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p.1 #1 · Hasselblad X2D


The first rumors (and image) are starting to appear:
https://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/first-leaked-image-of-the-hasselblad-x2d/


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Update: Now available for pre-order:


Hasselblad X2D 100C Medium Format Mirrorless Camera: ($8,199)

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1725356-REG/hasselblad_cp_hb_00000723_01_x2d_100c_medium_format.html


B&H Explora article:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/photography/news/introducing-the-hasselblad-x2d-100c-new-medium-format-lenses



Mar 03, 2022 at 11:41 AM
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p.1 #2 · Hasselblad X2D


SlowDriver wrote:
The first rumors (and image) are starting to appear:
https://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/first-leaked-image-of-the-hasselblad-x2d/


I've been checking out this rumor too. This particular image looks strange to me, but who knows the circumstances. Someone in the comments posted something about the marking on the right side of the hot shoe indicating evidence of the same sensor used in the Fujifilm GFX100S. That mark seems odd to me too. But interesting.



Mar 03, 2022 at 11:59 AM
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p.1 #3 · Hasselblad X2D


It kind of looks photoshopped... The X1D II does not say 50c on the hot shoe either... that being said all rumors up till now did confirm a 100MP sensor...


Mar 03, 2022 at 12:03 PM
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p.1 #4 · Hasselblad X2D


With focal plane shutter, I am in. With IBIS, even better. I don’t need 100M TBH. It is such a overkill. I wish all manufacture have Leica m11 multi resolution implementation.


Mar 03, 2022 at 02:54 PM
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p.1 #5 · Hasselblad X2D


Personally I don't need the focal plane shutter as I have zero interest in adapting lenses. I haven't seen a single situation where an adapted lens is better than the native glass. And I already have a GFX100S. I don't see how they'd fit one anyway.

IBIS would be extremely useful. I'm currently good to about 1/2F on the 50MP sensor and about 1/f on my GFX. The X1D is a camera that begs to be used hand held due to it's brilliant design. Since the lenses are generally slower IBIS would really expand the shooting envelope.

The images suggest the rear screen has been pushed out. Some say a flippy screen. I hope it's space for an IBIS unit.

Don't know about the top LCD. I never missed it on the X1D. Likely we get some sort of PDAF but can the lenses handle it?

I'm really looking forward to seeing how those brilliant lenses do with 100MP behind them. Things like square and XPan formats will also become far more useful.

Probably have to sell both kidneys to buy one though. And it'll only be available 9 months after release.

Gordon



Mar 03, 2022 at 03:26 PM
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p.1 #6 · Hasselblad X2D


SlowDriver wrote:
It kind of looks photoshopped... The X1D II does not say 50c on the hot shoe either... that being said all rumors up till now did confirm a 100MP sensor...


Kind of? Check out the area between the top LCD and the shutter release.



Mar 03, 2022 at 04:03 PM
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p.1 #7 · Hasselblad X2D


That picture looks more MSPaint-ed than photoshopped.


Mar 03, 2022 at 05:12 PM
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p.1 #8 · Hasselblad X2D


Surprising, I would have figured they've given up at this point.

If they add focal plane shutter and IBIS they could get somewhat competitive ... but I'm not holding my breath.

And frankly even if they do that the lenses are still not where Fujifilm is (lower price, more light, more choices).

The main advantage of the 100 Megapixel sensor isnt the higher resolution, but the phase autofocus.

And yes that image was edited, its not clear to me why.



freaklikeme wrote:
Kind of? Check out the area between the top LCD and the shutter release.


Also in front of the viewfinder.



Mar 03, 2022 at 07:38 PM
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p.1 #9 · Hasselblad X2D


Sauseschritt wrote:
The main advantage of the 100 Megapixel sensor isnt the higher resolution, but the phase autofocus.


Also a lot less aliasing than the original 50R/50S sensor, and BSI sensor plays nicer with some kinds of lenses.



Mar 03, 2022 at 08:37 PM
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p.1 #10 · Hasselblad X2D


flash wrote:
Probably have to sell both kidneys to buy one though. And it'll only be available 9 months after release.

Gordon


Plenty of time to grow that third kidney.



Mar 04, 2022 at 01:02 PM
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p.1 #11 · Hasselblad X2D


zhangyue wrote:
With focal plane shutter, I am in. With IBIS, even better.


Even better would be an e-shutter with a readout of 1/125 or faster. I assume Hasselblad will eventually go that direction vs. adding a focal plane shutter.



Mar 04, 2022 at 04:15 PM
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p.1 #12 · Hasselblad X2D


grahamgibson wrote:
Even better would be an e-shutter with a readout of 1/125 or faster. I assume Hasselblad will eventually go that direction vs. adding a focal plane shutter.


Yep but that is not possible Having said that, GFX 50SII or 100S really meet both, just ergo and build leave a lot to be desired. X1Dx is flawless in that regard, especially for flip LCD shown in here. I dont personally enjoy using focus by wire lenses and dont like their AF tech that is the only reason I need adaptability.



