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p.11 #1 · Hasselblad X2D


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That totally depends if you are talking context horizontally or vertically. You will get opposite answers depending on what you choose. The numbers I provided are accurate, but they assume you are using the same aspect ratio for both cameras. That means you are cropping the full frame 35mm to 4 X 3 or 4 X 5 and personally I do that with the majority of my shots on full frame 35mm. I really dislike the 3 X 2 aspect ratio especially in portrait mode, so I don't use it very often at all. So for me the right
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The "correct values" are attached below.

Unlike the X1D-II there are no internal cropping option built into the X2D.







Sensor comparison (Z9 used as reference)




Sep 20, 2022 at 08:53 AM
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p.11 #2 · Hasselblad X2D


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AT 3:2 you'd still have a 43.9x29.3mm sensor and nearly 90MP. Quite close, actually to the original 43.9x 32.9mm and 102MP.

The visual benefits/changes are huge. The actual crop is small.

It's a bigger crop to go from 3:2 to 4:3 than the other way around.

Gordon


Thanks for that. For some reason I was stuck on thinking about 35mm crop mode on the GFX instead of a 3:2 crop from the full width.



Sep 20, 2022 at 02:57 PM
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p.11 #3 · Hasselblad X2D


How are users with the X2D in hand seeing battery life in terms of hours of mixed shooting and standby? Curious how long you're able to go with the camera on and ready to shoot and how the battery is performing.


Sep 20, 2022 at 03:51 PM
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p.11 #4 · Hasselblad X2D


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For me, a 30 and a 43 (FF-equivalent FL) is too close. I prefer at least a 70-80% spread. With my M cameras, for example, I never carried a 35 and 50 together. For a 2 lens kit, I've always preferred 35/75 and for a 3 lens kit it was 28/50/90.

I bought the 38V as my first lens, and my second lens will likely be the 90V or 80. Next will be a wide. If I had as many XCD lenses as Gordon I might purchase both, but as I am rebuilding my Hassy kit from scratch I would
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Agreed! 100%

The zoom is a given, unless you really can't stand the weight. It's fabulous on the X2D. I'd choose the 90V first over the 80. The 80 is still *not fast*. It's OK and has seen an improvement but it's no close to the 55, and I assume the new 90V. And 2.5 is 2/3 of a stop off 1.9. I think the 80 has gone from frustrating to usable in studio and for static subjects but the 90 will be more versatile.

The reason I have all the lenses is that Hasselblad (and Fujifilm), haven't gotten the lens spread right and I'm constantly swapping around to try and get a three lens kit I can settle on. The 30/65/135 was really close but large for a three prime lit. So, I tended to carry the 45 & 90 even though I'm mostly a *50mm* guy.

I got both the new lenses because i wasn't sure about which would suit me more. I knew I wanted to have the faster AF but both focal lengths are not something I've shot with much. You're right. They're too close.

Although the 38V is slightly smaller and the AF is slightly faster I've settled on the 55V as my single lens starter. For me, I have adapted to it really quickly. It feels natural. I never tried a 43mm Pentax and the 40's I tried weren't quite right but 55mm on the X2D works. I don't know why but it is what it is. I was a bit worried I wouldn't gel with either of them. Not sure if I'll keep the 38 yet.

What I want from HB is a 28mmV and a 110mmV to work with the 55. For now I'll settle for the 30, 55V and 90V although the spread is closer than I'd like. I may just take the zoom out and nothing else??

Over time I see many of the XCD lenses being upgraded to the XCD-V series. But if it were me we'd get:

26-28V prime. It's the biggest hole in the line up and half way between the 55 and 21.

110-120V prime. perhaps with macro.

80-160 zoom.

20-35 zoom.

250-300mm that works with the TC. Round out the kit.

