robert614 wrote:
I really hope this rumor is true. And a major firmware update is forthcoming. Although, I’m not holding my breath.
I realize Sony is under no obligation to provide us with firmware updates. But seeing how long product cycles are for flagship bodies. It’s a little disheartening to see my A1’s outclassed in many respects by less expensive bodies.
I know some of the latest AF features are hardware related. And probably can’t be added to the A1 via firmware. But I believe many of the latest features can. I really hope Sony will give us these features.
I don’t believe your A1 is being outclaased by any of current Sony bodies ( not from pure performance standpoint). For example…the hype with the A7RV is around its AI chip (let’s call it machine learning processor because it’s certainly marketing and not actual A.I ) this chip only assists with subject recognition and does not speed up AF acquisition or tracking. That’s where a stacked sensor as found in the A1 rules.
That said, I agree that Sony is long overdue for meaningful FW updates with the A1 . They have been absolutely lazy in this regard and the A1 is not an inexpensive camera. Many who purchase an A1 will not upgrade for a while, so it would be beneficial if Sony delivered on firmware enhancements. Sonys FW model is NOT how you retain customers long term, but rather it is how you alienate your own customer base! I guess Sony did not learn its lesson from its A mount failures ! The mirrorless Market is getting very competitive so they’d better rethink their strategy or their base is going to start shrinking very quickly with Nikon and Canon on their heels!
1bwana1 wrote:
This is how you write when English is not your first language, Italian is. Compounded by the fact that your Italian writing is about as accurate as your hair combing....
At least he stopped posting those imaginary AI inspired mash up body prototypes for the most part. I got triggered every time I saw one
wordfool wrote:
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed this. I'm finding that eye AF in general seems to be less reliable after the last update.
I haven't noticed a big difference in eye AF on birds, but my general observation is that something appears to have changed wrt effective AF tracking sensitivity. Previously the locked-on setting (1) in Zone and Wide held on to the subject (BIF) better than what I am currently seeing.
I too wish I'd stayed on firmware version 1.20 - and not being able to roll back to a previous version makes me wary of potential AF regressions in future updates.
Maxxus46 wrote:
I don’t believe your A1 is being outclaased by any of current Sony bodies ( not from pure performance standpoint). For example…the hype with the A7RV is around its AI chip (let’s call it machine learning processor because it’s certainly marketing and not actual A.I ) this chip only assists with subject recognition and does not speed up AF acquisition or tracking. That’s where a stacked sensor as found in the A1 rules.
That said, I agree that Sony is long overdue for meaningful FW updates with the A1 . They have been absolutely lazy in this regard and the A1 is not an inexpensive camera. Many who purchase an A1 will not upgrade for a while, so it would be beneficial if Sony delivered on firmware enhancements. Sonys FW model is NOT how you retain customers long term, but rather it is how you alienate your own customer base! I guess Sony did not learn its lesson from its A mount failures ! The mirrorless Market is getting very competitive so they’d better rethink their strategy or their base is going to start shrinking very quickly with Nikon and Canon on their heels!...Show more →
Hype eh? Well its just Sony moving things down the road as all companies have to in order to stay on top. Sorry your precious A1 is lacking in any way shape or form. I see Nikon and Canon have been very generous with their rapid firmware updates which have from all I can see brought them right up to snuff with what the A1 is doing. Last I checked, since I don't do flying birds nor sports I have no issues finding a person's face and eye and tracking them, nor a mountain for a landscape shot. But on all the forums I see the A1 owners are ticked and lashing out at any improvements made by other manufacturers and even their little brother A7RV. As if someone stepped on their toes. I for the life of me, can't figure out WHY oh WHY people negative comments come from as if a electronic shutter is an absolute must have in order to carry on competent photography. As if all photographic exploits over the last 25 years or so are null and void.
We ALL have different specialties and needs in our day to day photographic use. Personally I tend to stick to weddings, events, portraits and landscapes and occasionally static wildlife and birds. For those the A7R5 is working just fine thank you....in Electronic Shutter without any bent subjects. I don't fast pan, nor am I dealing with fast shifting or moving subjects. Excuse me for not requiring super high speed tracking nor electronic shutter speed responses. Many of us DON"T. But I suppose it won't calm down the current rhetoric regarding the failings of lower life product. I guess we poor slow electronic shutter owners will just have to suffer through it. ..........NOT!
k-h.a.w wrote:
Oh well, it will historically develop.
Focus stacking or focus bracketing would be nice to have on the A1.
K-H.
