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TTartisan Leica M to Sony E adapter with 6-bit code

  
 
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p.1 #1 · TTartisan Leica M to Sony E adapter with 6-bit code


TTartisan to announce a new M-E lens adapter able to transmit 6-bit code to the camera. I'm not quite sure how it works but from the pictures, it looks like the adapter has a 6-bit code scanner and a focal length dial.

Currently this is only possible when using the Leica M to SL adapter so this could be exciting news to Sony shooters shooting with coded M-lenses.

More info at Photo Rumors:
https://photorumors.com/2022/04/15/ttartisan-to-announce-a-new-m-e-lens-adapter/



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Apr 15, 2022 at 09:41 PM
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p.1 #2 · TTartisan Leica M to Sony E adapter with 6-bit code


I wonder if this infringes on any Leica patents around the 6-bit coding system? It's notable that none of the non-Chinese lens manufacturers selling M mount lenses also provide the 6-bit cutouts on the lens mounts for you to fill with paint. Both 7A M-mount lenses I own are 6-bit coded...

Maybe the dial is there for uncoded lenses? Normally the 6-bit code would provide the focal length and the dial would be redundant.



Apr 15, 2022 at 09:54 PM
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p.1 #3 · TTartisan Leica M to Sony E adapter with 6-bit code


rscheffler wrote:
I wonder if this infringes on any Leica patents around the 6-bit coding system? It's notable that none of the non-Chinese lens manufacturers selling M mount lenses also provide the 6-bit cutouts on the lens mounts for you to fill with paint. Both 7A M-mount lenses I own are 6-bit coded...

Maybe the dial is there for uncoded lenses? Normally the 6-bit code would provide the focal length and the dial would be redundant.


That's a great point. The FL dial could add the focal length info to the EXIF for non-coded lenses.



Apr 15, 2022 at 10:54 PM
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p.1 #4 · TTartisan Leica M to Sony E adapter with 6-bit code


So what exactly would this add technically speaking? Focus peaking support, accurate IBIS settings and exif info?


Apr 19, 2022 at 04:43 AM
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p.1 #5 · TTartisan Leica M to Sony E adapter with 6-bit code


Have been using a pre production sample which didn't come with a wheel to set focal length for uncoded lenses
and also featured a narrower opening that lead to some vignetting issues with quite a few lenses.
Electronics already worked well, focal length is being passed on to IBIS.

Looking very much forward to this one.



Apr 19, 2022 at 05:39 AM
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p.1 #6 · TTartisan Leica M to Sony E adapter with 6-bit code


BastianK wrote:
Have been using a pre production sample which didn't come with a wheel to set focal length for uncoded lenses
and also featured a narrower opening that lead to some vignetting issues with quite a few lenses.
Electronics already worked well, focal length is being passed on to IBIS.

Looking very much forward to this one.


I will definitely try one when available!



Apr 19, 2022 at 09:11 AM
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p.1 #7 · TTartisan Leica M to Sony E adapter with 6-bit code


I received one of the final production models this week.



There are some minor quirks but generally it works well.
The wheel on the adapter allows one to set 28/35/50/75/90/135mm, so the typical Leica M focal lengths.
The opening is much bigger compared to the pre production sample I had, the only
lens where I still have additional vignetting is the rather obscure MS-Optics 135mm 2.4.
VM 75mm 1.5 / Leica 90mm 2.0 / SY 50mm 1.1 / MS 50mm 1.0 (which are my M-lenses with the biggest entrance pupil) all work without any issues.

I will have an article ready when it is officially released, currently just waiting on an update when that will be.



May 07, 2022 at 11:53 AM
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p.1 #8 · TTartisan Leica M to Sony E adapter with 6-bit code


BastianK wrote:
I received one of the final production models this week.

https://phillipreeve.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/TTArtisan_leica_m_sony_e_6_bit_adapter_title.jpg

There are some minor quirks but generally it works well.
The wheel on the adapter allows one to set 28/35/50/75/90/135mm, so the typical Leica M focal lengths.
The opening is much bigger compared to the pre production sample I had, the only
lens where I still have additional vignetting is the rather obscure MS-Optics 135mm 2.4.
VM 75mm 1.5 / Leica 90mm 2.0 / SY 50mm 1.1 / MS 50mm 1.0 (which are my M-lenses with the biggest entrance pupil) all work without any issues.

I will have an article ready when it is officially released,
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Looking forward to your article Bastian. Did you check if the 6-bit code is translated to the EXIF when using Leica or 6-bit coded Voigtlander lenses?



May 07, 2022 at 12:20 PM
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p.1 #9 · TTartisan Leica M to Sony E adapter with 6-bit code


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Did you check if the 6-bit code is translated to the EXIF when using Leica or 6-bit coded Voigtlander lenses?

Yes, lens name will always be "Leica M <focal length> <max. aperture>" for those.
So no lens names like Summicron or sth. like that.