I'll keep what I have for now because I don't know what's coming but a few lenses are now back on the shelf. Some of which are favourites on the X1D. The 45, 65 and 90 mainly. The 45P may see some use on the 907X, I'm keeping. With the firmware upgrade for the body the new lenses are now a lot of fun on it as well. You can now have aperture on the lens and either EV comp or shutter on the camera. So it might be replaced by the new lenses as well. The 38V and 90V would be a cool walk around on the 907x.

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Sep 20, 2022 at 04:52 PM
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p.11 #5 · Hasselblad X2D


ArchnemeSwiss wrote:
How are users with the X2D in hand seeing battery life in terms of hours of mixed shooting and standby? Curious how long you're able to go with the camera on and ready to shoot and how the battery is performing.


Nothing conclusive but certainly no worse than the x1DII. Not quite up to the GFX either. You'll want at least one spare. Also the camera can be powered externally. From your laptop when tethered or a battery pack.

I'm up to about 300 shots (mostly of my front wall) and the battery is close to needing a charge. Not a proper real world test. Sorry. Will update when I have something better.

Gordon



Sep 20, 2022 at 05:01 PM
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p.11 #6 · Hasselblad X2D


flash wrote:
Nothing conclusive but certainly no worse than the x1DII. Not quite up to the GFX either. You'll want at least one spare. Also the camera can be powered externally. From your laptop when tethered or a battery pack.

I'm up to about 300 shots (mostly of my front wall) and the battery is close to needing a charge. Not a proper real world test. Sorry. Will update when I have something better.

Gordon


X2D's CIPA battery number is 420 shots. GFX100S's CIPA number varies between 460 and 320 shots, depending on performance mode (BOOST/NORMAL) and whether LCD or EVF was used.



Sep 20, 2022 at 05:21 PM
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p.11 #7 · Hasselblad X2D


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I'll keep what I have for now because I don't know what's coming but a few lenses are now back on the shelf. Some of which are favourites on the X1D. The 45, 65 and 90 mainly. The 45P may see some use on the 907X, I'm keeping. With the firmware upgrade for the body the new lenses are now a lot of fun on it as well. You can now have aperture on the lens and either EV comp or shutter on the camera. So it might be replaced by the new lenses as well. The 38V and 90V
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I'm planning on keeping the 907x as well. I had it listed on here for 3-4 weeks and got lucky that it never sold. I had never thought about how big a deal the aperture ring on the new lenses would be for the 907x. I've got both the 38V / 55V on order.. I'm excited to turn the 907x into an all digital "SWC" with the 38V.



Sep 20, 2022 at 05:53 PM
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p.11 #8 · Hasselblad X2D


SrMi wrote:
X2D's CIPA battery number is 420 shots. GFX100S's CIPA number varies between 460 and 320 shots, depending on performance mode (BOOST/NORMAL) and whether LCD or EVF was used.


I think that'd be close to what I'm seeing. I had a round 25% left at ~300 shots.

Gordon



Sep 20, 2022 at 06:10 PM
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p.11 #9 · Hasselblad X2D


BrandonSi wrote:
I'm planning on keeping the 907x as well. I had it listed on here for 3-4 weeks and got lucky that it never sold. I had never thought about how big a deal the aperture ring on the new lenses would be for the 907x. I've got both the 38V / 55V on order.. I'm excited to turn the 907x into an all digital "SWC" with the 38V.


Nor do I until I stuck the 38V on the 907x to see whether the update worked. Followed quickly by an "ooooh this is cool!". Completely transforms the camera, IMHO.

Gordon



Sep 20, 2022 at 06:12 PM
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p.11 #10 · Hasselblad X2D


BrandonSi wrote:
I'm planning on keeping the 907x as well. I had it listed on here for 3-4 weeks and got lucky that it never sold. I had never thought about how big a deal the aperture ring on the new lenses would be for the 907x. I've got both the 38V / 55V on order.. I'm excited to turn the 907x into an all digital "SWC" with the 38V.


I think that you need the 21mm lens on 907x to replicate the 38mm on SWC.



