1bwana1 wrote:
My Wife was offered a black M11 today in the Leica Store Copenhagen for just $7300. Way less expensive than here. She wanted to buy it for me, but I passed. Still loving my M10-P and I am concerned about shooting 60 mpx without IBIS.
Yeah those in the know buy new from overseas. My jam are the film Leicas, and a new MP is $4200 if you buy it from England! That is way less than what people are asking for used ones on the b&s board. Plus Leica’s warranty is world wide so no issues with that.
Also they are in stock, while here you wait months for one.
The current one already has a built-in hood, so if Leica is also keeping the same optical design, the only difference may be a change to 11-aperture blades and shorter MFD.
I think Leica heard me say that now the 35 has been ordered it is the last lens I needed for my lens kit. There are other lenses I want but wanting is not needing.
To consider upgrading my Lux 50 makes me understand the angst the 35 Lux owners had. My Lux 50 is my favourite lens and I do not know if the shorter MFD and 11 blades would give me the same satisfaction as my current Lux 50.
Defeinetly a trend is occurring since the 35APO by having a shorter MFD.
The current one already has a built-in hood, so if Leica is also keeping the same optical design, the only difference may be a change to 11-aperture blades and shorter MFD.
I had only heard the 50 Lux rumor, so I was surprised to see the 35 Lux updated first. The 50 Lux with shorter MFD be a big deal (to me anyway) since I don't think there are any current production CV or ZM 50mm M lenses that can focus below 0.7m.
highdesertmesa wrote:
I had only heard the 50 Lux rumor, so I was surprised to see the 35 Lux updated first. The 50 Lux with shorter MFD be a big deal (to me anyway) since I don't think there are any current production CV or ZM 50mm M lenses that can focus below 0.7m.
The CV 50/1.5 Heliar focuses @ 0.5m!
It looks like rangefinder technology is close to perfection so Leica is focusing on 'liveview' features for their new M bodies and also improving their lenses for liveview shooting.
Fred Miranda wrote:
The CV 50/1.5 Heliar focuses @ 0.5m!
It looks like rangefinder technology is close to perfection so Leica is focusing on 'liveview' features for their new M bodies and also improving their lenses for liveview shooting.
Aaahhh, 0.5m MFD, AND it has a built-in full-strength Black Pro Mist filter! I totally missed the MFD in the review thread – perhaps I was mesmerized by the crazy bokeh.
Wouldn't it be cool if they are working on a better rangefinder that somehow can adjust for parallax at these close distances? Maybe it's physically impossible, IDK.
Regarding the use of a 35mm lens at distances closer than 0.7m, I remembered an article, with images, posted by Jonathan Slack, showing the same scene, shot at the MFD of the several APO M lenses, that included images shot at both 0.7m and 0.3m with the then-newly-announced APO Summicron-M 35mm ASPH. One thing I recalled is that the APO Summicron-M 75mm ASPH has quite good magnification, such that a shot at 0.7m will magnify a subject almost as much as will the APO Summicron-M 35mm ASPH at 0.3m.
I had already been on the look-out for a decent, pre-owned APO Summicron-M 75mm ASPH, anyway, so, this article, and images, helped me to decide against pursuing the new APO Summicron-M 35mm ASPH. Early 2022 became a time to buy a beautifully well-preserved, pre-owned APO 75mm ‘Cron, and also acquire a most wonderful Elmar-M 24mm ASPH, rather than get onto a waiting list for a closer-focusing 35mm f/2 lens.
So, it is not that I will never buy a close-focusing 35mm M lens, but simply that there is no rush. A closer-focusing 50mm lens would, certainly, be another factor that would affect a perceived need for a closer-focusing 35mm lens
helimat wrote:
There is a 'slight perceptible resistance' at 0.7m. According to the press release
That's very useful when focusing with the rangefinder at MFD. With Voigtlander lenses capable of focusing closer than 0.7m, I hear a slightly "click" when focusing closer than the rangefinder range.
Fred Miranda wrote:
That's very useful when focusing with the rangefinder at MFD. With Voigtlander lenses capable of focusing closer than 0.7m, I hear a slightly "click" when focusing closer than the rangefinder range.
Oh for sure. There was one VM lens I had for a bit that offered no feedback when dropping below 0.7m, was pretty annoying... 35/1.2 maybe??
Fred Miranda wrote:
That's very useful when focusing with the rangefinder at MFD. With Voigtlander lenses capable of focusing closer than 0.7m, I hear a slightly "click" when focusing closer than the rangefinder range.
For real? I never heard a click when passing 0.7m on CV lenses:
I just tested the cv 28/2 II and can feel and hear a click. It’s very subtle but it’s there. When I feel it, it’s an indication that the lens focus moved beyond the RF coupling. Of course it only works with lenses that focus closer than 0.7m.
highdesertmesa wrote:
For real? I never heard a click when passing 0.7m on CV lenses:
Just checked the cv 21/1.4 and it works the same way. Pay attention when focusing a bit closer than 0.6m. It’s a subtle click. That’s when the RF quits.
Fred Miranda wrote:
Just checked the cv 21/1.4 and it works the same way. Pay attention when focusing a bit closer than 0.6m. It’s a subtle click. That’s when the RF quits.
I usually turn until the resistance of focus ring suddenly lesson and turn backward to "feel" when the lens get in contact with rangefinder arm.
retrofocus wrote:
+1. Also my first thought when reading the specs. I don't like the pull-out hood in my 50/2 Vers. V Summicron either. Too flimsy and often doesn't sit straight when pulled out and the camera/lens is moved.
When I had the pre adph 1.4 50 Summilux the slide out hood was useless, barely came beyond the UV filter. Used a third party 'traditional' vented one
I got mine (black) by luck in Copenhagen last week while visiting. At the time they had 2 silver in stock and I believe they had 1-2 more black come in last week.
ArchnemeSwiss wrote:
If anyone has info on a UK or Europe store with any supply of these, I’d love to know! Many thanks.
Fred Miranda wrote:
Just checked the cv 21/1.4 and it works the same way. Pay attention when focusing a bit closer than 0.6m. It’s a subtle click. That’s when the RF quits.
Ah, so you’re hearing the camera/lens interaction, not a click feature of the lens. I guess I must have listened to too much loud music in my youth to hear it
With lenses that focus closer than 0.7 and I want to shoot at MFD with the rangefinder: I move the lens from sub-0.7 toward 0.7 until I see the patch move, then I move myself/the camera to focus.
highdesertmesa wrote:
Ah, so you’re hearing the camera/lens interaction, not a click feature of the lens. I guess I must have listened to too much loud music in my youth to hear it
With lenses that focus closer than 0.7 and I want to shoot at MFD with the rangefinder: I move the lens from sub-0.7 toward 0.7 until I see the patch move, then I move myself/the camera to focus.
Somehow I can hear it all the time when I want to focus at 0.7m but like I wrote, it's subtle. I wish Cosina introduces more resistance for the RF MFD point with newer lenses.
I totally missed the MFD in the review thread – perhaps I was mesmerized by the crazy bokeh.