Focus stacking is the final thing I'm looking for (along with a fully articulating screen). Canon R cameras can do this at 10FPS and it's a game changer for certain kinds of landscape photography, effectively eliminating the need for a tripod.
dcisive wrote:
Hype eh? Well its just Sony moving things down the road as all companies have to in order to stay on top. Sorry your precious A1 is lacking in any way shape or form. I see Nikon and Canon have been very generous with their rapid firmware updates which have from all I can see brought them right up to snuff with what the A1 is doing. Last I checked, since I don't do flying birds nor sports I have no issues finding a person's face and eye and tracking them, nor a mountain for a landscape shot. But on all the forums I see the A1 owners are ticked and lashing out at any improvements made by other manufacturers and even their little brother A7RV. As if someone stepped on their toes. I for the life of me, can't figure out WHY oh WHY people negative comments come from as if a electronic shutter is an absolute must have in order to carry on competent photography. As if all photographic exploits over the last 25 years or so are null and void.
We ALL have different specialties and needs in our day to day photographic use. Personally I tend to stick to weddings, events, portraits and landscapes and occasionally static wildlife and birds. For those the A7R5 is working just fine thank you....in Electronic Shutter without any bent subjects. I don't fast pan, nor am I dealing with fast shifting or moving subjects. Excuse me for not requiring super high speed tracking nor electronic shutter speed responses. Many of us DON"T. But I suppose it won't calm down the current rhetoric regarding the failings of lower life product. I guess we poor slow electronic shutter owners will just have to suffer through it. ..........NOT!...Show more →
Why so mad? No one said you or anyone else was required to require the capabilities the A1 offers. But those who have an A1 tend to really like it. You clearly seem to like a different camera, which is great.
Looks a bit like the Function menu that's customizable and offers shortcuts to a dozen settings. And then we also have the "my menu" feature that can hold as many shortcuts as you need. So I'm not seeing the need for a "home" menu in addition.
dcisive wrote:
Hype eh? Well its just Sony moving things down the road as all companies have to in order to stay on top. Sorry your precious A1 is lacking in any way shape or form. I see Nikon and Canon have been very generous with their rapid firmware updates which have from all I can see brought them right up to snuff with what the A1 is doing. Last I checked, since I don't do flying birds nor sports I have no issues finding a person's face and eye and tracking them, nor a mountain for a landscape shot. But on all the forums I see the A1 owners are ticked and lashing out at any improvements made by other manufacturers and even their little brother A7RV. As if someone stepped on their toes. I for the life of me, can't figure out WHY oh WHY people negative comments come from as if a electronic shutter is an absolute must have in order to carry on competent photography. As if all photographic exploits over the last 25 years or so are null and void.
We ALL have different specialties and needs in our day to day photographic use. Personally I tend to stick to weddings, events, portraits and landscapes and occasionally static wildlife and birds. For those the A7R5 is working just fine thank you....in Electronic Shutter without any bent subjects. I don't fast pan, nor am I dealing with fast shifting or moving subjects. Excuse me for not requiring super high speed tracking nor electronic shutter speed responses. Many of us DON"T. But I suppose it won't calm down the current rhetoric regarding the failings of lower life product. I guess we poor slow electronic shutter owners will just have to suffer through it. ..........NOT!...Show more →
This thread is about a rumoured major FW update to A1, it evades me why you want to turn it into another A1 vs A7RV debacle. Both cameras are great, just different. For most people A7RV AF will be good enough (slow-to-normal shooting) and even better in cluttered scenes due to AI (that's the hype part mentioned in the comment above, AI buzzword is all the jazz in "tech" marketing now) and they will also appreciate extra res and DR over fast ES and flash. The times are ch-changing though, especially on Sony forum where people have been using A9s for what seems like eternity now, and fast ES is something that's easy to get used to, for obvious (silence, fps, no LED banding / rolling shutter) and less obvious (no more silent/efcs/mechanical shuffling due to Sony backward implementation) reasons.
Getting back to the topic, it's only natural that people expect the flagship product to receive visible updates during its lifetime. Sony does not seem to believe so though .
wordfool wrote:
Looks a bit like the Function menu that's customizable and offers shortcuts to a dozen settings. And then we also have the "my menu" feature that can hold as many shortcuts as you need. So I'm not seeing the need for a "home" menu in addition.
It's similar but not the same. I can see it being useful (for people using the touch screen, the icons are bigger) as a home page, you don't have to though ...
Since fw1.31 keepers has dropped and often loses it
That is a great shot.
On topic, I didn’t think the new 1.31 was any better or worse than 1.20 for focus hit rate. I use a combo of wide/zone non tracking or small flex spot with tracking, all with bird eye or animal eye turned on depending on the situation. I thought 1.31 might grab the eye better, and have a few more false detections on other objects or body parts. Really hard to say for sure or do objective testing.
