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p.6 #1 · Leica 50mm f/1.4 Summilux (pre asph) - v1, v2 & v3


nehemiahphoto wrote:
This is a pretty rad thread.

I have always liked the draw and images very much of the 50/1.5 Summarit. I didn’t know it shared an optical formula with the my Noct 50/1 (v2). The Noct has proven to be a top 3 lens of all time for me. I love it for video too.

I’d be very curious to see a Noct 50/1 vs 50 Summait.

My only complains are its size and price. I don’t like to travel with such expensive glass.


Well, I'm getting the Summarit soon and will compare to the Noct 50/1.



Sep 15, 2024 at 05:01 PM
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p.6 #2 · Leica 50mm f/1.4 Summilux (pre asph) - v1, v2 & v3


I love my 50 V(3) -

It pulls at my heart to pick up the 50 Lux (CF) or the 50 Lux V (3) -

Love both of them so damn much!

The size of the v(3) is just so damn perfect.



Sep 15, 2024 at 05:41 PM
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p.6 #3 · Leica 50mm f/1.4 Summilux (pre asph) - v1, v2 & v3


Fred Miranda wrote:
Well, I'm getting the Summarit soon and will compare to the Noct 50/1.


I am curious to see this one when they were both shot at the same apertures

The other thing that would make this thread even better would be to compare the R 50 Luxes. I always like the draw of both of them.

I wonder if we would prefer the M pre-aspherical versions or R’s. I prefer the 80 Lux to the 75.



Sep 15, 2024 at 10:33 PM
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p.6 #4 · Leica 50mm f/1.4 Summilux (pre asph) - v1, v2 & v3


nehemiahphoto wrote:
I am curious to see this one when they were both shot at the same apertures

The other thing that would make this thread even better would be to compare the R 50 Luxes. I always like the draw of both of them.

I wonder if we would prefer the M pre-aspherical versions or R’s. I prefer the 80 Lux to the 75.


But at the same apertures, I think they will be different beasts. The Noct 50/1 at f/1.4 is a different lens in my opinion, losing many of the characteristics that make it unique. However, it would still be interesting to see how both perform wide open and at similar apertures.



Sep 15, 2024 at 11:00 PM
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p.6 #5 · Leica 50mm f/1.4 Summilux (pre asph) - v1, v2 & v3


I agree—which is why I nearly always shoot it WO! But I do want to see them both at 1.4 vs 1.5, f2 and then 5.6.

In this thread the I find the 50 lux and Noct both at 1.4 illustrative.



Sep 16, 2024 at 08:26 AM
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p.6 #6 · Leica 50mm f/1.4 Summilux (pre asph) - v1, v2 & v3


I just received the Leica 50mm f/1.5 Summarit. It's a beauty and reminds me of the Voigtlander 50/1.5 II Nokton with its double ring for focusing. The lens is compact, with a length of only 45mm, but it's quite dense due to its brass construction (320 grams), which is still half the weight of the Noct 50/1. It has a 41mm filter thread.

I tested it on the Leica M11, and it's aligned perfectly with the rangefinder, which is impressive for a lens produced in the 1950s, according to my serial number. There's no haze or scratches -- looks lovely.

Here are some samples I took about 30 minutes ago in the neighborhood. I used my Sony A7R II UT for these shots because I wanted to see the rendering in the EVF for this test. (All wide open at f/1.5)




  ILCE-7RM2    TECHART LM-EA9 lens    50mm    f/2.0    1/6400s    100 ISO    -0.7 EV  






  ILCE-7RM2    TECHART LM-EA9 lens    50mm    f/2.0    1/2500s    100 ISO    -0.7 EV  






  ILCE-7RM2    TECHART LM-EA9 lens    50mm    f/2.0    1/2500s    100 ISO    -0.7 EV  






  ILCE-7RM2    TECHART LM-EA9 lens    50mm    f/2.0    1/6400s    100 ISO    -0.7 EV  






  ILCE-7RM2    TECHART LM-EA9 lens    50mm    f/2.0    1/2000s    100 ISO    -0.7 EV  






