that recipe would make contrasty negs. Might give it a try someday!
Aug 22, 2023 at 11:36 PM
p.10 #8Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
So happy to see this new lens from CV - I've always wanted to see a new version of the Color Skopar 28mm f/3.5. I have that lens for Nikon S-mount and it is unfortunately too fogged to use anymore. Strongly considering buying the thread mount version in silver, even though the version II seems more ergonomic. It looks like a great lens for both film and digital.
Aug 24, 2023 at 06:31 AM
p.10 #9Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
Some shots from my recent holiday in Finland, taken with CV 28/2.8 VM on my Sony A7C:
Amurin Työläismuseokortteli (all shots at f2.8):
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Kegr2YUdJPpqTjAo7
Some scenery around Tampere (all shots at f8 or f2.8):
https://photos.app.goo.gl/773Hog1yRqqo2exz7
I applied my favorite preset on them in C1 Pro and on some of the shots on the 2nd album I also reduced vignetting a bit here and there.
I really like this lens (I got the Black version II). Usability is great and I think it works pretty decently on Sony. I can also use it at hard infinity on my A7C with my Rayqual adapter for best corner-to-corner sharpness for long distance shots. Vignetting is a bit strong but it's easy to reduce it in post if desired.
Amurin Työläismuseokortteli (all shots at f2.8):
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Kegr2YUdJPpqTjAo7
Some scenery around Tampere (all shots at f8 or f2.8):
https://photos.app.goo.gl/773Hog1yRqqo2exz7
I applied my favorite preset on them in C1 Pro and on some of the shots on the 2nd album I also reduced vignetting a bit here and there.
I really like this lens (I got the Black version II). Usability is great and I think it works pretty decently on Sony. I can also use it at hard infinity on my A7C with my Rayqual adapter for best corner-to-corner sharpness for long distance shots. Vignetting is a bit strong but it's easy to reduce it in post if desired.
Aug 25, 2023 at 07:11 AM
p.10 #10Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
It's interesting that many of CV's recent lenses have a lot of vignetting. The 28 Ultron, the 28 Color Skopar, the 50 1.5 II.
Aug 25, 2023 at 10:59 AM
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p.10 #11Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
Desmolicious wrote:
It's interesting that many of CV's recent lenses have a lot of vignetting. The 28 Ultron, the 28 Color Skopar, the 50 1.5 II.
Well if a lens has to have an aberration I prefer it to be vignetting. It is easily fixed in post, and I actually end up adding a vignette in many of my images. I really don't like excessive CA, distortion, or sharpness dips.
It's interesting that many of CV's recent lenses have a lot of vignetting. The 28 Ultron, the 28 Color Skopar, the 50 1.5 II.
Well if a lens has to have an aberration I prefer it to be vignetting. It is easily fixed in post, and I actually end up adding a vignette in many of my images. I really don't like excessive CA, distortion, or sharpness dips.
Aug 25, 2023 at 11:12 AM
p.10 #12Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
1bwana1 wrote:
Well if a lens has to have an aberration I prefer it to be vignetting. It is easily fixed in post, and I actually end up adding a vignette in many of my images. I really don't like excessive CA, distortion, or sharpness dips.
You can usually correct strong vignetting in editing without much quality loss. However, this bring along 'optical' vignetting that affects how bokeh balls look at the edges, giving them a cat's-eye shape. This can create noticeable swirling effects based on how far the subject is, but it's not entirely negative because some people actually appreciate this kind of look.
It looks like Cosina isn't addressing this problem to maintain the compactness of their lenses.
This particular characteristic is well recognized in their latest lens designs. The extremely compact CV 28/2.8 lens, which is almost as thin as a pancake, appears to be the most extreme example of this trend.
Desmolicious wrote
It's interesting that many of CV's recent lenses have a lot of vignetting. The 28 Ultron, the 28 Color Skopar, the 50 1.5 II.You can usually correct strong vignetting in editing without much quality loss. However, this bring along 'optical' vignetting that affects how bokeh balls look at the edges, giving them a cat's-eye shape. This can create noticeable swirling effects based on how far the subject is, but it's not entirely negative because some people actually appreciate this kind of look.
