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61MP Sony A7R V specifications leaked

  
 
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p.9 #1 · 61MP Sony A7R V specifications leaked


offtraildog wrote:
I've seen a couple presentations by Peter Karbe and he consistently states their lens design philosophy wide open = best IQ. "Never stop down if you don't need depth of field, please!"

Sigma's CEO discusses a preference for rendering in their design of the DG DN

It seems reasonable that Sony and others might have different lens design goals

Well, above discussed 135GM is sharp wide open, too. It just isn't as sharp, particularly in the outer areas. I'd be rather surprised if you could not also find some small sharpness improvement on the Sigma when stopping it down a tad. That said, for typical types of photography the DOF would usually be more relevant for the result than minute differences in sharpness in the outer image area.



Oct 18, 2022 at 07:19 AM
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p.9 #2 · 61MP Sony A7R V specifications leaked



https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/confirmed-the-new-sony-a7rv-has-8-stop-ibis-and-a-fully-articulating-screen/#disqus_thread

R-series is landscape oriented, so I hope for a successor for my RIII for landscape photography.

Same 61MP sensor because all the power goes to the new processor.
--> Same sensor is a huge disapointment because I did not like the sensor of the current RIV very much. In my opinion the sensor of the RIII is better.

TOTALLY New Autofocus system with AI deep learning
--> I don't care.

8k 24p (cropped)
--> I don't care

4k60p 4k24p (full read out)
--> I don't care

heat sink
--> Interesting: Could possibly reduce colour noise in long time exposures (longer than 30 sec).

S cinetone is available
--> I don't care

8 stop IBIS
--> Interesting. Normally I get perfectly sharp images at exposure times of 1/focal length x 2.
On all the A7 models I know, the IBIS helps (with a lot of luck and a stable stand) to get sharp images at shutter speeds of 1/focal length (--> 1 stop). With tele lenses sometimes 2 stops.
If the new IBIS would really brings 2 stops, which I don't believe, then that would be a revolution for Sony.
To claim that the IBIS would bring 4 or now 8 stops is actually a deliberate misleading of customers.

Fully articulating LCD screen
--> In my opinion a disadvantage, but highly subjective...

Body looks like a mix between the Sony A7sIII and Sony A7IV.
--> Bigger means worse for travelling.



Oct 18, 2022 at 08:52 AM
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p.9 #3 · 61MP Sony A7R V specifications leaked


From SAR

CONFIRMED: The new Sony A7rV has 8 stop IBIS and a fully articulating LCD screen!

Im not a big fan of a Fully articulating screen myself. My bet 3499 US

I have no dog in this race and actually don't care but I always want to see good product hit the streets



Oct 18, 2022 at 09:24 AM
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p.9 #4 · 61MP Sony A7R V specifications leaked


I guess eventually all new Sony models will have the fully articulated LCD screen…. A bit mixed about that myself, but imagine will eventually adapt.


Oct 18, 2022 at 10:18 AM
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p.9 #5 · 61MP Sony A7R V specifications leaked


goo0h wrote:
I guess eventually all new Sony models will have the fully articulated LCD screen…. A bit mixed about that myself, but imagine will eventually adapt.


Im just not comfortable with a bigger chance to get snapped off. When in the thick of a shoot running around sometimes bad things can happen. I don't shoot video where this may count more. But that's me and I can certainly see a mixed reaction to it.



Oct 18, 2022 at 10:34 AM
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p.9 #6 · 61MP Sony A7R V specifications leaked


If this spec list is true it helps confirm I did the right thing (for me) in picking up a used A1 to replace my A7R4 & A9. Should be here by the end of the week. A9 is already sold, need the A7R4 for a shoot so need the A1 to get here first, but I don't see this spec list shooting down the used value of my A7R4 like it would have had this thing been some 90MP monster.

That said I hope the A7R5 is an upgrade in all ways and does well. Might be like the A9II upgrade where the specs on paper don't look like much, but practically it was a good upgrade for some.



Oct 18, 2022 at 10:52 AM
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p.9 #7 · 61MP Sony A7R V specifications leaked


I posted this at the rumors site, but that's a garbage forum compared to Fred's. I'm much more interested in the takes here.

When it comes to Sony full frame releases, I've been sitting on the sidelines for awhile. I purchased the a7r3 upon release, which itself was an upgrade from the a7r2 that I also got at release. Tech has improved across many Sony cameras since then--almost too many to count. I've been tempted many times to buy the latest, but there's never a clear winner (aside from a1 which is still out of my budget). Which brings me to the point of this post.

I'm really struggling to understand the Sony segmentation and staggered release strategy. How many full frame cameras are needed? There's the a1 which is all anyone needs, but at significant cost. R was supposed to push the limits on resolution, but it only does that every other release? a9 is for speed? But so is the a1? a7 is "everyman" camera that gets new stuff and a new higher price each release. a7s for video? But there are so many other video choices now in sony lineup. a7c is small but nerfed a7 without a team of engineers to update it?