  ILCE-7RM2    TECHART LM-EA9 lens    50mm    f/2.0    1/500s    100 ISO    -0.7 EV  






  ILCE-7RM2    TECHART LM-EA9 lens    50mm    f/2.0    1/5000s    100 ISO    -0.7 EV  






  ILCE-7RM2    TECHART LM-EA9 lens    50mm    f/2.0    1/4000s    100 ISO    -0.7 EV  






  ILCE-7RM2    TECHART LM-EA9 lens    50mm    f/2.0    1/5000s    100 ISO    -0.7 EV  






  ILCE-7RM2    TECHART LM-EA9 lens    50mm    f/2.0    1/8000s    100 ISO    -0.7 EV  






  ILCE-7RM2    TECHART LM-EA9 lens    50mm    f/2.0    1/6400s    100 ISO    -0.7 EV  






  ILCE-7RM2    TECHART LM-EA9 lens    50mm    f/2.0    1/3200s    100 ISO    -0.7 EV  




Sep 16, 2024 at 07:59 PM
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p.6 #7 · Leica 50mm f/1.4 Summilux (pre asph) - v1, v2 & v3


Really interesting and I dig a couple of them quite a bit.

They appear higher contrast the I would have thought. Did you add contrast in post?



Sep 17, 2024 at 01:52 PM
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p.6 #8 · Leica 50mm f/1.4 Summilux (pre asph) - v1, v2 & v3


nehemiahphoto wrote:
Really interesting and I dig a couple of them quite a bit.

They appear higher contrast the I would have thought. Did you add contrast in post?


I assure you, the lens has low contrast because of its coating. The higher contrast you’re seeing in the images is probably due to the profile I used, such as Adobe Color or a Fuji profile. I'll double-check to confirm. There is quite nice glow in the highlights as well. I've seen in my indoor images but they are boring so far.



Sep 17, 2024 at 02:02 PM
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p.6 #9 · Leica 50mm f/1.4 Summilux (pre asph) - v1, v2 & v3


A few indoor shots. Above Standard profile:

It reminds me of the low contrast from the Leica 35/1.4 pre-asph.



























Sep 17, 2024 at 02:08 PM
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p.6 #10 · Leica 50mm f/1.4 Summilux (pre asph) - v1, v2 & v3


Here are some of the earlier samples showing images straight out of the camera using the Adobe Standard profile. I agree, different profiles can significantly affect contrast and colors. This is more representative of the lens's natural behavior.

When shooting against the light, the lens produces a pleasing veiling flare that results in a low-contrast image. However, when the subject faces the light source, the contrast increases and the colors become more vivid.










































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p.6 #11 · Leica 50mm f/1.4 Summilux (pre asph) - v1, v2 & v3


Nice shots Fred-

This lens was just a bit to much character for me but I can see why people would enjoy it! I did prefer it more on Black and White then I did in color but neither where a match for me-

Thanks for posting these-



Sep 17, 2024 at 02:56 PM
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p.6 #12 · Leica 50mm f/1.4 Summilux (pre asph) - v1, v2 & v3


I printed a 3D hood for my Leica 50mm f/1.5 Summarit today. Normally, I don't use hoods on my lenses, but this one really needs it.

The dedicated "SOOMP" Leica hood is huge, so I chose a Cosina-inspired minimalistic hood design instead. Leica also often uses short, compact built-in hoods in many lenses so I thought it was a good idea. I measured a hood extension that avoids vignetting while being long enough to be effective.

What’s great about this design is that it’s super light at just 3 grams and attaches to the outside of the lens, allowing me to still use a filter.







Sep 18, 2024 at 03:25 PM
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p.6 #13 · Leica 50mm f/1.4 Summilux (pre asph) - v1, v2 & v3


Yuri helped me create a much cooler hood for this lens. Usually, I don’t care about hoods, but it makes a big difference when shooting against the light. I’ll post pictures showing it and share the code.