It looks like Cosina isn't addressing this problem to maintain the compactness of their lenses.
This particular characteristic is well recognized in their latest lens designs. The extremely compact CV 28/2.8 lens, which is almost as thin as a pancake, appears to be the most extreme example of this trend.
Aug 25, 2023 at 12:37 PM
p.10 #13Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
Juha Kannisto wrote:
Some shots from my recent holiday in Finland, taken with CV 28/2.8 VM on my Sony A7C:
Amurin Työläismuseokortteli (all shots at f2.8):
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Kegr2YUdJPpqTjAo7
Some scenery around Tampere (all shots at f8 or f2.8):
https://photos.app.goo.gl/773Hog1yRqqo2exz7
I applied my favorite preset on them in C1 Pro and on some of the shots on the 2nd album I also reduced vignetting a bit here and there.
I really like this lens (I got the Black version II). Usability is great and I think it works pretty decently on Sony. I can also use it at hard infinity on my A7C with my Rayqual adapter for best corner-to-corner...Show more →
Awesome photos from the museum, Juha! Seems like you had a fantastic time. I couldn't convince myself to trade the 28/2 Ultron for the Color-Skopar. I still believe the Ultron is one of the finest 28mm lenses out there, and it's small enough for my needs.
Some shots from my recent holiday in Finland, taken with CV 28/2.8 VM on my Sony A7C:
Amurin Työläismuseokortteli (all shots at f2.8):
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Kegr2YUdJPpqTjAo7
Some scenery around Tampere (all shots at f8 or f2.8):
https://photos.app.goo.gl/773Hog1yRqqo2exz7
I applied my favorite preset on them in C1 Pro and on some of the shots on the 2nd album I also reduced vignetting a bit here and there.
I really like this lens (I got the Black version II). Usability is great and I think it works pretty decently on Sony. I can also use it at hard infinity on my A7C with my Rayqual adapter for best corner-to-corner...Show more →
Awesome photos from the museum, Juha! Seems like you had a fantastic time. I couldn't convince myself to trade the 28/2 Ultron for the Color-Skopar. I still believe the Ultron is one of the finest 28mm lenses out there, and it's small enough for my needs.
Aug 25, 2023 at 12:39 PM
p.10 #14Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
I will wait until I find a used 28/2.8 Type I to go with the 40/2.8. I have the 28/2 Ultra and it is probably my favorite lens for my M10-R but there are times when I know I won't need f2 and the smaller size would be appreciated.
Aug 25, 2023 at 12:51 PM
p.10 #15Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
As much as the aperture ring is inconvenient on the type 1, I am drawn to it because like you Bruce, I already have the similar 40 2.8. It will make a nice set.
And if I want normal - I have other 28s for that.
And if I want normal - I have other 28s for that.
Aug 25, 2023 at 02:07 PM
p.10 #16Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
Desmolicious wrote:
As much as the aperture ring is inconvenient on the type 1, I am drawn to it because like you Bruce, I already have the similar 40 2.8. It will make a nice set.
And if I want normal - I have other 28s for that.
A two lens combo that will fit in a pocket!
As much as the aperture ring is inconvenient on the type 1, I am drawn to it because like you Bruce, I already have the similar 40 2.8. It will make a nice set.
And if I want normal - I have other 28s for that.
A two lens combo that will fit in a pocket!
Aug 25, 2023 at 03:34 PM
p.10 #17Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
Desmolicious wrote:
As much as the aperture ring is inconvenient on the type 1, I am drawn to it because like you Bruce, I already have the similar 40 2.8. It will make a nice set.
And if I want normal - I have other 28s for that.
I don't really see it as a big hassle, especially for street photography and zone focusing. In those situations, you don't need super precise focus, so it's simple to hold the focus ring and adjust the aperture if necessary. But typically, I find myself tinkering with the shutter speed and ISO more than the aperture when I'm in zone focusing mode.
