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p.2 #1 · p.2 #1 · Infrared Thread - Digital or Film

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Thank you Dan. That's in Cottonwood, SD (population 9).
A Iowan neighbor. I spent my 1st 10 yrs of life in Des Moines then Ft Dodge. Then we moved to Mary-land 1957..
Thanks Joe!
Dan

Jun 19, 2023 at 12:04 PM

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p.2 #2 · p.2 #2 · Infrared Thread - Digital or Film

The first batch were from a Canon 5D that Life Pixel had converted to 665nm IR, and I purchased it off ebay. After about 18 months I sent in my 5DmkII for the same 665nm conversion. It is much easier to get critical focus on the 5dmkII due to live view, and I also can see exposure in real time to get the highlights correct. These are from the new conversion to a camera I bought in 2009.
Lens - Nikkor 20mm f2.8 ais

Jun 19, 2023 at 11:00 PM

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p.2 #3 · p.2 #3 · Infrared Thread - Digital or Film

Again just super looking images Jim!
I really like the wavelength used to make the leaves standout so great and the stream/ water so dark!

Fine work Jim!
Dan

Jun 20, 2023 at 09:44 AM

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p.2 #4 · p.2 #4 · Infrared Thread - Digital or Film

Dan, there is bit of a learning curve to IR.

#1-Autofocus is usually off - even if calibrated. Some services will calibrate for a particular lens. Therefore, manual focus is really the best way to go. Some MF lenses have a red dot near infinity focus to approximate where infinity is in the infrared spectrum. With my 5D I had to chimp for focus, and exposure, but once you have it nailed it works well. Otherwise, I would get a camera that has excellent live view with almost no lag to the rear screen

#2-some lenses are not good at IR. They generate "hot shots" usually in the middle of the frame, and worsen as you stop down. Almost all my Nikkor lenses work great at any f-stop, but I do have one that has stellar performance in the visible light spectrum, but makes hot spots in IR. A separate F-ring is a big plus for me.

#3-Generating a white balance profile is done a number of ways. I initially followed Robert Reiser's tutorial using Adobe's free DNG profile editor. There are some really wacky colors in IR, but I prefer the black and white profiles I created. However, you can approximate a 830nm profile easily in Photoshop. ctrl + U and desaturate completely. Find the D-max and D-min (brightest highlight, darkest shadow). Then ctrl + M click highlight eye dropper on D-min, repeat clicking the shadow eyedropper on D-max. If it removes too many gray levels use the fade adjustment.

Jim

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Super composition Joe. Along with the church! I must start experimenting with IR.

Anyone have a suggestion for a novice?
Thanks!
Dan

Jun 20, 2023 at 10:32 AM

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p.2 #5 · p.2 #5 · Infrared Thread - Digital or Film

James Markus wrote:
Dan, there is bit of a learning curve to IR.

#1-Autofocus is usually off - even if calibrated. Some services will calibrate for a particular lens. Therefore, manual focus is really the best way to go. Some MF lenses have a red dot near infinity focus to approximate where infinity is in the infrared spectrum. With my 5D I had to chimp for focus, and exposure, but once you have it nailed it works well. Otherwise, I would get a camera that has excellent live view with almost no lag to the rear screen

#2-some lenses are not good at IR....Show more →

Thanks for all the info Jim! Yes I realized it was lot more "involved" than just a filter. You, and others, make it look so easy IMHO..and I know it isn't.
My post processing skils are minimal at best but Adobe, and your advice, make it a bit more understandable Ps wise!
THANKS!
Dan

Jun 20, 2023 at 12:20 PM

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Nikon d90 720 nm

Jun 20, 2023 at 03:29 PM

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Leica TL (720nm) / Elmarit 18

Jun 22, 2023 at 03:13 PM

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http://lazlo.us/pictures/Infrareds/Spring2023/DSC_2064-copy.jpg

Nikon d90 720 nm
Beautiful lazlo! Snow in the summer!