Sep 19, 2024 at 10:35 PM
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p.6 #14 · Leica 50mm f/1.4 Summilux (pre asph) - v1, v2 & v3


Nice initial shots, Fred. I really enjoy my Summarit. I particularly like it for moody BWs. It also can give very impressionistic close ups with a short extender.

Jim



Sep 20, 2024 at 02:05 PM
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p.6 #15 · Leica 50mm f/1.4 Summilux (pre asph) - v1, v2 & v3


I have found this comparison helpful many times, and now it has grown to quite a list of lenses. The link to the Noct f/1 unfortunately sends you to the f/0.95 page, rather than the original Noct f/1 page, which had some fairly gorgeous BW images.

https://mrleica.com/leica-m-50mm-lenses-compared/

Jim



Sep 20, 2024 at 06:55 PM
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p.6 #16 · Leica 50mm f/1.4 Summilux (pre asph) - v1, v2 & v3



https://mrleica.com/leica-noctilux-50mm-f1/

Grenache wrote:
I have found this comparison helpful many times, and now it has grown to quite a list of lenses. The link to the Noct f/1 unfortunately sends you to the f/0.95 page, rather than the original Noct f/1 page, which had some fairly gorgeous BW images.

https://mrleica.com/leica-m-50mm-lenses-compared/

Jim





Sep 20, 2024 at 07:49 PM
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p.6 #17 · Leica 50mm f/1.4 Summilux (pre asph) - v1, v2 & v3


tsdevine wrote:
https://mrleica.com/leica-noctilux-50mm-f1/



Thanks for linking that page, but it is still not the original from several years ago with the jaw dropping (at least for me) f/1 images.

The BW images in the field about midway down on this page are some of the images from the original post he had. Pure magic.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/32681588@N03/albums/72157644450874635/with/53921287468

For instance…

Leica vs Mamiya RZ! by Matt Osborne, on Flickr






Sep 20, 2024 at 11:20 PM
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p.6 #18 · Leica 50mm f/1.4 Summilux (pre asph) - v1, v2 & v3



Yeah, that's the only one I could find, and the picture below is on the page you originally shared.

Grenache wrote:
Thanks for linking that page, but it is still not the original from several years ago with the jaw dropping (at least for me) f/1 images.

The BW images in the field about midway down on this page are some of the images from the original post he had. Pure magic.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/32681588@N03/albums/72157644450874635/with/53921287468

For instance…

https://live.staticflickr.com/5195/14048674678_19d9f08c7a_5k.jpgLeica vs Mamiya RZ! by Matt Osborne, on Flickr






Sep 21, 2024 at 07:16 AM
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p.6 #19 · Leica 50mm f/1.4 Summilux (pre asph) - v1, v2 & v3


Fred Miranda wrote:
Here are some of the earlier samples showing images straight out of the camera using the Adobe Standard profile. I agree, different profiles can significantly affect contrast and colors. This is more representative of the lens's natural behavior.

When shooting against the light, the lens produces a pleasing veiling flare that results in a low-contrast image. However, when the subject faces the light source, the contrast increases and the colors become more vivid.


I also own this lens, and it has the most vibrant and unpredictable bokeh of all rangefinder lenses I have used so far. One big and rarely documented benefit of this lens is its 3D rendering with unique glow in lit areas when using a close-up lens attached to this Summarit f/1.5. Hood is often a must outdoors when using this lens - I got the original lens hood with screw-tightening.



Sep 24, 2024 at 11:16 AM
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p.6 #20 · Leica 50mm f/1.4 Summilux (pre asph) - v1, v2 & v3


Grenache wrote:
I have found this comparison helpful many times, and now it has grown to quite a list of lenses. The link to the Noct f/1 unfortunately sends you to the f/0.95 page, rather than the original Noct f/1 page, which had some fairly gorgeous BW images.

https://mrleica.com/leica-m-50mm-lenses-compared/

Jim


I absolutely love the Noct 50/1 for B/W images. It’s just sublime. The more I see of this 50/1.5, it would be a very nice stand in for the 50/1 Noct. I hate traveling with a 5 thousand dollar lens. And shooting it in tough environments.


















































Sep 24, 2024 at 11:43 AM
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