Since I have the Ultron, I'm also more interested in the Type I because it operates in a completely different way mechanically and it's even thinner.
As much as the aperture ring is inconvenient on the type 1, I am drawn to it because like you Bruce, I already have the similar 40 2.8. It will make a nice set.
And if I want normal - I have other 28s for that.
I don't really see it as a big hassle, especially for street photography and zone focusing. In those situations, you don't need super precise focus, so it's simple to hold the focus ring and adjust the aperture if necessary. But typically, I find myself tinkering with the shutter speed and ISO more than the aperture when I'm in zone focusing mode.
Since I have the Ultron, I'm also more interested in the Type I because it operates in a completely different way mechanically and it's even thinner.
Aug 25, 2023 at 05:14 PM
p.10 #18Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
Fred Miranda wrote:
And if I want normal - I have other 28s for that.I don't really see it as a big hassle, especially for street photography and zone focusing. In those situations, you don't need super precise focus, so it's simple to hold the focus ring and adjust the aperture if necessary. But typically, I find myself tinkering with the shutter speed and ISO more than the aperture when I'm in zone focusing mode.
Since I have the Ultron, I'm also more interested in Type I because it operates in a completely different way mechanically and it's even thinner.
I'm sorry, as a film shooter I do not understand what you mean by 'tinkering with ..ISO'. Sounds like the devil's work to me.
Desmolicious wrote
As much as the aperture ring is inconvenient on the type 1, I am drawn to it because like you Bruce, I already have the similar 40 2.8. It will make a nice set.And if I want normal - I have other 28s for that.
Since I have the Ultron, I'm also more interested in Type I because it operates in a completely different way mechanically and it's even thinner.
I'm sorry, as a film shooter I do not understand what you mean by 'tinkering with ..ISO'. Sounds like the devil's work to me.
Aug 25, 2023 at 07:48 PM
p.10 #19Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
Desmolicious wrote:
And if I want normal - I have other 28s for that.I don't really see it as a big hassle, especially for street photography and zone focusing. In those situations, you don't need super precise focus, so it's simple to hold the focus ring and adjust the aperture if necessary. But typically, I find myself tinkering with the shutter speed and ISO more than the aperture when I'm in zone focusing mode.
Since I have the Ultron, I'm also more interested in Type I because it operates in a completely different way mechanically and it's even thinner.I'm sorry, as a film shooter I do not understand what you mean by 'tinkering with ..ISO'. Sounds like the devil's work to me.
Fred Miranda wrote
Desmolicious wrote
As much as the aperture ring is inconvenient on the type 1, I am drawn to it because like you Bruce, I already have the similar 40 2.8. It will make a nice set.And if I want normal - I have other 28s for that.
Since I have the Ultron, I'm also more interested in Type I because it operates in a completely different way mechanically and it's even thinner.
Aug 25, 2023 at 08:30 PM
p.10 #20Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar Review
Desmolicious wrote:
And if I want normal - I have other 28s for that.I don't really see it as a big hassle, especially for street photography and zone focusing. In those situations, you don't need super precise focus, so it's simple to hold the focus ring and adjust the aperture if necessary. But typically, I find myself tinkering with the shutter speed and ISO more than the aperture when I'm in zone focusing mode.
Since I have the Ultron, I'm also more interested in Type I because it operates in a completely different way mechanically and it's even thinner.I'm sorry, as a film shooter I do not understand what you mean by 'tinkering with ..ISO'. Sounds like the devil's work to me.
You make FM fun!
Fred Miranda wrote
Desmolicious wrote
As much as the aperture ring is inconvenient on the type 1, I am drawn to it because like you Bruce, I already have the similar 40 2.8. It will make a nice set.And if I want normal - I have other 28s for that.
Since I have the Ultron, I'm also more interested in Type I because it operates in a completely different way mechanically and it's even thinner.
You make FM fun!
Aug 25, 2023 at 08:33 PM