racetratr wrote:
Nothing in this list seems like a compelling reason for me to spend thousands of dollars to upgrade from the A7R4. If this rumor is true, it will probably cement my decision to go to Fuji GFX.
I know most people don't care, but I was waiting and hoping for more resolution (and focus stacking). I'll take all the pixels I can reasonably afford, for printing, software perspective control, and fewer aliasing artifacts. We know Sony has a higher rez sensor; I wonder what they plan to do with it, and when?
If I were guessing, I'd say they will use the 100MP sensor when the next generation or two of processing chips come out that can, with no increased power consumption, handle the throughput better than the current generation A7r4 which, while fine, is feeling a little sluggish operationally compared to the A1 and A74. The ancillary electronics in the A74 and A1 would probably, when combined with the 100MP chip, give similar operational smoothness to the current A7r4.
You may prefer 100MP with that trade-off, and many other people would too, but I'm guessing Sony would assume that people would say it was a step backwards. So it may be a few years yet before we see 100mp in an FF body (and if the rumour of Sony developing medium format are true, they may never do that!)
Or, of course, the rumour is wrong and so am I and the r5 will be 100MP!
TravelinBriNY wrote:
I wonder if they hold off on releasing the A7RV until they fix the A7IV eye AF issue...
Huh? I thought they already fixed that per firmware?
DavidBM wrote:
If I were guessing, I'd say they will use the 100MP sensor when the next generation or two of processing chips come out that can, with no increased power consumption, handle the throughput better than the current generation A7r4 which, while fine, is feeling a little sluggish operationally compared to the A1 and A74. The ancillary electronics in the A74 and A1 would probably, when combined with the 100MP chip, give similar operational smoothness to the current A7r4.
You may prefer 100MP with that trade-off, and many other people would too, but I'm guessing Sony would assume that people would say it was a step backwards. So it may be a few years yet before we see 100mp in an FF body (and if the rumour of Sony developing medium format are true, they may never do that!)
Or, of course, the rumour is wrong and so am I and the r5 will be 100MP!...Show more →
The rumors of the Canon 100 MP body seems to be picking up steam again. Will be interesting to see what the next Sony higher resolution body will be.
Daran wrote:
Huh? I thought they already fixed that per firmware?
Not really, no - by Dpreview:
"Firmware V1.01 for the Sony a7 IV included the promise that it ‘improves the accuracy of the Eye AF feature.’ Since this was one of the criticisms that held back the score of our review, we re-tested the camera to see whether the tendency to fractionally front-focus in eye AF mode has been resolved.
We confirmed with Sony that the update was intended to address Eye AF however it was activated; whether by assigning a button to the function or through its automatic use when ‘Face/Eye Priority in AF’ is turned on.’
Having tested the camera with multiple subjects and a number of lenses, we found the eye AF function can still tend to focus on eyelashes, rather than the subject’s pupil. It’s something you’ll only tend to see when shooting at fairly wide apertures but we still found we could get better results with manual focus."
"Firmware V1.01 for the Sony a7 IV included the promise that it ‘improves the accuracy of the Eye AF feature.’ Since this was one of the criticisms that held back the score of our review, we re-tested the camera to see whether the tendency to fractionally front-focus in eye AF mode has been resolved.
We confirmed with Sony that the update was intended to address Eye AF however it was activated; whether by assigning a button to the function or through its automatic use when ‘Face/Eye Priority in AF’ is turned on.’
Having tested the camera with multiple subjects and a number of lenses, we found the eye AF function can still tend to focus on eyelashes, rather than the subject’s pupil. It’s something you’ll only tend to see when shooting at fairly wide apertures but we still found we could get better results with manual focus."...Show more →
AFAIR, on the FB group about this issue most, if not, all people reported an improvement to varying extent. From the posted samples, eyeAF accuracy after the update seems "good enough" to me.
I mean you can nearly always get even better focus if you fine tune via MF, regardless of the camera...
New Sony A7R V rumor specs from SAR. It's not that different from the rumors we got back in May on this thread.
Same 61MP sensor because all the power goes to the new processor.
TOTALLY New Autofocus system with AI deep learning
8k 24p (cropped)
4k60p 4k24p (full read out)
S cinetone is available
8 stop IBIS (unclear yet if “native” or with “gyro data”)
Body looks like a mix between the Sony A7sIII and Sony A7IV.
Fred Miranda wrote:
New Sony A7R V rumor specs from SAR. It's not that different from the rumors we got back in May on this thread.
Same 61MP sensor because all the power goes to the new processor.
TOTALLY New Autofocus system with AI deep learning
8k 24p (cropped)
4k60p 4k24p (full read out)
S cinetone is available
8 stop IBIS (unclear yet if “native” or with “gyro data”)
Body looks like a mix between the Sony A7sIII and Sony A7IV.
Does that mean the body is smallish, about A9 size?
Also, 8 stops of IBIS, if true, would be a very attractive feature for me, whose tripod is covered with a thick layer of dust.
Take that slow, dumpy readout and move along, Sony Hopefully he meant same resolution and not same part number as the R4. New CPUs won't overcome math.
Probably a decent upgrade for some, but I guess I'll be waiting for the RVI
Personally, I'd have preferred somewhere in the neighborhood of 80mp for Sony's "high resolution studio body" (at least, that's how they originally marketed the R series), but I didn't expect a resolution bump as they need to get more usage out of that sensor. I expect the next gen they'll move up.
The disappointment would be no focus-stacking, I really wanted to finally see that on this body and with all the talk of new processors I was hoping it'd finally arrive. I'd have also much preferred they figure out a way to use CFE type B though. AF improvements I guess are nice...I'd never complain about getting better, more accurate/fast AF...but they're lost on me as I don't really shoot sports/wildlife in which case I'd just buy an A1 or A9/II if I did. Micro HDMI and only 4k60 are meh as well.
With the way their prices have been going I expect this will be close to $4000, which again makes the A1 seem more appealing if so.
I got in on the first wave of A1's and have enjoyed it ever since. It is probably overkill for me though, since I don't shoot sports/wildlife. For the A7RV I was hoping for focus-stacking, fast sensor readout, maybe a small bump in res.....since it doesn't appear to have any of that (although the AI AF sounds intriguing), I'll continue to happily shoot with my A1.
You can't have everything....where would you put it?