Sep 20, 2022 at 06:54 PM
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p.11 #11 · Hasselblad X2D


SrMi wrote:
I think that you need the 21mm lens on 907x to replicate the 38mm on SWC.


Probably closer to a 27mm I think.. but point taken. I was just referring more to recreating the physical styling and having a little chunker of a body with stubby lens then accurately reproducing the field of view of an SWC.









Courtesy of Mr Rockwell..




Sep 20, 2022 at 06:59 PM
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p.11 #12 · Hasselblad X2D


BrandonSi wrote:
Probably closer to a 27mm I think.. but point taken. I was just referring more to recreating the physical styling and having a little chunker of a body with stubby lens then accurately reproducing the field of view of an SWC.



The vertical angle of view of the SWC's 38mm is 72 degrees.
When shooting 907x in 1:1 crop, the vertical angle of view with 21mm is 75 degrees. So, it should be a bit wider than 21mm.

So, yeah, the camera look would be closer with the 38mm lens , but the shooting experience would be closer with the 21mm.




Sep 20, 2022 at 07:27 PM
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p.11 #13 · Hasselblad X2D


flash wrote:
Agreed! 100%

The zoom is a given, unless you really can't stand the weight. It's fabulous on the X2D. I'd choose the 90V first over the 80. The 80 is still *not fast*. It's OK and has seen an improvement but it's no close to the 55, and I assume the new 90V. And 2.5 is 2/3 of a stop off 1.9. I think the 80 has gone from frustrating to usable in studio and for static subjects but the 90 will be more versatile.

The reason I have all the lenses is that Hasselblad (and Fujifilm), haven't gotten the lens spread
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Hmm... your comment on the 80's AF speed is a bit sobering. I loved the rendering when I had it but wasn't really a fan of it's weight, especially when it rocked the camera back and forth as it focused. The 90V is currently my first choice but I find a bit too long. Wish they made a 75V instead. That would have been perfect with the 38.

Or I might pick up the 55 and choose between the 38 and 55 for each outing. One camera, one lens. That may end up being more liberating.



Sep 21, 2022 at 03:56 AM
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p.11 #14 · Hasselblad X2D


flash wrote:
It's already been reported that face/eye detect is coming in an update.
Gordon


Matt Granger on a recent review contacted Hasselblad directly and they responded that a firmware update with those is NOT coming. It was just speculation from a bunch of people that made its way as though it was officially announced by Hasselblad.

Edit: Matt Granger not Grier

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Sep 21, 2022 at 08:44 AM
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p.11 #15 · Hasselblad X2D


malotru007 wrote:
Matt Grier on a recent review contacted Hasselblad directly and they responded that a firmware update with those is NOT coming. It was just speculation from a bunch of people that made its way as though it was officially announced by Hasselblad.


I don't think that's quite correct. Matt Granger reported that Hasselblad's response was that they never said anything about Continuous / Eye AF and a future firmware update. I don't think they explicitly called it out as never happening.. Subtle difference.



Sep 21, 2022 at 08:50 AM
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p.11 #16 · Hasselblad X2D


BrandonSi wrote:
I don't think that's quite correct. Matt Granger reported that Hasselblad's response was that they never said anything about Continuous / Eye AF and a future firmware update. I don't think they explicitly called it out as never happening.. Subtle difference.


It is not coming in the near future. The way people were talking, it was coming in a couple of months. I said Hasselblad had said it's NOT coming, never said that they they mentioned NEVER. Subtle difference...



Sep 21, 2022 at 09:46 AM
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p.11 #17 · Hasselblad X2D


malotru007 wrote:
It is not coming in the near future. The way people were talking, it was coming in a couple of months. I said Hasselblad had said it's NOT coming, never said that they they mentioned NEVER. Subtle difference...


I'm not sure I'd agree with your difference between the two adverbs (not / never), but that's well outside the topic at hand.

Regardless, I do agree that Eye AF is not coming any time soon, and potentially will never come.