Why can't we have a lineup that looks more like the one below, and refresh more cams at the same time? The current release strategy is annoying and a mess. All these cams should have the same very good to excellent video production features. For exceptional video specs, people should move to the cinema lines: fx3, fx30, and better.

Three lines of full frame cameras:

a1 - 50 mpx, fast as hell, incredible AF, use Mraw or Sraw for smaller files.
a7r - 60-100 mpx, fast, excellent af, use Mraw and Sraw for smaller files.
a7c - 36-42 mpx, fast enough, great af, software for smaller files, don't skimp on ergos and buttons, keep the slightly smaller form factor

That's it. That's all that's needed in full frame. Update each line every three years when tech advances enough. Update all three at or close to the same time so there isn't so much ridiculous feature segmentation.

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Oct 18, 2022 at 10:58 AM
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p.9 #8 · 61MP Sony A7R V specifications leaked


Not that I own one but I do and I look at this and agree totally given you can get one at a reasonable cost and if you are a serious shooter the A1 seems to me the best option. Lets day this is 3500 bucks and that maybe a low number its really not much more for a A1. Folks I don't shoot birds or wildlife so get that argument out of the conversation its just the most versatile body in play right now. This rumor lets call it since I can't hold it in my hand to confirm does not seem on the surface the best option. Sure some features and abilities are added and that's always good but im just not sure its will measure up. BUT I could be wrong so lets see what is announced


Oct 18, 2022 at 10:58 AM
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p.9 #9 · 61MP Sony A7R V specifications leaked


Justin Stone wrote:
I posted this at the rumors site, but that's a garbage forum compared to Fred's. I'm much more interested in the takes here.

When it comes to Sony full frame releases I've been sitting on the sidelines for awhile. Since I purchased the a7r3 upon release, which itself was an upgrade from the a7r2 that I also got at release. Tech has improved across many Sony cameras since then--almost too many to count. Which brings me to the point of this post.

I'm really struggling to understand the Sony segmentation and staggered release strategy. How many full frame cameras
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Well we still need a rocket 24mpx for the journalist type shooter and maybe even the wedding folks as they don't normally even shoot RAW. But I agree it needs to be more streamlined in options



Oct 18, 2022 at 11:00 AM
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p.9 #10 · 61MP Sony A7R V specifications leaked


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Very underwhelming if true. Feels like the A9 to A9 II upgrade or am I missing something? I’m not taking about resolution which is fine, more the feature set for the target group.


not that underwhelming..... but if I were to get a high MP camera at this point, it would be an A1 and skip this



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p.9 #11 · 61MP Sony A7R V specifications leaked


Justin Stone wrote:
When it comes to Sony full frame releases, I've been sitting on the sidelines for awhile. I purchased the a7r3 upon release, which itself was an upgrade from the a7r2 that I also got at release. Tech has improved across many Sony cameras since then--almost too many to count. I've been tempted many times to buy the latest, but there's never a clear winner (aside from a1 which is still out of my budget)..


That’s exactly me as well.

I tried the 7c, and overall was ok about it. (Honestly, if the viewfinder was just a bit better I might be more enthusiastic because I’ve always had a fondness for rangefinder-style shooting.) However, aside from faster AF, in some respects the 7c seemed to be a downgrade from my rIII that I was reluctant to take. So, I remain in limbo and occasionally switch to MF because AF misses too often….








Oct 18, 2022 at 12:46 PM
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p.9 #12 · 61MP Sony A7R V specifications leaked


Actually, I like the general lineup of Sony-fullframe cameras (A7= allrounder, A7r=high MP, A9=reportage workhorse, A7s=videocentric, A7c=compact rangefinder, A1=the supercam, doing it all, for the ones can afford it). Of course especially the A7c could sell better with a frontwheel, a joystick and a better EVF!
But I like to mention that not all professional photographer wordlwide are financially so well equipped to buy two Sony A1 for their business! Shotkit made a very interesting survey among photographers and the most used mirrorless camera among professionels is still the A7III (6,83%) followed in Sonyland by the A7IV (2,73%) and then A1 (2,43%).
Here the link, if somebody is interested:
https://shotkit.com/camera-survey/

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Oct 18, 2022 at 01:56 PM
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p.9 #13 · 61MP Sony A7R V specifications leaked


I’m in the process of upgrading from an A7R2 to A7IV and I’m buying their reasoning for their FF line segmentation. Few comments during my experience:

- even if the R line updates MP every other generation, older R models still trump other “feasible” cameras in terms of megapixels and stills quality. Staying at 61mp for 2 generations is not going to hurt anyone.

