p.10 #1 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2
Fred Miranda wrote:
The Voigtlander 35/1.5 has 4 aspherical surfaces though. The 35/1.4 ZM is really amazing from wide open across the image field (on a M body), but it's a big 35mm lens. I'm not expecting the new Voigt to perform as well as the Zeiss.
Are we sure the Zeiss' 2 elements are single sided aspherics?
Zeiss themselves don't share much but I guess if they were double-sided aspheric they would make a big deal of it.
Who knows, double-sided aspherics might be the secret sauce. They could be relying on software correction of lateral CA like the new 28mm Ultron and hence no need for FCD100/FPL53/FPL55 glasses etc.
EDIT: I see the Ultron has 2 elements with partial anomalous dispersion so I'm a little nervous about this new Nokton.
If there's anything I know from my foray into astronomy it's that flourite-like glass is really amazing for colour but very expensive.
p.10 #2 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2
nehemiahphoto wrote:
Odd it’s coming so shortly, it can be pre-ordered, and we have so few samples.
thrice wrote:
My experience is that the Cosina sample images are very thin on the ground for new lens releases. The ones provided by Cosina are usually not good for assessing the quality of the lens.
Voigtlander have a great German instagram presence, they should really seed new lenses to reviewers before launch to build hype.
I think they kind of did that with the 50/1. But maybe because it's more of a halo type lens than a regular old 35/1.5 and got special treatment. The 50/1 also had fairly decent pre-release sample images from which to glean technical performance.
p.10 #3 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2
rscheffler wrote:
I'd wait until Map have stock and try again. It's possible they don't want to mix Buyee pre-orders with regular customer pre-orders. It's interesting though because it appears that Buyee is somehow affiliated with the company that owns Map Camera (according to the link from Juha some posts back), so you'd think there might be tighter integration, or preferential treatment.
Juha Kannisto wrote:
I think Map Camera should not have motivation to cancel Buyee pre-orders unless there is some restriction on their sales contract with Cosina that disallows them from shipping the lens(es) outside of Japan or to specific countries since Cosina has official distributors in various other countries...
I've read that they are also apparently selling quite a bit to foreign tourists visiting Japan now on the strength of weak yen (especially Canon cameras that have no user interface language restrictions on Japanese models).
It would be good to find out if other CV lenses that are in stock can be ordered successfully through Buyee. ...Show more →
I didn't touch on that because I am hoping that's not the case and didn't want to motivate various Voigtlander distributors to complain to Cosina about lost sales... maybe shouldn't have posted about Buyee in the first place. That said, there are other services that apparently do not reveal to the store that they are a proxy buying service, which should get around such restrictions.
I agree the only way to know is to order some other Voigtlander product to test the theory. I'd do it but the only lens I really want, the 28/2 v2, is currently out of stock.
Another workaround, if indeed it's a 'geofencing' problem, is to buy used Voigtlander from Map which shouldn't be under the same restrictions. But that hinges on them having used inventory. They usually do have quite a selection of more popular lenses, but for something like the 35/1.5, it'll probably take a bit of time before they get trade-ins.
p.10 #4 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2
rscheffler wrote:
I didn't touch on that because I am hoping that's not the case and didn't want to motivate various Voigtlander distributors to complain to Cosina about lost sales... maybe shouldn't have posted about Buyee in the first place. That said, there are other services that apparently do not reveal to the store that they are a proxy buying service, which should get around such restrictions.
I agree the only way to know is to order some other Voigtlander product to test the theory. I'd do it but the only lens I really want, the 28/2 v2, is currently out of stock.
Another workaround, if indeed it's a 'geofencing' problem, is to buy used Voigtlander from Map which shouldn't be under the same restrictions. But that hinges on them having used inventory. They usually do have quite a selection of more popular lenses, but for something like the 35/1.5, it'll probably take a bit of time before they get trade-ins....Show more →
Yeah, in this case since Buyee seems to be officially affiliated with Map Camera online store there may be more controls about what they can or can't deliver...
I'm not sure if it is possible to buy from them via any proxy services. They are my 2nd go-to-shop for Voigtländer lenses in Tokyo besides Map Camera. They seem to be close to Cosina in terms of supply and their blog has done visits to Cosina with report posts. They often have good in-stock status and their 2nd hand lenses are often priced attractively (typically lower than at Map). I've never bought from their online store but I visit their physical store in Nakano (1 stop by train from Shinjuku) quite often.