Mar 04, 2022 at 05:10 PM
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p.1 #13 · Hasselblad X2D


if this does not have phase detect AF i'll stick with the X1D II and i will join Oldwino to grow a third kidney for an 80mm f1.9 instead.


Mar 05, 2022 at 12:00 PM
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p.1 #14 · Hasselblad X2D


dalegaspi wrote:
if this does not have phase detect AF i'll stick with the X1D II and i will join Oldwino to grow a third kidney for an 80mm f1.9 instead.


The 80 1.9 is one of my favourite lenses of all time. Just sensational.

Gordon



Mar 05, 2022 at 03:50 PM
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p.1 #15 · Hasselblad X2D


If they get much faster focusing and operations, an f2.4 or faster 35mm and other (full frame equivalent lenses), I'd consider the system. As of right now, to me it still feels underdeveloped.


Mar 09, 2022 at 09:44 PM
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p.1 #16 · Hasselblad X2D


Roman.A wrote:
If they get much faster focusing and operations, an f2.4 or faster 35mm and other (full frame equivalent lenses), I'd consider the system. As of right now, to me it still feels underdeveloped.


I'm not a *35mm* guy but I agree that a fast 40-45mm would be good for the system. It'd compliment the 80mm 1.9 nicely as well. They also need a wide and long zoom to match the stunning 35-75. A 20-35 and a 75-150 would do it.

The X1D system does have some really unique benifits as a system, especially if you like flash or long exposures. Plus by far the best menus and ergonomics on the market today. The cameras definitely have a X factor when you use them, regardless of the slow AF.

Gordon




Mar 10, 2022 at 04:07 PM
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p.1 #17 · Hasselblad X2D


I would love a fast 45mm but as there already are 2 45mm lenses I will take fast 35mm as well... ... which would also narrow the gap between 30mm and 45mm.


Mar 10, 2022 at 07:17 PM
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p.1 #18 · Hasselblad X2D


Maybe people who actually own or have some real hands on experience with these systems can speak more on this subject, but to me it feels like Fujifilm is pushing the digital MF space (at least, small MF) further than Hasselblad is. Are there really many advantages to the Hasselblad system apart from the good looking industrial design and the leaf shutter for studio work?


Mar 10, 2022 at 07:26 PM
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p.1 #19 · Hasselblad X2D


Fuji definitely has pushed the envelope in this format size, both in continual technical innovation and aggressive pricing. They are trying to squeeze the much smaller Hasselblad out of the market. Hasselblad has been slow (very slow) to respond.
I think, at best, Hasselblad will become a sort of Leica for MF, producing very nice niche products for those who want "the best".
Or, they will just exit the scene.



Mar 11, 2022 at 12:28 PM
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p.1 #20 · Hasselblad X2D


Gusty181 wrote:
Maybe people who actually own or have some real hands on experience with these systems can speak more on this subject, but to me it feels like Fujifilm is pushing the digital MF space (at least, small MF) further than Hasselblad is. Are there really many advantages to the Hasselblad system apart from the good looking industrial design and the leaf shutter for studio work?


I shoot multiple mini MF systems (HB, Fuji, Leica and Pentax) and have to partially agree. Fujifilm seem like the only one moving forward in this space. The other three have stagnated or come to a complete stop, which is a shame becaue they all have merit.

As to what the X1d/907x do better than Fuji....

1. The ergonomics are vastly better. they don't just look good. They're design masterpieces.
2. The menus are VASTLY superior.
3. Leaf shutters.
4. The lenses are slightly better. A bit more accutance and a bit less CA. The weakest lens is the original 45mm and it's merely wonderful. The zoom is the best zoom I've ever used and the 80mm might be the best short portrait lens of all time.
5. If you shoot long exposures then the X1D has no equal. No need for dark frames to a metered hour long exposure with a programable timer remote release. And it let's you know how long the exposure has left.
6. Inbuilt GPS
7. Better colours. The HB colour science is unmatched. Fuji colours are fantastic. HB's are better.

I think on a tripod the X1D is a better camera, even though it has no flippy screen. The differences in the files are subtle but obvious between the Fuji and HB.

My GFX100S is my main system because of its flexibility and adaptability. And it's definitely the system I'd recommend to those going up a sensor size and those that print bigger than A3. The results are incredible. It has some zooms and fast lenses. IBIS and flippy screens. Adapts my Canon TS lenses well (as does the X1D) etc etc. When the 20-35 arrives it'll be fairly complete (although why there's a big gap in the zooms range no matter how you combine lenses is beyond me...) up to about 350mm (250+1.4x). In 99% of places you can shoot it like a big DSLR from Canikon with more... The 110mm is magic.

But *if* Hasselblad can get it together and actually get an X2D out the door with PDAF and IBIS then I'll switch back full time. There's *something* about the files that Fuji can't quite match. Until then I'll bounce between my M11 and 907/X1DII as my daily carry and use the Fuji when I'm serious.

Gordon



Mar 11, 2022 at 04:17 PM
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