- The A1 is not a “feasible” camera for non-professionals yet. It’s amazing, and I’m sure some hobbyists will be able to afford it, but it’s ability and price are in a different stratosphere that make comparisons or justifications hard. The A9x is still a more feasible choice for speed, A7Sx for video, and A7Rx for stills. I tried to convince myself to just jump into an A1 because I want high resolution and good video, but with a used price of 2k-3k higher than my other options, I just couldn’t do it.

- not all video is created equal, even though all cameras offer some similar resolutions and frame rates. Minor differences in bits, coding, rolling shutter, cooling, low light sensitivity can really add up depending on what you want to do. The lower cinema lines seem all about the ability to create a video rig with easy and portable XLR audio, video out, focus follow, etc.

- the A7x line has always done an amazing job of splitting differences for entry level / hybrid shooters but not excelling at one thing enough. So even if you buy an A7x and love the shit out of it, you’re still in the market for an “upgrade” to one or many of the A7Rx, A7Sx, or A9 before you can afford the A1 unicorn.

Their line segmentation and prices really makes you think about your use cases while still offering GAS for other camera models after you get any of their cameras. I don’t think they want you to just buy one camera, unless it’s the unaffordable A1.


Justin Stone wrote:
I posted this at the rumors site, but that's a garbage forum compared to Fred's. I'm much more interested in the takes here.

When it comes to Sony full frame releases, I've been sitting on the sidelines for awhile. I purchased the a7r3 upon release, which itself was an upgrade from the a7r2 that I also got at release. Tech has improved across many Sony cameras since then--almost too many to count. I've been tempted many times to buy the latest, but there's never a clear winner (aside from a1 which is still out of my budget). Which brings
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Oct 18, 2022 at 01:57 PM
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p.9 #14 · 61MP Sony A7R V specifications leaked


I am looking to add a A7IV to the fleet as well. I am a hybrid shooter and the A7IV checks all the right boxes (for what I do currently). Right now, I can get a new A7IV body from B&H at a good price with EDU discount and PayBoo tax-free. I might wait for the A7RV to be announced first to see if there's a price drop on the IV, though. I can still wait a bit.

More MPs and more firepower don't always benefit video shooters. My computer for sure won't be able to handle whatever incredible video specs the V gen cameras are going to have.



Oct 18, 2022 at 02:52 PM
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p.9 #15 · 61MP Sony A7R V specifications leaked


I'm fine with or without IBIS. Not on my list of desired features. However, I would like to know the details of the rumored 8 Stop IBIS. How did Sony go from 5 Stop to 8 Stop? We've read for years 5 Stop IBIS might be the limit on Sony Emount--but the internet has been wrong about what Emount can and can't do more than a few times 😉


Oct 18, 2022 at 03:26 PM
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p.9 #16 · 61MP Sony A7R V specifications leaked


So many Sony cameras, jeez. Every year! Does Apple run Sony now?


Oct 18, 2022 at 03:41 PM
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LBJ2 wrote:
I'm fine with or without IBIS. Not on my list of desired features. However, I would like to know the details of the rumored 8 Stop IBIS. How did Sony go from 5 Stop to 8 Stop? We've read for years 5 Stop IBIS might be the limit on Sony Emount--but the internet has been wrong about what Emount can and can't do more than a few times 😉


Hopefully this means that they're finally going to support dual IS properly on long lenses (and esp. hope that set of lenses supported includes the 200-600mm). I'll be very surprised if that's true (Sony hasn't formerly seemed to care much about stabilization being competitive) but happy : )



Oct 18, 2022 at 04:45 PM
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p.9 #18 · 61MP Sony A7R V specifications leaked


Seeing the results online about the Hasselblad X2D 100C's 7 stops of in-body image stabilization has me interested in how good the a7R V might be.


Oct 18, 2022 at 10:16 PM
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p.9 #19 · 61MP Sony A7R V specifications leaked


LostBoyNZ wrote:
Seeing the results online about the Hasselblad X2D 100C's 7 stops of in-body image stabilization has me interested in how good the a7R V might be.


Showing, I suppose, that having a large sensor isn't a barrier if you care enough



Oct 18, 2022 at 10:35 PM
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p.9 #20 · 61MP Sony A7R V specifications leaked


Sony being Sony, their emphasis is often on certain features that catches most headlines like the kinds of autofocus improvement, higher fps, higher resolution, video specs and sensor performance. Not saying these aren't important but Sony sometimes neglects and keep neglecting features that are not as high in demand or don't generate as much hype such as, focus bracketing, intervalometer, touch interface, etc.. Intervalometer was added very late and the touch interface was completed very slowly. I believe both were done only under peer pressure. The r line being more photographic centric, it would make sense if Sony adds the FB feature in the r line first. However, Sony being Sony, I don't have much hope for this in the upcoming A7r v.

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