May 07, 2022 at 12:42 PM
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p.1 #10 · TTartisan Leica M to Sony E adapter with 6-bit code


If the lens is not a focal length that is included in the options from the dial, how would the focal length be handled? Would the adapter FL value would overide manual FL value set in the IBIS settings in the camera menu?


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p.1 #11 · TTartisan Leica M to Sony E adapter with 6-bit code


Abuttolph wrote:
If the lens is not a focal length that is included in the options from the dial, how would the focal length be handled? Would the adapter FL value would overide manual FL value set in the IBIS settings in the camera menu?

1st priority: 6-bit code
2nd priority: wheel

So yes, whatever you set on the wheel will be passed on to the camera.
In camera you can still override that, but I can think of exactly zero cases where that would make sense
(except for some Samyang lens with a wonky firmware where the manual said you better use the override function).



May 07, 2022 at 01:06 PM
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p.1 #12 · TTartisan Leica M to Sony E adapter with 6-bit code


Adapter can be ordered starting tomorrow (May 20th) for $72, so I just published my short article:
https://phillipreeve.net/blog/ttartisan-leica-m-to-e-6-bit-adapter-product-of-the-year/



May 19, 2022 at 06:21 AM
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p.1 #13 · TTartisan Leica M to Sony E adapter with 6-bit code


BastianK wrote:
Adapter can be ordered starting tomorrow (May 20th) for $72, so I just published my short article:
https://phillipreeve.net/blog/ttartisan-leica-m-to-e-6-bit-adapter-product-of-the-year/


Thanks for this quick reaction!

What I don't understand is your sentence:

"you can use the aperture wheel on the camera again to have any aperture value between f/1.0 and f/16 written in the exif data"

What does this mean for daily use?
Is writing the aperture values to EXIF only possible for lenses without 6-Bit code?



May 19, 2022 at 01:01 PM
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EVIL_guy wrote:
Thanks for this quick reaction!

What I don't understand is your sentence:

"you can use the aperture wheel on the camera again to have any aperture value between f/1.0 and f/16 written in the exif data"

What does this mean for daily use?
Is writing the aperture values to EXIF only possible for lenses without 6-Bit code?

No, it is also possible with 6-bit coded lenses.
It helps you to keep track of what apertures you used, if you care.



May 19, 2022 at 01:16 PM
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p.1 #15 · TTartisan Leica M to Sony E adapter with 6-bit code


BastianK wrote:
Adapter can be ordered starting tomorrow (May 20th) for $72, so I just published my short article:
https://phillipreeve.net/blog/ttartisan-leica-m-to-e-6-bit-adapter-product-of-the-year/


"You can use the aperture wheel on the camera to change the aperture value which will be written in the exif data. So if you want to track at which aperture values you shot this is a handy feature."

This is really cool as well.

So, the only difference when using 6-bit coded lenses is that the FL is added to EXIF automatically whereas with non-6-bit one must use the adapter's FL wheel to set it manually. Aperture is always manual, regardless if the lens is 6-bit coded or not.



May 19, 2022 at 02:43 PM
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p.1 #16 · TTartisan Leica M to Sony E adapter with 6-bit code


I wish the adapter was more affordable though!





screenshot from their website today




May 19, 2022 at 02:48 PM
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p.1 #17 · TTartisan Leica M to Sony E adapter with 6-bit code


Fred Miranda wrote:
"You can use the aperture wheel on the camera to change the aperture value which will be written in the exif data. So if you want to track at which aperture values you shot this is a handy feature."

This is really cool as well.

So, the only difference when using 6-bit coded lenses is that the FL is added to EXIF automatically whereas with non-6-bit one must use the adapter's FL wheel to set it manually. Aperture is always manual, regardless if the lens is 6-bit coded or not.

The other difference is the maximum aperture the lens is registered as.
For non 6-bit coded lenses it is always f/1.0 whereas it is the correct maximum aperture value for the coded ones.

Price will be $72 when it is live tomorrow, which I consider to be quite reasonable.



May 19, 2022 at 03:30 PM
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p.1 #18 · TTartisan Leica M to Sony E adapter with 6-bit code


I wish this existed in non M mounts but I’m glad to see it exists. Manually setting ibis was always annoying for manual lenses


May 19, 2022 at 04:09 PM
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p.1 #19 · TTartisan Leica M to Sony E adapter with 6-bit code


BastianK wrote:
The other difference is the maximum aperture the lens is registered as.
For non 6-bit coded lenses it is always f/1.0 whereas it is the correct maximum aperture value for the coded ones.

Price will be $72 when it is live tomorrow, which I consider to be quite reasonable.


I have been waiting for this so I will grab one tomorrow. Thanks for the heads-up.



May 19, 2022 at 04:34 PM
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p.1 #20 · TTartisan Leica M to Sony E adapter with 6-bit code


To those that ordered one and will hopefully receive it soon it would be great if you could share your experiences with camera and lens compatibilties,
especially when it comes to the M-mount lenses with big entrance pupil (e.g. 90mm 1.25) and more 6-bit codes.



May 20, 2022 at 07:19 AM
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