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Archive 2022 · Sigma 105mm 1.4 vs Nikon 85mm 1.4 G

  
 
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p.1 #1 · Sigma 105mm 1.4 vs Nikon 85mm 1.4 G


I am looking to purchase a portrait lens and am stuck deciding between these two (Sigma 105mm 1.4 vs Nikon 85mm 1.4 G). Focal length and weight difference is no problem...I'm just interested in overall quality of the photo. Does anyone have experience with both that could lend a suggestion?



Dec 04, 2022 at 07:02 PM
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p.1 #2 · Sigma 105mm 1.4 vs Nikon 85mm 1.4 G


I use a Nikon 1.4 85mm AF D alongside aSigma 1.4 105mm DG Art

Skipped the Nikon 1.4 85m G, didn't see any real advantage in upgrading at the time of its introduction as for all intent and purposes the built in focus motor and Nanon coating didn't really add something extra / make a huge difference for my style of photography. This also wasn't apparent in the online comparisons eg https://myimagez.com/blog/2015/6/nikon_85mm_review

I find the biggest difference between the Nikon AF D and the Sigma Art when used wide open.

The Sigma has the typical 'clinical' sharpness and contrast modern lenses like other Sigma Art and Sony GM lenses (to name a view the results I've seen first hand from)
https://a4.pbase.com/g12/20/670620/2/169216750.iWSwjHzE.jpg
( Z6 Sigma 1.4 105mm DG Art 1/4000s f/1.4 iso320)

The Nikon on the other hand is much more 'old school' with a softer, more gradual contrast and less bitingly sharp (even when stopped down a tiny little bit) , and yes, with in certain situations (bright background) risk of purple firnging (which of course can easiy be fixed in Nikon Capture (no doubt other software as well, but not experience wiht that)
https://a4.pbase.com/g13/20/670620/2/145046621.fbda2980.JPEG
(D800 1.4 85.0mm AF D 1/500s f/1.6 iso250

Stopped down any differnce (apart from angle of view, obviously due to the difference in focal length) becomes much less evident

The Nikon really becomes 'razor' sharp despite its age
https://a4.pbase.com/g9/20/670620/2/163023739.UuUQtl4y.jpg
(D800 1.4 85.0mm AF D 1/320s f/4.5 iso100)

while the Sigma remains as sharp and contrasty as should be expected
https://a4.pbase.com/g12/20/670620/2/171350081.ZZOlUGxe.jpg
( Z6 Sigma 1.4 105mm DG Art 1/1250s f/2.8 iso2000)

From a practical PoV though, the Ssigma is a big and heavy beast, especially on an ungripped Z body. The Nikon despite its also pretty big size (compared to a eg a 'classic' 2. /5 105mm Ai) fares much better in that respect, but of course unfortubately loses its AF on that type of camera (but manual focusing goes a lot easier with the much better implemented Focus Peaking on the Z6 compared to eg the D850 - although why use that on a D850 as the AF D can AF on that body - )

My 2 cents



Dec 04, 2022 at 07:49 PM
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p.1 #3 · Sigma 105mm 1.4 vs Nikon 85mm 1.4 G


Well, this is the opposite of what you were looking for I realize. I heard (but don't know firsthand) that the Nikon 85mm f1.4G was not sharp wide open and has chromatic aberration issues. I ended up buying the Sigma 85mm 1.4 before then buying the Nikon 105mm f1.4E. I love both. The Nikon 105 weighs less than the Sigma version. Some say the Sigma is sharper but I find the Nikon more than sharp enough for my use. The Sigma 85mm f1.4 is heavy, but I can't part with it.

Sigma 85mm f1.4 (but at f1.8):

https://photos.smugmug.com/Portraits/Young-Adults-Senior/i-PQHndG4/0/3ff3a4f7/4K/_DSC9018-4K.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Portraits/Individual-Environmental-Portraits/i-7hQsxBV/0/9f519677/4K/DSC_8045-Edit-2-4K.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Portraits/Individual-Environmental-Portraits/i-fQPsxJF/0/6103c8b5/X5/DSC_8040-X5.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Portraits/Individual-Environmental-Portraits/i-fjpFbkj/0/9d508b41/X5/DSC_8600-X5.jpg