Sep 21, 2022 at 09:53 AM
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p.11 #18 · Hasselblad X2D


malotru007 wrote:
Matt Granger on a recent review contacted Hasselblad directly and they responded that a firmware update with those is NOT coming. It was just speculation from a bunch of people that made its way as though it was officially announced by Hasselblad.

Edit: Matt Granger not Grier


Hasselblad has confirmed that tracking and continuous focus will come in a firmware update next year (YT of Creative Sonders). Other expected features of the firmware update are focus bracketing and crop modes.



Sep 21, 2022 at 02:07 PM
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p.11 #19 · Hasselblad X2D


snappu wrote:
Hmm... your comment on the 80's AF speed is a bit sobering. I loved the rendering when I had it but wasn't really a fan of it's weight, especially when it rocked the camera back and forth as it focused. The 90V is currently my first choice but I find a bit too long. Wish they made a 75V instead. That would have been perfect with the 38.

Or I might pick up the 55 and choose between the 38 and 55 for each outing. One camera, one lens. That may end up being more liberating.


Hopefully I get my 90V early next week, if the information from the supplier regarding stock arrival was accurate. Only then can I say for sure that the 90 is close to the 38 & 55 in AF speed.

Regarding the 80 (and most XCD lenses, for that matter). It does get a bump in AF speed. A small one. But remember that, except for the 120mm, it was probably the slowest focuser of the XCD line up.

What has improved, is AF confidence. Dramatically. Any X1D owner knows that the AF racks back and forward EVERY TIME you touch the AF button. Even if the subject hasn't moved or moved a half inch. That doesn't happen any more. So if you're shooting, say in studio, the Af won't always get in the way. It'll feel pretty snappy. Not XCD-V snappy but MUCH better. I was playing with the slowest Af lens, the 120 macro at min focus distance. Even this lens shot to shot Af was OK, until you needed to go through the focus throw. If you do miss focus you'll see that the older lenses are still not lightning. But mostly from shot to shot they'll be OK.

I hope that makes sense. There's quite a lot going on with the AF and the old lenses. Minimum to infinity AF speeds are a different thing to shot to shot focusing and each lens acts a little differently on the X2D. I'm still revising my thoughts, even after a week of having the camera.

Gordon

p.s. I should be providing images by now but I've done my lower back and basically can't leave the house. Never done this before and I don't like it... Seeing an Ostio mid next week. Until then it's pics of my walls and garden.



Sep 21, 2022 at 05:00 PM
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p.11 #20 · Hasselblad X2D


malotru007 wrote:
Matt Granger on a recent review contacted Hasselblad directly and they responded that a firmware update with those is NOT coming. It was just speculation from a bunch of people that made its way as though it was officially announced by Hasselblad.

Edit: Matt Granger not Grier


Yes. I saw that. that's why I said reported, not confirmed. What we haven't got is a direct statement from Hasselblad. I haven't considered Matt Granger a reliable source for years. He was really good when he was a Nikon specialist (That Nikon Guy). Not so much as a general camera reviewer. I think he's trying to be honest so I do take his views into consideration but in a larger pool of opinions. My comment was based on a report by a YouTube video who had the camera in hand prior to release. Karl Taylor has been using the camera for a bit and seems closer to the development team so I gave his comment more weight than Granger.

There's a few conflicting things being said.

For example, a customer service rep replied to an enquiry and stated that the X2D has no weather sealing. This is from a HB employee. Facebook went into melt down, of course. Later it was clarified that what's actually happening is that HB make no claims regarding weather sealing and do not provide an IP rating. They didn't for the X1D either. The X2D has gaskets on all the doors and lenses. The original X1D showed diagrams where the buttons and rear screen had gaskets. SO the X1d and X2D do have weather sealing. Just HB won't commit to how much weather it can take. Unlike the 907x, which actually is missing weather sealing between the body and back....

I suppose we'll see if/when HB do start releasing firmware updates. Until then they're all just rumors.

Gordon



Sep 21, 2022 at 05:19 PM
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