I suppose 28/2 v2 will come back to stock in Map in a few weeks too.
p.10 #6 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2
thrice wrote:
My experience is that the Cosina sample images are very thin on the ground for new lens releases. The ones provided by Cosina are usually not good for assessing the quality of the lens.
Voigtlander have a great German instagram presence, they should really seed new lenses to reviewers before launch to build hype.
That’s the trend in my experience as well. But I feel like this is sparse, even by CV standards.
p.10 #7 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2
Fred Miranda wrote:
Yes, it's a concern but there is more to vignetting than just the filter thread size. The optical design plays a role as well but we should expect noticeable optical vignetting with cats-eye highlights towards the edge. If it's the same level as the CV 28/2 II Ultron, it would be a great achievement imo.
Fred, I think you have the CV 35 1.4 v2? Any chance in comparing that to this 35 1.5? $600 new vs $900 new.
p.10 #8 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2
Desmolicious wrote:
Sorry, 9 pages long... has the 39mm front filter size already been discussed?
39mm seems awfully small for a 1.5 lens. Leica's FLE uses a 46mm filter. The CV 35 1.4 v2 is 43mm.
Is this new 35 1.5 going to be the vignette king?
The 35/1.4 Apoqualia uses a 37mm thread…here’s a couple WO. If this new CV 35/1.5 corrects outlining better than the Apoqualia and can offer similar optical vignetting, might be fine. edit: similar at f2, these are WO. I hate posting from my phone.
p.10 #9 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2
nehemiahphoto wrote:
The 35/1.4 Apoqualia uses a 37mm thread…here’s a couple WO. If this new CV 35/1.5 corrects outlining better than the Apoqualia and can offer similar optical vignetting, might be fine.
The vignetting looks crazy heavy on the first three!
But to be fair, I don't think we can use anything made by MS Optics as a bench mark
p.10 #13 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2
nehemiahphoto wrote:
The 35/1.4 Apoqualia uses a 37mm thread…here’s a couple WO. If this new CV 35/1.5 corrects outlining better than the Apoqualia and can offer similar optical vignetting, might be fine. edit: similar at f2, these are WO. I hate posting from my phone.
Ps the pics of the kids are wonderful! Esp the first one.
p.10 #15 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2
I am *really* looking forward to this lens.
I recently bought a Leica M8 and am struggling to find my ideal lens pairing with it. The 35mm lenses are either too slow (35/2 Ultron), too big (35/1.4 TTartisan, 7artisans) or not modern enough (35/1.4 Nokton Classic).
This lens seems to strike the right balance for me in terms of speed, size, and handling. I was just looking around for an Ultron 35/1.7 until I heard about this one.
Now - do I get the glossy (brass) or matte black (aluminum) finish? It will be going on a black chrome M8, but I love the look of glossy black paint. In the end, the matching finish and lighter weight might win out.
p.10 #16 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2
Heavily considering this lens. I just picked up a M10-R and while I usually gravitate towards 50mm, I’m thinking about finding a 35mm for this body as a chance to re-familiarize (since I’ll usually have enough space to crop down in most instances.)
A good friend of mine suggested hunting down a 35mm Summicron on the used market, but the price point of this Voigtlander makes me inclined to try it out first. Besides, I can always return it to CameraQuest if it doesn’t work for me...
p.10 #19 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2
Have pre-ordered one and am excited to see how it performs. The weight of the aluminium one is almost too good to be true?!
I hope it’s like the 75/1.5: bit dreamy wide open and sharpening up as you close down. I find these characteristics really useful for my day to day stuff. If the 35mm is like that I could have my ideal 2 lens team.
Shame about the chrome filter ring. This is definitely a negative. I recently swapped the e mount for the m mount VM APO 50mm and I have noticed a flare when light is reflected up from the ground. I now have to use a filter on that lens…
p.10 #20 · Voigtländer Nokton Vintage Line 35/1.5 VM I & II and Nikon Z Apo-Lanthar 65/2
Mine should be shipping tomorrow and arrive on Thursday morning (11/24) Japan time. I have personal holidays on Thursday and Friday this week (after Wednesday's national holiday) so I'm hoping to get some sample shots with the lens on my Sony A7C later this week (can't get any on M cameras since I don't have those). Weather forecast doesn't look so good for Thursday though.
maybe shouldn't have posted about Buyee in the first place. That said, there are other services that apparently do not reveal to the store that they are a proxy buying service, which should get around such restrictions.