Nikon 105mm f1.4E:

https://photos.smugmug.com/Portraits/Young-Adults-Senior/i-NZLnPB5/0/312711bc/X5/_DSC3023-X5.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Portraits/Family-Portraits/i-BZfbJWN/0/298de6e7/4K/_DSC4867-Edit-4K.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Portraits/Family-Portraits/i-8SbFD4V/0/a1e58ec7/X5/_DSC4898-X5.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Portraits/Couples/i-WV8ZLXt/0/ea43d77a/X5/_DSC6022-Edit-Edit-X5.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/Portraits/Young-Adults-Senior/i-xRBJthQ/0/5b0f8ca6/4K/_DSC8579-4K.jpg

Edited on Dec 05, 2022 at 03:32 AM · View previous versions



Dec 05, 2022 at 03:19 AM
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p.1 #4 · Sigma 105mm 1.4 vs Nikon 85mm 1.4 G


Just a quick note, but that image of the woman holding the moon is absolutely wonderful.


Dec 05, 2022 at 03:29 AM
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p.1 #5 · Sigma 105mm 1.4 vs Nikon 85mm 1.4 G


David Baldwin wrote:
Just a quick note, but that image of the woman holding the moon is absolutely wonderful.


Thank you! We were losing light and the moon was not cooperating with its location so I did have to move it in post......but fun nonetheless.



Dec 05, 2022 at 03:36 AM
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p.1 #6 · Sigma 105mm 1.4 vs Nikon 85mm 1.4 G


I own the 85mm 1.4G.
I don't own the Sigma 105 1.4 but I do own the Nikon 105mm 1.4 E (and the F2 DC and the 2.5 Ai-S).

Based on your stated criteria I'd figure the Sigma is the better choice; if you have a DSLR body you might have to fine tune the combo and/or be ready to handhold or tripod/monopod the lens for longer sessions.



Dec 05, 2022 at 03:22 PM
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p.1 #7 · Sigma 105mm 1.4 vs Nikon 85mm 1.4 G


If I wanted a prime lens with tripod collar I'd get the Nikon 200F2. You can't get me to buy the Sigma 105 1.4. I have the Nikon version and it's quite a good lens. I'd probably forgo the 85 1.4 Nikon and go with the Sigma version (things big as hell though).
D04_9110 by Marcus Beasley, on Flickr
D04_9144 by Marcus Beasley, on Flickr
D05_2079 by Marcus Beasley, on Flickr
D04_5759 by Marcus Beasley, on Flickr
Z09_1348 by Marcus Beasley, on Flickr
Z09_7965 by Marcus Beasley, on Flickr
D85_6211 by Marcus Beasley, on Flickr
D85_2366 by Marcus Beasley, on Flickr
I don't have any fast 85's though so can't really post anything.



Dec 05, 2022 at 05:55 PM
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p.1 #8 · Sigma 105mm 1.4 vs Nikon 85mm 1.4 G


The 85/1.4G certainly has its detractors, but I always thought it has wonderful character and liked it a lot. I say this having owned a couple of 200/2.0s and the 105/1.4E. I can't speak for the Sigma, aside from to say that the several Art-series lenses I've shot have been nice pieces of glass, if a little sterile.

C




  NIKON D810    85.0 mm f/1.4 lens    85mm    f/1.4    1/2500s    64 ISO    0.0 EV  






  NIKON D810    85.0 mm f/1.4 lens    85mm    f/1.4    1/4000s    64 ISO    0.0 EV  






  NIKON D700    85.0 mm f/1.4 lens    85mm    f/1.4    1/100s    6400 ISO    0.0 EV  






  NIKON D700    85.0 mm f/1.4 lens    85mm    f/1.4    1/160s    800 ISO    0.0 EV  






  NIKON D810    85.0 mm f/1.4 lens    85mm    f/1.6    1/2500s    64 ISO    0.0 EV  






  NIKON D810    85.0 mm f/1.4 lens    85mm    f/1.6    1/2500s    64 ISO    0.0 EV  






  NIKON D700    85.0 mm f/1.4 lens    85mm    f/1.4    1/60s    200 ISO    0.0 EV  



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Dec 06, 2022 at 01:25 AM
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p.1 #9 · Sigma 105mm 1.4 vs Nikon 85mm 1.4 G


Thanks for all the helpful input folks.