I do wish there was a way to downgrade in case a newer fw causes issues for someone.
dcisive wrote:
Hype eh? Well its just Sony moving things down the road as all companies have to in order to stay on top. Sorry your precious A1 is lacking in any way shape or form. I see Nikon and Canon have been very generous with their rapid firmware updates which have from all I can see brought them right up to snuff with what the A1 is doing. Last I checked, since I don't do flying birds nor sports I have no issues finding a person's face and eye and tracking them, nor a mountain for a landscape shot. But on all the forums I see the A1 owners are ticked and lashing out at any improvements made by other manufacturers and even their little brother A7RV. As if someone stepped on their toes. I for the life of me, can't figure out WHY oh WHY people negative comments come from as if a electronic shutter is an absolute must have in order to carry on competent photography. As if all photographic exploits over the last 25 years or so are null and void.
We ALL have different specialties and needs in our day to day photographic use. Personally I tend to stick to weddings, events, portraits and landscapes and occasionally static wildlife and birds. For those the A7R5 is working just fine thank you....in Electronic Shutter without any bent subjects. I don't fast pan, nor am I dealing with fast shifting or moving subjects. Excuse me for not requiring super high speed tracking nor electronic shutter speed responses. Many of us DON"T. But I suppose it won't calm down the current rhetoric regarding the failings of lower life product. I guess we poor slow electronic shutter owners will just have to suffer through it. ..........NOT!...Show more →
This would be a good time to step back and see how much of this hyperbole and broad-brush painting is justified.
dcisive wrote:
But on all the forums I see the A1 owners are ticked and lashing out at any improvements made by other manufacturers and even their little brother A7RV.
Weird. The only person lashing out here does not seem to own an A1.
dcisive wrote:
Hype eh? Well its just Sony moving things down the road as all companies have to in order to stay on top. Sorry your precious A1 is lacking in any way shape or form. I see Nikon and Canon have been very generous with their rapid firmware updates which have from all I can see brought them right up to snuff with what the A1 is doing. Last I checked, since I don't do flying birds nor sports I have no issues finding a person's face and eye and tracking them, nor a mountain for a landscape shot. But on all the forums I see the A1 owners are ticked and lashing out at any improvements made by other manufacturers and even their little brother A7RV. As if someone stepped on their toes. I for the life of me, can't figure out WHY oh WHY people negative comments come from as if a electronic shutter is an absolute must have in order to carry on competent photography. As if all photographic exploits over the last 25 years or so are null and void.
We ALL have different specialties and needs in our day to day photographic use. Personally I tend to stick to weddings, events, portraits and landscapes and occasionally static wildlife and birds. For those the A7R5 is working just fine thank you....in Electronic Shutter without any bent subjects. I don't fast pan, nor am I dealing with fast shifting or moving subjects. Excuse me for not requiring super high speed tracking nor electronic shutter speed responses. Many of us DON"T. But I suppose it won't calm down the current rhetoric regarding the failings of lower life product. I guess we poor slow electronic shutter owners will just have to suffer through it. ..........NOT!...Show more →
Who cares?? You're happy with the R5. I'm happy with the A1.
Seems like many of your posts are bashing A1 or A1 owners.
This comment seems overly defensive..."Many of us DON"T. But I suppose it won't calm down the current rhetoric regarding the failings of lower life product. I guess we poor slow electronic shutter owners will just have to suffer through it. ..........NOT!"
BTW... whether you believe it or not... the ES of the A1 might make your shots better. I mean if you had a choice (and money was equal)... wouldn't you choose a better ES??
Daran wrote:
Weird. The only person lashing out here does not seem to own an A1.
it's the same m4/3 troll that posted this thread on dpr :-0
"Here's a clip from a review from Ken Rockwell (he happens to be an electronic engineer and a long-standing camera fanatic like him or not) stating the what a why behind the superior APS-C image coming off the A7R5 and why it's better than any other camera in that mode including those that have the 24mp native rez sensors. As I tried to say before, but got slammed for saying it, the A7R5 is processing DIFFERENTLY than other cameras in this manner(sampling from the 61mp) and thereby produces a superior APC-C image result to all others including others in the Sony lineup." https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4693930
back in december he started this thread, claiming that he was returning his a7r5:
"The Sony is going back. The OM-1 for me will remain THE system I'll continue to use." https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1787843/0
osv2 wrote:
it's the same m4/3 troll that posted this thread on dpr :-0
"Here's a clip from a review from Ken Rockwell (he happens to be an electronic engineer and a long-standing camera fanatic like him or not) stating the what a why behind the superior APS-C image coming off the A7R5 and why it's better than any other camera in that mode including those that have the 24mp native rez sensors. As I tried to say before, but got slammed for saying it, the A7R5 is processing DIFFERENTLY than other cameras in this manner(sampling from the 61mp) and thereby produces a superior APC-C image result to all others including others in the Sony lineup." https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4693930
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