Dan

Jun 23, 2023 at 09:27 AM

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p.2 #9 · p.2 #9 · Infrared Thread - Digital or Film

See Through
Leica TL (720nm) / Elmarit 18

Jun 23, 2023 at 12:51 PM

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p.2 #10 · p.2 #10 · Infrared Thread - Digital or Film

A couple from yesterday morning. 5DmkII 665nm with f-mount Rokinon 14mm f2.8 adapted.

Jun 23, 2023 at 05:41 PM

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p.2 #11 · p.2 #11 · Infrared Thread - Digital or Film

Full-spectrum Sony a7IV with 665nm Kolari magnetic drop-in filter

Jun 25, 2023 at 09:27 PM

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p.2 #12 · p.2 #12 · Infrared Thread - Digital or Film

To everyone who posted images, they are great, well done. Now I am interested in trying this type of photography
so I will need and help from you people to get me started. I will be using my Z6 and I would need to buy a filter, so which make and what nm? And of course how to process the images, what software etc?
So if someone could give me advice on the above questions it will be much appreciated.
Regards Derek

Jun 26, 2023 at 01:35 PM

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p.2 #13 · p.2 #13 · Infrared Thread - Digital or Film

Derek, this post might help you get started:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1810819/0#16273825

Joe

Jul 01, 2023 at 01:20 PM

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p.2 #14 · p.2 #14 · Infrared Thread - Digital or Film

Full-spectrum Sony a7IV with 665nm Kolari magnetic drop-in filter

Jul 01, 2023 at 01:22 PM

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p.2 #15 · p.2 #15 · Infrared Thread - Digital or Film

From a recent trip to France, all on a Ricoh GR2 converted to 720nm.
The camera is currently being converted again, this time to 850nm. I'm done with color infrared!

Jul 10, 2023 at 07:36 AM

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p.2 #16 · p.2 #16 · Infrared Thread - Digital or Film

The shots from France have a nice feel to them. I assume you're adding a little glow in post, which I haven't tried yet.

I really debated between 720nm and 850nm when having my camera converted. My only plan was/is to shoot B&W, so I almost went 850. However, I kept reading how 720 was more flexible and 850 would be higher contrast (which I could always add in post). I ultimately went with 720nm. The useful information on the web is limited, and even the videos by the companies that do conversions seem to focus on color IR, which doesn't interest me. YouTube influencers are next to worthless for real info.

Good luck with the re-conversion. I'm sure it will work out great for you.

Jul 10, 2023 at 12:07 PM

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p.2 #17 · p.2 #17 · Infrared Thread - Digital or Film

Some infrared from my last trip to Austin, TX

Leica TL converted to 720nm / Elmarit-TL 18mm

Jul 10, 2023 at 12:13 PM

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p.2 #18 · p.2 #18 · Infrared Thread - Digital or Film

DougVaughn wrote:
The shots from France have a nice feel to them. I assume you're adding a little glow in post, which I haven't tried yet.

I really debated between 720nm and 850nm when having my camera converted. My only plan was/is to shoot B&W, so I almost went 850. However, I kept reading how 720 was more flexible and 850 would be higher contrast (which I could always add in post). I ultimately went with 720nm. The useful information on the web is limited, and even the videos by the companies that do conversions seem to focus on color IR, which doesn't...Show more →

Thanks, Doug.
Yes, I add halation, grain and contrast. It's sometimes tough to balance it all, the highlights can get quickly blown out.
Having a 720 camera is indeed the most versatile option. The colors aren't garish like at lower wavelengths and the B&Ws have excellent contrast.
My first IR camera was 850nm, and it made great images. I just didn't have the processing experience I do now, and I know that B&W is my preferred look for infrared.
I'm always after the Kodak HIE look, so figuring out how to do it well is half the fun.

Jul 10, 2023 at 12:21 PM