Dec 06, 2022 at 01:28 AM
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p.1 #10 · Sigma 105mm 1.4 vs Nikon 85mm 1.4 G


Chris Court wrote:
The 85/1.4 certainly has its detractors, but I always liked it a lot. I say this having owned and shot a couple of 200/2.0s and the 105/1.4E. Can't really speak for the Sigma, aside from to say that the several Art-series versions I've shot have been nice pieces of glass.

C


Gorgeous set!



Dec 06, 2022 at 01:31 AM
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p.1 #11 · Sigma 105mm 1.4 vs Nikon 85mm 1.4 G


urbanwild wrote:
Gorgeous set!


Well thank you! I was just admiring your wonderful shots as well

C




Dec 06, 2022 at 01:56 AM
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p.1 #12 · Sigma 105mm 1.4 vs Nikon 85mm 1.4 G


Hi,

I own the 105ART, I had the same mindset about not caring about the size. I shoot headshots and family/ HS Hr. Portraits, for headshots the 105 is MONEY. It paid for itself in the first year. For shoots that requires bringing a decent amount of gear with you, the size/weight DOES show up. I carry the 105 and a 70-200 2.8 on a shoot, that’s 7lbs just between them. I also have a 40mm Sigma which is 2.5lbs.

The more shoots I am doing the more I am “annoyed” at the size/weight as I shoot the Canon R6 so I don’t have the option of the Nikon 105mm size lens. I am not an 85mm fan, it’s “unoriginal” to me, I love 105/135 for outdoor shots. I picked up a RF100mm 2.8 macro so I could use that for an outdoor lens that was lighter, i can carry the 40mm/100mm for a much lighter rig. I am considering selling the 105 to fund the RF135.

For context, I am 6’4 275lb active guy so I am not a small man who can’t handle the size. I will say adding the battery grip to the R6 has really helped balance the weight but “she is a big girl !!”

My 2cts, save more money and get the Nikon 105 instead.

ronwilder wrote:
I am looking to purchase a portrait lens and am stuck deciding between these two (Sigma 105mm 1.4 vs Nikon 85mm 1.4 G). Focal length and weight difference is no problem...I'm just interested in overall quality of the photo. Does anyone have experience with both that could lend a suggestion?





Dec 06, 2022 at 08:58 PM
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p.1 #13 · Sigma 105mm 1.4 vs Nikon 85mm 1.4 G


I own both lenses. I love them each for different reasons!

Nikon Z6II + Nikkor 85mm 1.4G


Nikon Z6II + Sigma 105mm 1.4 ART



Dec 07, 2022 at 10:31 AM
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p.1 #14 · Sigma 105mm 1.4 vs Nikon 85mm 1.4 G


I shoot Sony but have the Sigma 105 f/1.4 ART........it's a laser and good rendering.


Dec 07, 2022 at 10:39 AM
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p.1 #15 · Sigma 105mm 1.4 vs Nikon 85mm 1.4 G


I have owned the 85mm 1.4D and own the Art 105mm 1.4. The Nikon 85mm 1.4's are great but I'd much rather have the Sigma 105mm 1.4. The resolution, contrast, and lack of aberrations is the standard by which other portrait lenses are judged. The clarity and realism of portraits taken in the studio and printed large are downright stunning with the Art 105mm 1.4.


Dec 08, 2022 at 08:03 PM
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p.1 #16 · Sigma 105mm 1.4 vs Nikon 85mm 1.4 G


I have/had Sigma 105/1.4, Nikon 85/1.4g, Nikon 105/1.4e

If I had to pick one, it would be the sigma 105. Heavy, modern rendering, stunning resolution and simply amazing.



Dec 10, 2022 at 04:30 PM
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p.1 #17 · Sigma 105mm 1.4 vs Nikon 85mm 1.4 G


Are you looking at F mount only?
One option would be to wait for 85/1.2S if you are using Nikon mirrorless.

I look at 85/1.4G in the past but decided to go with Nikon 105/1.4E instead. If there is ever
a support for AF-D lens for autofocus on Z bodies, I would be very interested in 85/1.4 AF-D.

I have quite a few Sigma Art glasses but not the 105/1.4. However, I think there is a common trend among all the Art lenses. Great sharpness and contrast, bokeh is good for F1.4 but not outstanding.
Nikon F1.8 lines behave a bit more like Art line but the F1.4 lines have a different priority.

If the 50/1.2S is anything to judge by for F1.2 line, I think it has the best of both world, sharpness and rendition (at the cost of size and weight unfortunately).



Dec 10, 2022 at 08:34 PM





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